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I'm sure it's been discussed here in this thread but finding it is proving tricky.
I'm guessing that the PWS used Bar-sto "semi-fit" barrels not the "match target" barrels but wanted to confirm this before I commit. Thanks! |
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On KC's webpage, he says Bar Sto "semi-fit" barrels.
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He's a great resource and freely answers questions.
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That said, if you're having a pro assemble the gun, you may find more benefit in using the Match Target as the extra material allows a "better" fit. I think they are both the same price and have the same markings so the look should be the same (None of my MT barrels have any text denoting it).
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So I have had a pistol mostly put together to be a clone of an early gun for years. It's a 1919 Colt frame and a Remington-Rand slide that had an old set of Kings Harball sights when I got it. I know they aren't perfect, but they are a similar profile, and I love them.
Anyway, so I have always had a drop in Pachmayr grip safety because I never could find a Clarks safety. Now that there are obtainable replicas out there, I was going to order one. However, the rear end of my frame has always been a little weird. If I install any GI safety, the spots that normally flow with the tangs are always sticking way out. I know some pre-A1 frames had some off dimensions. I am supplying two pictures to illustrate my concern. Will a Clarks work, or is this frame dimensionally off? Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 103:
So I have had a pistol mostly put together to be a clone of an early gun for years. It's a 1919 Colt frame and a Remington-Rand slide that had an old set of Kings Harball sights when I got it. I know they aren't perfect, but they are a similar profile, and I love them. I know some pre-A1 frames had some off dimensions. I am supplying two pictures to illustrate my concern. Will a Clarks work, or is this frame dimensionally off? View Quote As you said, pre A1 1911's had a different tang radius. Unfortunately I can't answer about the beavertail fit on a pre A1. |
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Originally Posted By 103:
So I have had a pistol mostly put together to be a clone of an early gun for years. It's a 1919 Colt frame and a Remington-Rand slide that had an old set of Kings Harball sights when I got it. I know they aren't perfect, but they are a similar profile, and I love them. Anyway, so I have always had a drop in Pachmayr grip safety because I never could find a Clarks safety. Now that there are obtainable replicas out there, I was going to order one. However, the rear end of my frame has always been a little weird. If I install any GI safety, the spots that normally flow with the tangs are always sticking way out. I know some pre-A1 frames had some off dimensions. I am supplying two pictures to illustrate my concern. Will a Clarks work, or is this frame dimensionally off? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/106019/IMG-4289-179474.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/106019/IMG-4288-179473.JPG View Quote |
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THAT...is a beautiful thing.
Thanks for sharing these super high quality pics. |
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Beautiful.
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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How are you getting the Pachmayr grips to fit with the SA ambi safety? I have to loosen my right side for the safety to move freely. (thought about a kimber ambi)
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"Everyone has a plan until they get hit. "
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Originally Posted By Ubar_Jay:
How are you getting the Pachmayr grips to fit with the SA ambi safety? I have to loosen my right side for the safety to move freely. (thought about a kimber ambi) View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Ubar_Jay:
How are you getting the Pachmayr grips to fit with the SA ambi safety? I have to loosen my right side for the safety to move freely. (thought about a kimber ambi) View Quote |
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Life goes by pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while - and do whatever you want all the time - you can miss it.
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Did the caspian frames used for these have an MC prefix in the serial? or was it USMC?
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Originally Posted By Dunderway:
What model of Pachmayrs do you have? The newer ones should fit fine. They were factory on the MC Operator, which I believe used the same safety that SA currently does. View Quote Do you have a part number for them? Brownells has them listed as an ambi cut but in the Q&A it says not for SA models. SA doesn't have them on their site. |
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"Everyone has a plan until they get hit. "
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Originally Posted By Ubar_Jay:
Not sure, I bought them off the EE. Do you have a part number for them? Brownells has them listed as an ambi cut but in the Q&A it says not for SA models. SA doesn't have them on their site. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ubar_Jay:
Originally Posted By Dunderway:
What model of Pachmayrs do you have? The newer ones should fit fine. They were factory on the MC Operator, which I believe used the same safety that SA currently does. Do you have a part number for them? Brownells has them listed as an ambi cut but in the Q&A it says not for SA models. SA doesn't have them on their site. The grips should have an obvious ambi cut, and a brass tab insert IIRC. If yours have that, it might just be a tolerance stacking between Pachmayr and SA. |
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Life goes by pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while - and do whatever you want all the time - you can miss it.
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Originally Posted By Dunderway:
Sorry, I don't. SA customer service is extremely helpful though. I would email/call them and ask for a replacement grip for an original MC Operator. I bet they would have the PN. The grips should have an obvious ambi cut, and a brass tab insert IIRC. If yours have that, it might just be a tolerance stacking between Pachmayr and SA. View Quote |
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"Everyone has a plan until they get hit. "
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Anyone have a current PWS contact at Quantico? Working towards a build...
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No longer at the MFO, back in the Old Dominion.
VA, USA
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Back home now.
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Source/contact for that front site?
