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Posted: 11/19/2021 3:10:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boosdady: Really wanted to take on this project. Contacted [email protected] and he's no longer doing Ruger work.  We do them on occasion, but lately we've been swamped with AR work. That combined with being short staffed, some things have to give. That said, they do take quite a bit of work to thread precisely as almost always the barrels are crooked in the receivers. They definitely aren't as straight forward as a rifle barrel. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 3:17:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: We do them on occasion, but lately we've been swamped with AR work. That combined with being short staffed, some things have to give. That said, they do take quite a bit of work to thread precisely as almost always the barrels are crooked in the receivers. They definitely aren't as straight forward as a rifle barrel. Swamped is good Maybe the price needs to adjust up |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 4:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: We do them on occasion, but lately we've been swamped with AR work. That combined with being short staffed, some things have to give. That said, they do take quite a bit of work to thread precisely as almost always the barrels are crooked in the receivers. They definitely aren't as straight forward as a rifle barrel. 
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Posted: 11/19/2021 4:32:56 PM EDT
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I’m surprised none of the Smiths take advantage of the Volquartsen clearance deals and do groups of these things. I assume the integral guys buy them but I don’t know. I’ll always wondered what we’d have if the receiver wasn’t the upper. For $25 a pop you could knock a batch of 10+ out for minimal cost and time.
https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/5398?clearance=1 |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2021 2:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emwen: Thanks to Dave @ dwilsonmfg.com for turning this out to me super fast. When he posted a pic of the one he did for himself a few posts back I knew I wanted it. So I waited until he started taking in Ruger work again and here it is. I'm just waiting for the Volquartsen MK IV accurizing kit to be delivered and a RMR mount from D Lobos. https://i.imgur.com/8r4HkTy.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/feZT6CG.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Q2iMgs5.jpg |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 3:31:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtsnowman: Great looking MKIV! Is that a quietbore form 1 kit? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtsnowman: Originally Posted By emwen: Thanks to Dave @ dwilsonmfg.com for turning this out to me super fast. When he posted a pic of the one he did for himself a few posts back I knew I wanted it. So I waited until he started taking in Ruger work again and here it is. I'm just waiting for the Volquartsen MK IV accurizing kit to be delivered and a RMR mount from D Lobos. https://i.imgur.com/8r4HkTy.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/feZT6CG.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Q2iMgs5.jpg I agree and have the same question? Form1 kit and if so, which one? Thanks |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2021 4:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I’m surprised none of the Smiths take advantage of the Volquartsen clearance deals and do groups of these things. I assume the integral guys buy them but I don’t know. I’ll always wondered what we’d have if the receiver wasn’t the upper. For $25 a pop you could knock a batch of 10+ out for minimal cost and time. https://volquartsen.com/inventory_configurations/5398?clearance=1 3 serialized uppers for $75 total? Holy shit. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/22/2021 11:40:15 PM EDT
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Yes, it’s a Quietbore Form 1 can.
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emwen: Yes, it’s a Quietbore Form 1 can. Have you shot it yet? if so, how does it sound? Any first round pop? Do you have any form 4 cans to compare it to and if so, how does it compare? Thanks |
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2021 4:45:40 PM EDT
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if you trim the grip could this be a pocket carry? they could design a pocket version of this gun with the chamber and receiver mechanism shortened or set even further back from the barrel?
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Posted: 11/25/2021 5:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carbface: if you trim the grip could this be a pocket carry? they could design a pocket version of this gun with the chamber and receiver mechanism shortened or set even further back from the barrel? It's called the Ruger SR-22. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:18:26 PM EDT
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actually, it's this:
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2021 8:21:51 PM EDT
[#13]
could rugers in fact be the best closet self defense gun?
 imagine effortless sub 1 inch groups at 10+ yards on a moving target? why even need 9mm or 45acp when you can drop him with an effortless doubletap at 20 yards? |
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Posted: 11/25/2021 9:16:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/25/2021 10:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carbface: could rugers in fact be the best closet self defense gun? https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/MaddMacs-XBAR-IC-670x446.jpg imagine effortless sub 1 inch groups at 10+ yards on a moving target? why even need 9mm or 45acp when you can drop him with an effortless doubletap at 20 yards? That Ruger is fire but to answer your question, no. I'd rather have a .22 over nothing but even then I'd like more capacity, please. Ruger could take all of my money if they ever figure out how to put 15+ rounds into the MKIV like the TX22 or KelTec P17 from a grip-frame and magazine swap. With the upper being serialized they could just sell grip frames and magazines. In fact, if I worked at Ruger, I'd have designers and engineers working on this right now. |
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Posted: 11/26/2021 2:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: That Ruger is fire but to answer your question, no. I'd rather have a .22 over nothing but even then I'd like more capacity, please. Ruger could take all of my money if they ever figure out how to put 15+ rounds into the MKIV like the TX22 or KelTec P17 from a grip-frame and magazine swap. With the upper being serialized they could just sell grip frames and magazines. In fact, if I worked at Ruger, I'd have designers and engineers working on this right now. That would be nice and while they're at it, I would like a metal (aluminum would be fine) 22/45 frame. I'm a big fan of the MKIV 22/45 but with 15rd mags (metal) and a metal frame, it would be my all time favorite. |
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Posted: 11/26/2021 3:06:20 PM EDT
[#17]
RamLine had you back in the 90's, then Clinton killed it.
