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Posted: 2/8/2018 9:34:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-:
The only correct options for the frame/receiver are either USGI or Caspian, right? Also are there any reference photos with chrome barrels being used? |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 12:11:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Springfield made some complete pistols for 'em too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By -HOOT-:
The only correct options for the frame/receiver are either USGI or Caspian, right? Also are there any reference photos with chrome barrels being used? |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 6:22:16 PM EDT
[#3]
So were springfield pros actually used in this role?
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Posted: 2/9/2018 7:29:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pony151515:
So were springfield pros actually used in this role? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2018 7:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
[#5]
I found this video/podcast by accident. It's a general discussion on 1911 pistols with Justin Carroll, who wrote an article titled "The MEU .45: the 1911 soldiers on" a while back.
It's not an M45 video, but he does reflect on his experiences with his 1911 in service, and discusses some of the features/ modifications on the M45 he used (as well as shortcomings). https://youtu.be/0TESFwUEK_Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TESFwUEK_Q |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 7:44:57 PM EDT
[#6]
 E228: The 1911 - Love, Hate, Myth, Practicality, and Best Basics Tag for later, thank you |
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Posted: 2/9/2018 10:23:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JSGlock34]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pony151515:
So were springfield pros actually used in this role? 
Below is a later 2005 procurement for an additional 150 Professionals. MEU(SOC) 45 caliber pistols Department of the Navy, United States Marine Corps, Marine Corps Systems Command, 2200 Lester Street, Quantico, VA, 22134-5010 Description This is notice of intended sole-source procurement on behalf of the Marine Corps Systems Command (MCSC). The procurement is for Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), SOC .45 caliber pistol posted in accordance with FAR 5.101(a)(1). The Marine Corps Systems Command (MARCORSYSCOM) intends to contract on a sole-source basis with Springfield Armory, 420 West Main Street, Geneseo, IL 61254 for MEU (SOC) .45 caliber pistol and associated packaging, marking and shipment. The following represents the governments intended parts list with quantities covered by this solicitation: (1) PC9111MC: Professional 1911-A1 .45ACR pistols Number: 150 The anticipated dollar amount is $284,850.00 Period of Performance: Date of Contract to 31 March 2005. FOB: Destination Delivery Point(s): 1. 75 pistols delivered to: DODAAC: MMSA01 Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, GA Traffic Management Officer MCLB Bldg 1221 Dr 20 MF FSD MMSA01 Weapons Whse 1340 Dr 9 Albany, GA 31704-5000 Attn: Mr. Willie Harris, (229) 639-5533 2. 75 pistols delivered to: DODAAC: MMSA02 Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, CA DLA and G MF MMSA02 Bldg 625 WE Yermo Annex FSD MCLB Barstow, CA 92311-5048 Attn: Ms Jane Sloat or Mr. Tony Marquez Phone: 760-577-7345 Responsible sources capable of satisfying this requirement are encouraged to submit a statement of capability and costs, which, if timely received, will be considered. Information must be provided to the contact cited above not later than 3:00 PM (EST) 16 March 2005. So that's at least 200 documented Springfield Professionals that entered USMC service. As stated earlier, a number of these Pros were later rebuilt as MEU(SOC) guns, to include cutting forward cocking serrations through the Springfield Custom Shop rollmark and removing the magwell (see below pic). Note the CRG prefix serial number on the frame. 
Last, I'll note that the few USMC Professionals that were procured in 2003 and 2005 are often confused with the 2007 Springfield Custom shop run of USMC pistols. Here's a picture of the Custom Shop pistol in service and another example in a glamour shot from Larry Vicker's 1911 book (pictured at right)...note the USMC prefix serial number. 
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Posted: 2/10/2018 4:00:11 PM EDT
[#8]
Great info, thank you for posting.
It would be interesting to know where those 150 Springfield Professionals procured in 2005 went. Do you have any more details on the 2007 Springfield Custom Shop run of USMC pistols? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By carmodyh:
Actually handled a Springfield pistol on my first deployment when working with MARSOC dudes. Still regret not snapping a photo of it. Pistol barrel was still chrome. Looked identical to the Springfield MEUSOC in the Larry Vickers guide. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 6:09:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-:
Great info, thank you for posting. It would be interesting to know where those 150 Springfield Professionals procured in 2005 went. Do you have any more details on the 2007 Springfield Custom Shop run of USMC pistols? Yep that would have been amazing to see, what year was that if I may ask? old pics  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse:
Pachmayr GM45C have the slot for the ambi leg. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:27:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JSGlock34]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-:
Great info, thank you for posting. It would be interesting to know where those 150 Springfield Professionals procured in 2005 went. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-:
Great info, thank you for posting. It would be interesting to know where those 150 Springfield Professionals procured in 2005 went. Do you have any more details on the 2007 Springfield Custom Shop run of USMC pistols? 
