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Posted: 2/3/2006 8:47:18 AM EDT
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What you all are looking at is a high standard police shotgun. It is a 12 gauge high brass only beast. it is kinda old made in the 70's the model number is 10A and is very shot and handi as a HD shotgun
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 12:59:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 1:00:21 PM EDT
what the hell is that thing. who makes that thing?
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 1:08:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 1:25:20 PM EDT
You lose!Had
MB
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 1:58:19 PM EDT
Sure, I own 2 of them, 10A and 10B.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 7:45:02 AM EDT
I own one.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 11:34:55 AM EDT
I owned a 10-B.

As was often the case with the High Standard bullpup, it was unreliable and even though I was a pro and spent a considerable amount of time working on it, I could never get it to work well enough to trust it.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 12:57:22 PM EDT
Shaft had one of those...
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 1:18:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 5:43:33 PM EDT
I have. In fact, I shot one until it stopped working.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 7:31:44 PM EDT
still pretty cool
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 10:47:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/5/2006 10:48:03 PM EDT by dfariswheel]
Interestingly enough, I saw the beginning of the High Standard Bullpup.

I was visiting in LA in 1967, and just happened to catch the news one night.
They had a report on a Beverly Hills Police detective who had invented a new kind of shotgun for use in raids.
It showed this detective firing an early version he'd built himself, using "I think" a Remington 1100 shotgun.

He was shooting bottles one-handed with the buttplate against the inside of his elbow.

Later, the detective sold the idea to High Standard who finished the development around their "Super-matic" auto shotgun.

It was a good idea, but the weight and bulk, clumsy feel, and price caused most departments to turn it down or only buy a few.
The chronic reliability problems soured serious users quickly and killed it off.
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 5:07:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dfariswheel:
Interestingly enough, I saw the beginning of the High Standard Bullpup.

I was visiting in LA in 1967, and just happened to catch the news one night.
They had a report on a Beverly Hills Police detective who had invented a new kind of shotgun for use in raids.
It showed this detective firing an early version he'd built himself, using "I think" a Remington 1100 shotgun.

He was shooting bottles one-handed with the buttplate against the inside of his elbow.

Later, the detective sold the idea to High Standard who finished the development around their "Super-matic" auto shotgun.

It was a good idea, but the weight and bulk, clumsy feel, and price caused most departments to turn it down or only buy a few.
The chronic reliability problems soured serious users quickly and killed it off.



IIRC it was a Remington M58 auto. The 1100 has the recoil spring in the stock, making a bullpup conversion impossible. The Sportsman 58 has it up front around the mag tube.

A modern day version of the HS bullpup could be done using the Mossberg 5500/9200 series of shotguns since they also have the recoil spring around the mag tube. But since Mossberg doesn't seem to be able to keep an auto in production I doubt anybody would spend the time/effort.

A Saiga 12g or 20g bullpup would kick ass but it would have to be a domestic conversion. I think the 20g would be the way to go myself.
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