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Posted: 11/26/2021 5:35:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: That would be nice and while they're at it, I would like a metal (aluminum would be fine) 22/45 frame. I'm a big fan of the MKIV 22/45 but with 15rd mags (metal) and a metal frame, it would be my all time favorite. Doesn't Volquartsen already do this? |
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Posted: 11/26/2021 6:03:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScottS: Doesn't Volquartsen already do this? Yes but it's as much or more than the whole entry level gun from Ruger unfortunately https://volquartsen.com/products/1109-vc-target-frame |
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Posted: 11/26/2021 7:25:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By airgunner: That would be nice and while they're at it, I would like a metal (aluminum would be fine) 22/45 frame. I'm a big fan of the MKIV 22/45 but with 15rd mags (metal) and a metal frame, it would be my all time favorite. Originally Posted By ScottS: Doesn't Volquartsen already do this? Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Yes but it's as much or more than the whole entry level gun from Ruger unfortunately https://volquartsen.com/products/1109-vc-target-frame Volquartsen doesn't make a MKIV frame but Tandemkross makes an aluminum one. |
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Posted: 11/26/2021 11:31:09 PM EDT
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Yes, I know there are some after market options but I'd still prefer a factory option.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:51:15 PM EDT
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Here's a quick video I did today to show how bad the runout is on some Ruger MK pistols.
 Ruger MK IV runout Another to show that the bore is running true despite how wildly adjusted the chuck is.  Ruger MK IV runout part 2 I do use a special chuck mount that allows both radial and axial adjustment to get these things to run true.  |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:08:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unclemoak: Here's a quick video I did today to show how bad the runout is on some Ruger MK pistols.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP23nuy_c20Another to show that the bore is running true despite how wildly adjusted the chuck is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Q0cDKIUCgI do use a special chuck mount that allows both radial and axial adjustment to get these things to run true. https://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/TBAS-Diagram-Axes-600x377.png Very cool "how it's made" for me to see. Thanks for sharing! |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 6:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Very cool "how it's made" for me to see. Thanks for sharing! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Originally Posted By unclemoak: Here's a quick video I did today to show how bad the runout is on some Ruger MK pistols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP23nuy_c20Another to show that the bore is running true despite how wildly adjusted the chuck is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Q0cDKIUCgI do use a special chuck mount that allows both radial and axial adjustment to get these things to run true. https://ultimatereloader.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/TBAS-Diagram-Axes-600x377.png Very cool "how it's made" for me to see. Thanks for sharing! You That shit’s cool I can hardly pull start a lawn mower some days so I respect folks that do stuff that I can’t even conceptualize |
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Posted: 2/23/2022 9:30:40 PM EDT
[#25]
Bump to keep alive.
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Posted: 2/23/2022 10:32:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2022 10:49:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: 2.5” MaddMacs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/714B61B1-7F52-4EB7-A0A5-FC86E26443F0_jpe-2290904.JPG Ooo I really like the look of the milled-in dot. Thanks for sharing. |
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Posted: 2/24/2022 1:17:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: 2.5” MaddMacs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/714B61B1-7F52-4EB7-A0A5-FC86E26443F0_jpe-2290904.JPG Nice, esp with the milled RDS. Thanks. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2022 9:21:08 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottS: Nice, esp with the milled RDS. Thanks. The MaddMacs mount isn't milled in - but it is very low. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:02:41 PM EDT
[#30]
How does it sound compared to integral
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:04:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Here's my chopped MKIV. I want to say it's a hair under 3" barrel. One of my favorite setups that always goes to the range with me. Can is a Q El Camino. The Volquartesen accurizing kit is also recommended and turns these guns into sweet little shooters. https://i.imgur.com/xMlPJSc.jpg What red dot mount is that |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: I sent a MKIV to Dwilson a few weeks ago. Going 3.5" on it. This will give me MKIVs in 2.75", 3.5", and 4.5" flavors plus the integral Paclite TSS. I'll try and get a group shot when it's back for comparison sake. How is the FRP on the tss |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:17:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2022 1:41:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Messer: The MaddMacs mount isn't milled in - but it is very low. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Messer: Originally Posted By ScottS: Nice, esp with the milled RDS. Thanks. The MaddMacs mount isn't milled in - but it is very low. Let’s talk about that actually  Attached FileIt appears like glock MOS. Milled into the slide Adaptor plate that says “do not remove” Optics screws into plate |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 1:41:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Outrider]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Messer: The MaddMacs mount isn't milled in - but it is very low. You can get the MaddMacs upper in a milled version. To clarify like above, the optic mount is not integral to the upper but the upper is cut lower than a standard MKIV upper to take an optic plate. The end result is an upper with a RDS that sits lower than a standard MKIV. You can also get the XBAR upper with a standard mounting setup.  