Patrick Sweeney displays a picture of one of these pistols in his 1911 The First 100 Years book (picture embedded below). Sweeney states that 250 of these pistols were built. His model appears identical to the pistol displayed in the Vickers Guide, but has a set of G10 'Gunner Grips' (which serve to nicely display the smooth frontstrap that is obscured by the Pachmayr grips in most photos of this pistol). Again, note the USMC Serial Number (USMC003). Vickers states in his guide that the serial number of the USMC procured pistols begins with USMC100; the serial numbers of the pistols in both Vickers' and Sweeney's books indicates these are privately purchased pistols built to the same specifications. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:41:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Parabellum226]
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1115381652/pachmayr-signature-grips-1911-government-commander-with-rubber-black
You’re looking for the Combat version. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:56:23 AM EDT
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This page is tempting me to put my pachymer grips back on
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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:00:43 PM EDT
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I don't really remember this for sure, and I've been reamed for posting before in here not really knowing for sure. But I'll just throw it out anyways.... I thought Kimber actually had a contract to supply their DET-1's a while back. And they sold the Desert Warrior commercially. Or it was called the Desert Warrior. I don't know.
Or maybe they submitted it and didn't supply any other than samples? I forget what the story was but I thought there were some Kimbers...... |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:02:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: @dontburyme where did you get the barrel done? Cost / turnaround? 
Got it done by Fusion Firearms in FL. $72 and 5 weeks. @Finslayer83 |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
I don't really remember this for sure, and I've been reamed for posting before in here not really knowing for sure. But I'll just throw it out anyways.... I thought Kimber actually had a contract to supply their DET-1's a while back. And they sold the Desert Warrior commercially. Or it was called the Desert Warrior. I don't know. Or maybe they submitted it and didn't supply any other than samples? I forget what the story was but I thought there were some Kimbers...... |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 7:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By detacbob: The Warrior was marketed as the copy of the Det-1 pistol. The Desert Warrior was put out on the FDE bandwagon. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSGlock34:
And the Warrior wasn't quite the Det-1 Kimber ICQB, which used real Novak sights, Gunner Grips, and the unique Dawson rail. https://d3axvdqkyu09xk.cloudfront.net/attachments/soldiertech_kimber1911-1-medium-jpg.1786/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSGlock34:
Originally Posted By detacbob: The Warrior was marketed as the copy of the Det-1 pistol. The Desert Warrior was put out on the FDE bandwagon. https://d3axvdqkyu09xk.cloudfront.net/attachments/soldiertech_kimber1911-1-medium-jpg.1786/ Which is why I said it was marketed as a copy vs. it is a copy or clone of the actual pistol. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 12:52:37 AM EDT
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But weren't there actual DET-1's that were all Kimber, or no?
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Posted: 2/12/2018 7:17:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
But weren't there actual DET-1's that were all Kimber, or no? |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:16:45 PM EDT
[#21]
OK good. Then I was not spreading misinformation. Remember how the Desert Warrior had those grips that were FDE but the texturing looked like the imprint of a good and plenty. I think some people said they looked like peanuts or something. LOL.