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His site is http://kcskustomcreations.com/ Shoot him an e-mail and he should get back to you quickly.
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I work with a retired 2112. I'm going to see if he is interested in building a few of these. Hopefully he will agree.
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/akim85/M45%20CQC/USMC1911MEUSOC.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/akim85/M45%20CQC/USMC1911MEU1.jpg This is clearly not the millet/pws angular front sight, and does not appear to use a front dovetail (at least to my untrained eye). Novak doesn't list any stake on front sight on their site. Is this some factory Springfield staked front sight or what? Can any of ya'll identify it? |
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Factory Springfield serrated ramp front sight. The most similar options I have seen outside of sending the gun to Springfield are the caspian serrated ramp and fusion has one too. Definitely dovetailed.
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Not nearly done. Just got the barrel back from being finished. http://i.imgur.com/4eNZ0uN.jpg Sad to see that Photobucket fucked up Augee's OP. View Quote How'd you get it finished? |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Thank you! It was just done in black oxide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Yep, it can. I sent it in to Fusion Firearms. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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C&H Precision recently finished my M45 build and posted this picture on their site.
Mine is the early variant second from the left Attached File |
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Best looking one of the bunch. Must see more pictures!
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Finally got her in my hands. Very pleased with how it turned out. Here's a couple before a heavy coat of ballistol. It's nice and dark now.
Attached File Attached File Huge shoutout to the forum for helping me acquire parts and knowledge. Mark, you were the biggest help in all of this Spec list: Frame- USGI Remington Rand. (Salvaged one that was previously polished and blued) Slide- Early 80's Springfield Armory (commercial) Barrel/Bushing- BarSto Match Trigger- C&S Videcki 3 hole Hammer- Colt Commander Slide stop- C&S checkered MSH- USGI serrated (modified to flat) Sights- PWS replica rear, Millet front Grip safety- Clark Recoil plug, guide rod, assorted internals are USGI |
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That is outstanding!!!!! Congrats!!!!!!
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Congratulation! Excellent built.
Originally Posted By Bohguy:
Finally got her in my hands. Very pleased with how it turned out. Here's a couple before a heavy coat of ballistol. It's nice and dark now. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416607/IMG_2270-293468.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416607/IMG_2271-293469.JPG Huge shoutout to the forum for helping me acquire parts and knowledge. Mark, you were the biggest help in all of this Spec list: Frame- USGI Remington Rand. (Salvaged one that was previously polished and blued) Slide- Early 80's Springfield Armory (commercial) Barrel/Bushing- BarSto Match Trigger- C&S Videcki 3 hole Hammer- Colt Commander Slide stop- C&S checkered MSH- USGI serrated (modified to flat) Sights- PWS replica rear, Millet front Grip safety- Clark Recoil plug, guide rod, assorted internals are USGI View Quote |
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Yes what is now the Bar-Sto "semi fit" barrel is the barrel we used when building the pistols. I have also now gotten produced exact copies of the front and rear sight, small modifications on the ambi, beavertail and commander hammer. Everything is manufactured out of bar stock or tool steel and are available on my web site. There is also as accurate as possible history of the different generations of the MEU (SOC) pistols on my web site as well.
www.kcskustomcreations.com I may be reached via email at [email protected] KC USMC (Ret.) 2112 |
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That’s one hell of a first post Jake!
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Insert something clever here.
NorCal issued callsign: Big Ten. scuba_steve issued callsign: Columbo |
S/F Jake. Nice looking gun. To bad you didn't get to shoot them.
Are you at camp Hansen? |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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Originally Posted By Jake0326:
Im currently a Recon Marine who also happens to be a gun nut (I know, go figure ) Ive only been in since 2012 so Ive only ever heard about the MEUSOC and how much better it is than our COLT CQBPs that I'm used to shooting. Of course you become numb to the "back in my day" shit and learn to ignore it after a while but being the gun nut I am Ive always been curious of the MEUSOC pistols to see if they actually do live up to the hype. So I just PCSed earlier this year to 1st Bn from Force Company at 3rd in Oki and had been hearing rumors around the unit that we still had some MEUSOCs hiding in our H&S company armory and thought it was just typical LCPL underground bullshit. But when one of my younger team guys told me he actually got to fire one at a random range he did with H&S, I had to go see if he was full of shit or not. Low and behold, we have somewhere upwards of 70 of these bad boys stashed away in the armory only seeing the light of day if I had to guess once every year if not every two years... The slide fit, trigger pull, barrel fit, everything feels better than our shot out colts(they get abused). Unfortunately I only got to dry fire it but Im going to have to figure out a way to get these out to one of our upcoming ranges, shouldn't be too hard with the senior enlisted (who also had no idea we had them) being fanboys of these guns too. So the Civilian Marksmanship Program is in the process of legalizing the sale of surplus Army 1911s to the public, we need to find a way to make sure these pistols find their way into this program and not allow Marine DRMO send them off to be melted down. Anyway, here are some pics of the one I handled https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4487/23889479248_53e90889ce_c.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4475/37742334671_9111a783f2_c.jpg View Quote |
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