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Posted: 1/3/2006 6:22:06 PM EDT
broke down my kimber eclipse.
reassemble,,
now the thumb safety, while on, I can pull the trigger and the safety drops with the hammer
Hense, No safety
HELP!!!!!!
seems to be all back together correctly but obvisously not..
have done this before, to LOTs of 1911's never had this issue. been shooting and cleaning them of over 30 years..

I have taken apart and reassembled 4 times now with same problem..even looked up the schematic on line at brownells,,,,????dont know what i have done wrong.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:04:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2006 7:54:01 PM EDT by hobbs5624]
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Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:07:16 PM EDT
thanks again, Hobbs..
did you get my IM..?
the weapon is reasonably new..to me anyways,,less than 4 yrs old by the invt tag on the box..
will try another safety and see it that solves the problem,, thanks
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 9:39:04 PM EDT
Hobbs, you are the man,,,
switched safety with my kimber classic...worked like new on the Eclipse..
so guess Wilson is gonna get some money..not worth the shipping to return the gun to kimber and the weeks to turn it around..not a huge fan of ambi safety so will pick up a single..for 35.00..
thanks again..
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:14:42 AM EDT
Know that your new Wilson safety will have to be fitted.

Sounds like you got real lucky that the Safety from the classic works on the Eclipse. However, do this test:

Empty the gun. Be sure.

No magazine, don't need it.

Cock hammer.

Engage thumb safety.

Grip pistol in firing grip to disengage grip safety.

Press trigger very hard.

Release trigger.

Disengage thumb safety.

***If hammer falls, you have what Colt calls a "scant safety", which means that the lug on the safety is not fitted correctly and allows the sear to move, instead of locking it***

This will more than likely require a new safety be fitted.

If the hammer didn't fall, then you're good to go.

SF
Colt 1911 armorer
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 12:12:01 PM EDT
took the eclipse out today,,
ran 100 rds through it,,
1 fail to feed with the same return to battery issue..
pulled the round and it did the same thing in my gold cup so,,,bad round,,,
other 99 ran like a machine,,,
what i did.
1. added 16lb spring from wolf. from factory 14.5lb? i believe..
2. stoned the part of the safety that rides up from inside the frame to hit the plunger so it was level to frame when in safe position
3. changed out thumb safety from another 1911
bam,bam,bam, etc....
thanks to all for the input, sincerly appreciated..

now awaiting new thumb safety from wilson and good to go..

Link Posted: 1/5/2006 12:14:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By a38337:
Know that your new Wilson safety will have to be fitted.

Sounds like you got real lucky that the Safety from the classic works on the Eclipse. However, do this test:

Empty the gun. Be sure.

No magazine, don't need it.

Cock hammer.

Engage thumb safety.

Grip pistol in firing grip to disengage grip safety.

Press trigger very hard.

Release trigger.

Disengage thumb safety.

***If hammer falls, you have what Colt calls a "scant safety", which means that the lug on the safety is not fitted correctly and allows the sear to move, instead of locking it***

This will more than likely require a new safety be fitted.

If the hammer didn't fall, then you're good to go.

SF
Colt 1911 armorer



you've described the thumb safety issue exactly. I took one off another 1911 and it solve the problem..yes,, most wilsons must be fitted bu on occasions you get lucky and they drop in,..have had it happen, will hope so if not,,will need to find a smith in San Diego
thanks for your input..
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 8:50:25 PM EDT
Good luck!
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