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Posted: 6/8/2022 7:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Received my CMP 1911 order. Field grade, had a choice between field and rack. Based on SN, 1943 colt frame. Has a Remington Rand slide. SN edited out below, but is 1116xxx https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329177/1911_2_jpg-2411602.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329177/1911_3_jpg-2411603.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329177/1911_4_jpg-2411604.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329177/1911_5_jpg-2411605.JPG Nice. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:03:20 PM EDT
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Question for those who have gotten the call. I guess when they call you have 5 business days to call them back and complete your order.
Let’s say you call them back the same day and they say “only rack and field grades available..” any option to just hold off for 3-4 more days and call again and see if Service is now available? Or is it a now or never option once you call? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:16:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question for those who have gotten the call. I guess when they call you have 5 business days to call them back and complete your order. Let's say you call them back the same day and they say "only rack and field grades available.." any option to just hold off for 3-4 more days and call again and see if Service is now available? Or is it a now or never option once you call? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could try....but I'd not expect much change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question for those who have gotten the call. I guess when they call you have 5 business days to call them back and complete your order. Let's say you call them back the same day and they say "only rack and field grades available.." any option to just hold off for 3-4 more days and call again and see if Service is now available? Or is it a now or never option once you call? |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:56:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question for those who have gotten the call. I guess when they call you have 5 business days to call them back and complete your order. Let’s say you call them back the same day and they say “only rack and field grades available..” any option to just hold off for 3-4 more days and call again and see if Service is now available? Or is it a now or never option once you call? I received an email. The Wife received an email with hers. |
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Posted: 6/24/2022 9:33:11 PM EDT
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Dang they are quick. Got the initial call Tuesday, called back the same day. Got shipped notification Wednesday. Got the call from my dealer on Thursday that they had it for pick up.
Field Grade 1945 Remington Rand slide and frame.    
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Posted: 6/24/2022 9:35:33 PM EDT
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One interesting thing is my Brother got a first round Field Grade Colt with #13 on the grips:
 I got a second round field grade Remington Rand with #13 on both sides of the slide: 
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Posted: 6/24/2022 11:09:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One interesting thing is my Brother got a first round Field Grade Colt with #13 on the grips: https://i.imgur.com/O8uMXvZ.jpg I got a second round field grade Remington Rand with #13 on both sides of the slide: https://i.imgur.com/i0fSI1N.jpg That's pretty cool. ETA, mine has the number 55 etched in the slide, will try to grab a pic tomorrow. |
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Posted: 6/24/2022 11:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang they are quick. Got the initial call Tuesday, called back the same day. Got shipped notification Wednesday. Got the call from my dealer on Thursday that they had it for pick up. Field Grade 1945 Remington Rand slide and frame. https://i.imgur.com/x45x3YU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/p0TkGao.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5t98j5n.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6wm4lHh.jpg Damn that's gorgeous. My number is coming up, I pray I get one exactly like that! |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 2:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang they are quick. Got the initial call Tuesday, called back the same day. Got shipped notification Wednesday. Got the call from my dealer on Thursday that they had it for pick up. Field Grade 1945 Remington Rand slide and frame. https://i.imgur.com/x45x3YU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/p0TkGao.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5t98j5n.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6wm4lHh.jpg goodness, that's the stuff dreams are made of. I hope I am that lucky. Have a 32,000 number Has it ever been discussed to try to do a slide swap thread for those with mismatched guns? I basically don't care about the condition or mfg of mine if it matches, and that seems to be rare in the later round of this batch. Sucks someone fucked up the ability to request matched guns. |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 2:20:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: goodness, that's the stuff dreams are made of. I hope I am that lucky. Have a 32,000 number Has it ever been discussed to try to do a slide swap thread for those with mismatched guns? I basically don't care about the condition or mfg of mine if it matches, and that seems to be rare in the later round of this batch. Sucks someone fucked up the ability to request matched guns. I’ve seen a Reddit thread and a CMP forum thread from people trying to do just that. |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 2:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: goodness, that's the stuff dreams are made of. I hope I am that lucky. Have a 32,000 number Has it ever been discussed to try to do a slide swap thread for those with mismatched guns? I basically don't care about the condition or mfg of mine if it matches, and that seems to be rare in the later round of this batch. Sucks someone fucked up the ability to request matched guns. I considered checking on a slide swap, but it would still be a mismatched gun. You will never get it as it came from the factory. And the finish and wear will likely be widely different, whereas at least the CMP gun was refinished and wore together. So I have decided to appreciate mine as it came from the military stocks. Mine is “matched” at least in terms of any rebuild, finish wear, and (worst case) last assembly in the military. |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 6:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dang they are quick. Got the initial call Tuesday, called back the same day. Got shipped notification Wednesday. Got the call from my dealer on Thursday that they had it for pick up. Field Grade 1945 Remington Rand slide and frame. https://i.imgur.com/x45x3YU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/p0TkGao.