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Posted: 2/1/2006 1:57:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 7:15:34 AM EDT by usmc5593]
anyone every used a Stoeger M2000?? benelli bought them out and now they also have a inerta driven sys like the one that made benelli so fast! i need a 3-gun semi-auto for competition but i don't want to spend a ton a money! which model would be the best value (over all)?

thx
usmc5593
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:47:17 AM EDT
I have a stoeger m2000 that i use for waterfowl and turkey hunting. It has seen many rainy, snowy and single digit days all without a hiccup.

My waterfowl buddy had his 1187 remmy that jams constantly in 2 deg weather and his 870 keeps trying to double feed some how(mostly his fault though).

I reccommend this shotgun because it works all the time and it is cheaper than the rest.


Link Posted: 2/2/2006 11:58:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2006 12:00:45 PM EDT by TruePunisher]
I have the model 2000. It is a hunting gun. It has a long BBL and a normal shot tube. Not the best for 3-Gun. I like the gun, and I know of only one person that has had a problem with the Model 2000.

BTW, the Model 2000 has always had the inerta system and it does not use the same system as the benelli guns it is slightly different. Also, the Winchester SX2 is the fastest clocked shotgun the last time I heard, something like 5 shots in .52 sec.

I like my SX2 and my 1100, both can be found used for a good price and have after market parts avalable.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 1:42:38 PM EDT
Thx for the info! I've heard about the same. I thought it would be a good choice for 3-gun due to the price and the reliability it isn't gonna shoot like a benelli but then again it isn't a 1000.00 gun, lol
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 1:45:36 PM EDT
does any one know if the Stoeger M2000 has any extended tubes for shells or will they fit other brands? are they equipped to take a side saddle or would i need to just use a velcro side saddle?
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 5:20:04 PM EDT
I don't know of any extended mag tubes or and made to fit shell holders for the 2000 sorry.

90% of people that buy them are just looking to use them for hunting and those added thing just are not very popular with that model of shotgun.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 7:45:24 AM EDT
thx
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:54:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:56:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:08:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 7:08:46 AM EDT by TruePunisher]
If you are looking for more information on a good gun for 3-gun you might want to change the thread name. Not too many people have used the Stoger 2000 so they may not open this thread.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:12:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/9/2006 7:23:33 AM EDT by usmc5593]
OK maybe i can clarify my post. i am interested in the stoeger M2000 due to the inertia sys it has and the things i have heard about it. with that being said, i shoot 3-gun matches occasionally but not enough to justify buying a 1000.00 benelli or a 1100 that is going to be problematic. i was inquiring if any one thought this would work for that situation and could you find a ext. tube for it?? thx
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:42:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By usmc5593:
a 1100 that is going to be problematic.



Huh? This bit of folklore is getting old. The 1100 is no different than the Benelli in terms of reliability. In fact, several of the guys I shoot 3-gun with are going *back* to the 1100 because they have discovered that the Benelli doesn't provide them with any better reliability, and the 1100 has less felt recoil.

The only advantage I can think of that the Benelli has over the 1100 is a 1 shell capacity difference (given same size mag tube) because of the trick of putting an extra shell on the carrier.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 4:46:25 PM EDT
Benellis kick me in the cheek bone, I do not have this problem with the 1100 so I bought an 1100.

I like the Benelli its a faster shooting shotgun, but I am slow on the trigger anyway, if youre like my buddy can over run the 1100 action then its not a good gun for you if your slow like me and cant catch up its just fine.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 9:54:40 PM EDT
thx for the input. what do ya'll know about having the shotgun's (1100/1187)gas tube "ported" or made biggewr to run light loads??
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 12:06:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By usmc5593:
thx for the input. what do ya'll know about having the shotgun's (1100/1187)gas tube "ported" or made biggewr to run light loads??



+1 Anyone have any good scoop on the Remington 11-87 P models?

Max
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:08:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 4:09:33 PM EDT by MP5_guy]

Originally Posted By usmc5593:
thx for the input. what do ya'll know about having the shotgun's (1100/1187)gas tube "ported" or made biggewr to run light loads??



Generally not required. The exceptions is if you are running something like a JP comp on your 1100/11-87, you will need to hog out the gas ports because the comp bleeds off so much gas just in front of the gas ports. Otherwise, the 11-87 (on the news ones, at least) has a very well-behaved gas regulation system that allows it to run just about anything. My 1100 will also run anything, but I think it gets alittle beat up when shooting heavier loads (full power slugs & buckshot, for exeample).

There is something about the 11-87 and a factory 18" barrel that would require the gas ports to be enlarged. I think it's because the 18" barrel doesn't use the gas regulation system and was intended for used with hotter loads, but maybe someone could explain hat better than me.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 9:26:42 PM EDT
I have a Benelli M4, which if I end up selling, I'll buy an 11-87P.
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 12:03:35 PM EDT
You might want to add the Saiga 12 to your list and see if you get different results
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 9:19:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Bigdog:
You might want to add the Saiga 12 to your list and see if you get different results



yep there is a guy that shoots 3-gun matches with a 12 gage Saiga using 10 round clips ones for slugs and ones for bird shot he let me shoot it during one stage and it was super fast and easy he also has a Jpoint mounted on it

the clips(10rnd) we running about $120
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 3:31:15 PM EDT
At a recent 3-gun match in Tucson, someone was using a copy of a USAS-12. That was quite entertaining. It's a heavy beast of a shotgun, but I would be tempted to get one if they were still available. Ther's something about a 20-shell drum....
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:15:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MP5_guy:
At a recent 3-gun match in Tucson, someone was using a copy of a USAS-12. That was quite entertaining. It's a heavy beast of a shotgun, but I would be tempted to get one if they were still available. Ther's something about a 20-shell drum....



HAHAHAHA.

That is cool, I bet you do not see too many DD's at a 3 gun match.

I always wanted to own a USAS-12 and take it hunting or bird shooting.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:46:29 PM EDT
You cant use drum or detachable magazine fed shotguns where I shoot, only tube mags and you can only start with 8 rounds in the gun, after the buzzer you can do whatever you want.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 7:27:24 PM EDT
I have a Remington Competition Master with Speedfeed pistolgrip stock and forearm set. I had a Benelli M1-S90 but it killed at both ends(heavy recoil) so I sold it. The 1100 CM shoots everything great and kicks a whole lot less so it is my current 3-gun shotgun.
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