Yeah, here you go: 
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
OK good. Then I was not spreading misinformation. Remember how the Desert Warrior had those grips that were FDE but the texturing looked like the imprint of a good and plenty. I think some people said they looked like peanuts or something. LOL. Yeah, here you go: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u_ROpQFfmOM/maxresdefault.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 12:30:29 AM EDT
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You still shoot it? I don't see too many people post about them any longer....... I think it was one of the first FDE or tan pistols on the market. Ever. Don't quote me on that though.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 1:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
You still shoot it? I don't see too many people post about them any longer....... I think it was one of the first FDE or tan pistols on the market. Ever. Don't quote me on that though. )An article dated 11July, 2004: http://www.defensereview.com/kimber-introduces-new-warrior-1911-pistol-based-on-icqbmcsocom-det-1-pistol/ |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:44:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Originally Posted By JSGlock34:
There isn't a great deal out there on the 2007 Custom Shop pistols. Larry Vickers briefly talks about them (and displays great photos of one) in his Vickers Guide: 1911 (pp. 290-293). He describes them as essentially "the FBI Professional Model minus some frills"; from the pictures they appear to differ from the Pro in having standard all-black Novak sights (no tritium), Pachmayr grips (no front strap serrations), front cocking serrations, and instead of a magwell have a MSH with lanyard loop. Here's a pic of Vickers' pistol (note the serial number, USMC001). https://68.media.tumblr.com/48daf8e77579d8601fd20bbe7b40e5cc/tumblr_o4fyov0E6l1upvjnmo1_1280.jpg Patrick Sweeney displays a picture of one of these pistols in his 1911 The First 100 Years book (picture embedded below). Sweeney states that 250 of these pistols were built. His model appears identical to the pistol displayed in the Vickers Guide, but has a set of G10 'Gunner Grips' (which serve to nicely display the smooth frontstrap that is obscured by the Pachmayr grips in most photos of this pistol). Again, note the USMC Serial Number (USMC003). Vickers states in his guide that the serial number of the USMC procured pistols begins with USMC100; the serial numbers of the pistols in both Vickers' and Sweeney's books indicates these are privately purchased pistols built to the same specifications. https://1s18w12tqveh1xfywp1ulx42-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/gallery/1911-photo-gallery/h17-5-b.jpg |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:47:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JSGlock34:
I suspect most were rebuilt as MEU(SOC) pistols by PWS. Here's another example. http://forums.1911forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=72696&d=1321840384 http://forums.1911forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=72697&d=1321840460 |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:59:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -HOOT-: Photos aren't showing up. These 2005 procured Springfield Professionals would have been used by Force Recon and not DET-1 given that by that time they would have been running the Kimber ICQB, right? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:06:17 AM EDT
[#28]
is there a trick to see the photo's in this thread?
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:22:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E5MC:
is there a trick to see the photo's in this thread? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 10:39:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: E5MC]
[#30]
Thanks SecretSquirell
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Posted: 2/14/2018 10:11:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By E5MC:
Thanks SecretSquirell 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 12:44:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Anyone have the correct Cerakote color code for the M45A1 pistol? Tried to Google...but I'm not finding it.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:22:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang:
Anyone have the correct Cerakote color code for the M45A1 pistol? Tried to Google...but I'm not finding it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:35:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: Manganese phosphate parkerizing. For the Desert Tan Colt M45A1?? 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 7:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LongTrang: ??? For the Desert Tan Colt M45A1?? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 8:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By samuse: I missed the A1 part.
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Posted: 2/23/2018 8:10:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThomasleeUSMC]
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Posted: 3/2/2018 7:12:04 PM EDT
[#38]
This might have been posted, but:
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Posted: 3/2/2018 8:14:16 PM EDT
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A couple I took off of Youtube
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Posted: 3/4/2018 10:37:07 AM EDT
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Throwback to 2007 when i broke a meusoc
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Posted: 4/12/2018 10:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCColt:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/26_zps5jlytr02.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/27_zpsqxdtfgta.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/54_zpsbi4jjgbf.jpg http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/jacqueline_7599/53_zpsxwppwxw3.jpg Instead of the wrap around grips, it has pachy panels, and grip tape to cover up the front strap checkering? |
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Posted: 4/18/2018 9:42:34 PM EDT
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Barrel linkage sheared off. Probably extremely high round count and possibly not fitted right. 31st MEU 2007.
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Posted: 4/18/2018 9:58:08 PM EDT
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My pile of parts
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Posted: 4/19/2018 10:49:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tsg68]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pony151515:
So were springfield pros actually used in this role? |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 10:53:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fro1911Nut:
My pile of parts http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c40/michaelae7920/shotgun/B225D2D1-C263-4AC0-B5D7-EEA42DF26DF4_zpsnpychj9x.jpg |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 11:04:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: IDK but there are pics of custom carry slides with front slide serrations milled through the slide markings |
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Posted: 4/19/2018 9:01:12 PM EDT
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Yes sir
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Posted: 4/21/2018 5:38:05 AM EDT
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So I have pretty much all of the parts except a MSH, frame and slide. Where or what is the best way that I can get a Springfield slide for this build?
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Posted: 4/21/2018 6:20:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2018 1:12:12 PM EDT
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Not sure who these guys are and when.... Or if those are MEUSOC guns, but I figured I'd post anyways....
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