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2022 8:23:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: crusherdestroyer]
[#36]
Who is cutting and threading these now? D.Wilson isn't taking customer supplied parts, Adco won't go shorter than 3".
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Posted: 3/5/2022 9:01:35 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: You can get the MaddMacs upper in a milled version. To clarify like above, the optic mount is not integral to the upper but the upper is cut lower than a standard MKIV upper to take an optic plate. The end result is an upper with a RDS that sits lower than a standard MKIV. You can also get the XBAR upper with a standard mounting setup. https://maddmacsprecisiontactical.com/uploads/3/4/3/9/34393413/img-1313_orig.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6rgflZs.jpg Which version sounds the best? |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 10:51:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crusherdestroyer: Who is cutting and threading these now? D.Wilson isn't taking customer supplied parts, Adco won't go shorter than 3". Haven't used them but their pics on instagram look good. https://www.mk3firearms.com/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 11:37:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Haven't used them but their pics on instagram look good. https://www.mk3firearms.com/ Those look really good! Any idea who makes those short 1" cans? |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 11:45:08 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: Those look really good! Any idea who makes those short 1" cans? Not sure which cans you're talking about but the two small .22 silencers I know of are the Bowers Bitty and the TacSol Aeris. Outside of those two I only know of modular silencers like the Erector that can get really small. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 11:49:25 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Not sure which cans you're talking about but the two small .22 silencers I know of are the Bowers Bitty and the TacSol Aeris. Outside of those two I only know of modular silencers like the Erector that can get really small. Thanks, I was referring to the ones in the instagram pics. I'll check those out. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 12:36:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: Thanks, I was referring to the ones in the instagram pics. I'll check those out. Ah. I think it's made by Innovative Arms but I'm not seeing the same model on their website. |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 1:48:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crusherdestroyer: Who is cutting and threading these now? D.Wilson isn't taking customer supplied parts, Adco won't go shorter than 3". I had EastTXhunter/class3 machining cut mine. https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Barrel-Threading-sale-50-PTR-91-Aug-Scar-Sig-MPX-Beretta-21A-FAL-PAPM92/143-1029861/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2022 2:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Ah. I think it's made by Innovative Arms but I'm not seeing the same model on their website. I'll take a look, thanks. |
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Posted: 5/7/2022 10:55:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2022 11:44:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dodge223: New member to the short shush club! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199220/1DAE5E8F-EFE1-4EF1-8729-3CDD4FA02900_jpe-2376070.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199220/82C86730-0C36-4AB0-8E0C-BE7E0C6620E2_jpe-2376072.JPG Very neat |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 1:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dodge223: New member to the short shush club! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199220/1DAE5E8F-EFE1-4EF1-8729-3CDD4FA02900_jpe-2376070.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/199220/82C86730-0C36-4AB0-8E0C-BE7E0C6620E2_jpe-2376072.JPG @Dodge223 what grips are those? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2022 2:39:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: crusherdestroyer]
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Any of y'all running into failur to feed issues with a 2" barrel with suppressor?
im getting failure to feed on 1 out of 5 rounds. not sure if it's a mag issue, a cycling issue, or ammo issue(all I have right now is 36gr mini mag). might not be mags, I have the same problem across 10 mags. Ammo: should I be using 40gr? I can look for different stuff but it's hit or miss if it's on the shelf here. |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 8:45:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dodge223]
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Originally Posted By ZF-1: @Dodge223 what grips are those? @ZF-1 they are custom made grips by LS grips. They are lasered out of cherry, then they dyed and sealed them with black. Originally Posted By crusherdestroyer: Any of y'all running into failur to feed issues with a 2" barrel with suppressor? im getting failure to feed on 1 out of 5 rounds. not sure if it's a mag issue, a cycling issue, or ammo issue(all I have right now is 36gr mini mag). might not be mags, I have the same problem across 10 mags. Ammo: should I be using 40gr? I can look for different stuff but it's hit or miss if it's on the shelf here. @crusherdestroyer Mark 2 or 3? If it’s a three have you removed the LCI? If it’s a 2 have you cleaned it really well? I ended up replacing my recoil spring to get it reliably feeding |
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Posted: 5/9/2022 9:14:33 AM EDT
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