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Posted: 2/9/2006 5:43:11 PM EDT
Gunbroker.

gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=43724924

You might have to pay "extra " to your FFL for the transfer though.

Because the ad states it has NO SERIAL NO.
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 6:32:52 PM EDT
Forgery??
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 7:03:16 PM EDT
It looks similar to a "replica" I used to have.

I would like to see a better photo of the barrel and internals.

I bet it is a fake gun
Link Posted: 2/9/2006 8:25:55 PM EDT
My intuition tells me it's real. From the pics you can see its a 1911 not a 1911a1. What year did serial numbers become mandatory?
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 12:00:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 3:37:39 AM EDT
I haven't played with a 1911 in years. But, if memory serves, the holes under the grips had little "swoops" on the top and bottom of the cuts.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:25:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 4:44:25 AM EDT by fxntime]
If it was in the Military I GUARANTEE it had a serial number at one time unless it was used at a "clean weapon". I doubt that it was that. More then likely it was a lunchbox gun or was made from a rejected frame that was supposed to be scrapped. That does not make it rare or particularly valuable. It's in pretty crappy shape and rates a poor condition. Without the USP mark and lack of a SN# I would not bother to bid on this particular piece. It really looks as if it has been reblued long ago and is not really collectable to anyone with any knowledge. It is possible the marks were taken off also as they were not always stamped very deeply and I have seen some good old timey grind and redos. An old reblue might have happened because they were ground.

It could easily be a fake also, made of junked scrap 1911 parts put together in the 50s. Colt ALWAYS sn# their guns BTW, one of the few makers that very good records are available, going back 125+ years.

Surprised that he did not show under the fp stop to show that the SN that might be under that has not been removed.

Buy the gun, not the story.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 4:43:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/10/2006 4:45:59 AM EDT by DoubleARon]
If you look close at the pics, you can see what just might be some numbers on the dust cover.



Look on the cover directly under the word "OF", you can make out what's left of a 5 and a 7. I bet there's one on there, just pretty much obliterated by time.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 1:38:02 PM EDT
I once saw a hard chromed 1911 that someone ground off the serial# and the Property of U.S. Government. They thought they had a gun that belonged to the Govt. and were scared.

Link Posted: 2/10/2006 8:47:33 PM EDT
"Look on the cover directly under the word "OF",

The problem with that is, that's NOT where the serial numbers were stamped.
The numbers were stamped farther back, and the Government Property stamp was there.

It's an original 1911 model.
It's either a "lunch box special" or it's an old markings removal job.
I've seen some of those that you simply could not detect that stamps had ever been there.
Link Posted: 2/10/2006 9:11:04 PM EDT
I would rather not have that in my collection. Too many potential issues.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 4:13:11 PM EDT
This is an AMAZING 1911: President of Cuba
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