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Posted: 12/31/2005 1:08:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 3:44:56 PM EDT by CavVet]
Anyone have one? Opinions? Range reports???

I carry an Officers, but have been thinking about one a little shorter. I fondled one of the Kimbers at the store the other day, I am leaning towards a Springfiled though


Thanks!

Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:46:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:50:11 PM EDT
1911s shorter than 4" are not as reliable due to:

slide has less travel - imp. for feeding
timing/cycle of operations is accelerated
heavy springs to compensate for reduced slide mass

Stick to Commander/ProCarry size, IMO.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 3:40:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
I thought the Colt Officers 45 was already a 3.5" gun?



Wow. You made me go measure, and Im glad I did. I incorrectly always thought this was a 4", it is indeed a 3.5", so now I am guessing I want a 3"




Link Posted: 12/31/2005 3:44:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By a38337:
1911s shorter than 4" are not as reliable due to:

slide has less travel - imp. for feeding
timing/cycle of operations is accelerated
heavy springs to compensate for reduced slide mass

Stick to Commander/ProCarry size, IMO.




As I said above, I thought[/i[ my Officers was a 4", but I have never had any problems with it at all. Good ammo and good mags.....runs like a champ.


But Im not sure about a 3" one.........man.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 4:06:36 PM EDT
Don't waste your money.
I had a Springfield Loaded OD Green Lightweight Micro Compact (say that ten times fast).
Sold it and went back to carrying my Colt Officers LW.

The 3" barrel really doesn't help more than the 3.5 with concealment and makes the gun feel like it wanted to pop out of my holster. Too much weight in the butt and no barrel length to hold it.
It had about the same recoil and reliability as the Officers.

The only advantage to the shorter barrel IMO is if you carry your gun in a horizontal shoulder rig, then I would recommend the Colt Defender as it is the most reliable of the under 4" BBL guns.

My next 1911 will be a CCO. The grip is the hard part for me to hide as I'm 5'7 and 140lbs.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:04:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 6:09:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 6:11:56 PM EDT by JYogi]
I like the CCO set up most.

You have a Commanders Slide (4.25)
and you have the officers frame.

I am sending both of my CCO sized pieces off to have a radius (pseudo bobtail) done to both of them and replacing both MSH with smooth ones or I might have them scallop or chain them instead of stippleing them. For CCW the checkering is just going to catch on clothes.

Is that the Mini Cop above? If so whats it shoot? I know they were going to make one in .410 years ago, that would be a little powerhouse! If I recall the barrels rotate? Or is that one where the firing pin rotates (I think I recall the one that had a rotating firing pin was prone to problems)

If you are set on a 3 in there is a very nice Colt Deferender someone is selling in the EE, Email me if you want me to find the ad for you as I have it bookmarked, I was really considering it.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 6:18:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Men quite often think thier barrel is longer than it actually measures. Usually though thier final goal is to end up with a longer barrel not a shorter one.

I really can't see an extra half inch shorter really having an advantage for CCW over the Officers.

If you want something compact with a bite go for one of these.

myweb.cableone.net/uziforme/cop.jpg



OK, I'll bite. WTF is that and in what Caliber?
I thought the Rohrbaugh was the smallest full caiber auto (9mm) but that thing looks smaller.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 9:04:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By _DR:

Originally Posted By David_Hineline:
Men quite often think thier barrel is longer than it actually measures. Usually though thier final goal is to end up with a longer barrel not a shorter one.

I really can't see an extra half inch shorter really having an advantage for CCW over the Officers.

If you want something compact with a bite go for one of these.

myweb.cableone.net/uziforme/cop.jpg



OK, I'll bite. WTF is that and in what Caliber?
I thought the Rohrbaugh was the smallest full caiber auto (9mm) but that thing looks smaller.



that is a Semmerling,,,wish I had bought one when i could, great little gun, 4 shots, very slick.
very concealable..
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 9:24:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 9:29:59 PM EDT by JasonBurton]
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 10:26:33 PM EDT
in the late 80's or early 90's Derringer was going to make a Mini Cop like that which was going to come in 357 and also another in .410.
I do not know if the 410 ever came out, but it sounded like a neat little gizmo
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