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5t98j5n.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6wm4lHh.jpg Beautiful! A "correct" RR is the last model on my list to round out my USGI 1911 collection (no intentions of adding a Singer). I'd be content with an arsenal marked RR beater, and I'd be ecstatic with one as nice as what you received. Enjoy it! |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 8:17:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I considered checking on a slide swap, but it would still be a mismatched gun. You will never get it as it came from the factory. And the finish and wear will likely be widely different, whereas at least the CMP gun was refinished and wore together. So I have decided to appreciate mine as it came from the military stocks. Mine is “matched” at least in terms of any rebuild, finish wear, and (worst case) last assembly in the military. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: goodness, that's the stuff dreams are made of. I hope I am that lucky. Have a 32,000 number Has it ever been discussed to try to do a slide swap thread for those with mismatched guns? I basically don't care about the condition or mfg of mine if it matches, and that seems to be rare in the later round of this batch. Sucks someone fucked up the ability to request matched guns. I considered checking on a slide swap, but it would still be a mismatched gun. You will never get it as it came from the factory. And the finish and wear will likely be widely different, whereas at least the CMP gun was refinished and wore together. So I have decided to appreciate mine as it came from the military stocks. Mine is “matched” at least in terms of any rebuild, finish wear, and (worst case) last assembly in the military. In a couple of threads the "It's a parts gun!" thing came up over and over. So much froth that ignored that many of us WANTED the mixmasters because that's what we were issued and nostalgia demanded. The gun I was issued was a Colt frame and Remington Rand slide... That I only found out was a Colt frame because I had my arms-room card and the serial number. Remington was, of course, rollmarked on the slide. My CMP gun is an Ithaca frame with RemRand slide... And in a lot better shape than the gun I turned in back in '89. |
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Posted: 6/25/2022 8:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a couple of threads the "It's a parts gun!" thing came up over and over. So much froth that ignored that many of us WANTED the mixmasters because that's what we were issued and nostalgia demanded. The gun I was issued was a Colt frame and Remington Rand slide... That I only found out was a Colt frame because I had my arms-room card and the serial number. Remington was, of course, rollmarked on the slide. My CMP gun is an Ithaca frame with RemRand slide... And in a lot better shape than the gun I turned in back in '89. Yup, you get what the armorer hands you based on the number on your card. That's it, better love it! |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 12:15:49 AM EDT
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Any idea how high the RGN numbers went for round 2. I’m at 32,174 and submitted my packet on the last day or very close to it.
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Posted: 7/1/2022 10:11:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea how high the RGN numbers went for round 2. I’m at 32,174 and submitted my packet on the last day or very close to it. No one knows how many pistols they have for this round. |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 11:04:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any idea how high the RGN numbers went for round 2. I’m at 32,174 and submitted my packet on the last day or very close to it. IIRC, there were reports of RGNs in the 35,XXX range. This would seem to go to the end of September and then in October with a new fiscal year, there would potentially be another 10,000 pistols transferred and possibly a Round 3 of packets submitted in the last quarter this year. This is nothing but speculation on my part. |
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Posted: 7/1/2022 1:25:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Got my call today, 318xx.
Only service grade and rack grade available. I went with service grade so fingers crossed! |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 4:59:37 AM EDT
[#21]
Getting Close!
32,1XX It's been so long. |
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Posted: 7/5/2022 5:45:56 PM EDT
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Got the call last week - RGN 31860. Offered Service & Rack.
Got exactly what I wanted. Here's my Fourth of July gun: its a mix-master Rack Grade consisting of a Remington Rand Type III slide and 1945 Ithaca frame:  Probably an Ithaca, replacement hammer. Serrated (7 rib) MSH also possibly Ithaca. Yaman stamped trigger (Ithaca). Paint pen on several locations - and indication that a lot of other paint pen markings were removed at some point. The grips look brand new.  I would say there's roughly 50% finish remaining on about 50% of the slide. This fella is in way worse shape than the 1911s we had in the Navy. I am in no way complaining and I love how this thing looks. It's faded, but you can see the crossed cannon acceptance stamp right by the hammer pin.   1960's replacement barrel. Strong, bright chrome rifling on the inside - lot's of life left. I can't wait to shoot it. This one marking though is weird - I'm assuming it's an Ithaca inspector/proof mark. But I can't say I've ever seen it before. It's got the expected Frank J. Atwood initials just outside the right side of the pic. There's a "7" stamped on the other side of the trigger guard. 
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Posted: 7/5/2022 9:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This one marking though is weird - I'm assuming it's an Ithaca inspector/proof mark. But I can't say I've ever seen it before. It's got the expected Frank J. Atwood initials just outside the right side of the pic. There's a "7" stamped on the other side of the trigger guard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_164456-2442732.jpg That is one of the Ithaca factory proof mark.  |
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Posted: 7/6/2022 5:21:57 AM EDT
[#24]
Awesome. Thanks mlin.
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Posted: 7/6/2022 12:11:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Got my service grade today! Love it!
Remington slide and colt frame. Colt serial number is 16615xx, how would I figure out when it was made?  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/6/2022 12:22:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2022 12:39:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/6/2022 2:23:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Man, these last few weeks of waiting are killings me. RGN 32,174. Looks like they are around 31,900ish. I don’t care if I get a non matching frame and slide, but don’t really want a GI replacement slide or Israeli replacement slide. Is it fair to say rack and field grade are unlikely to have replacement slides?
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Posted: 7/6/2022 3:48:30 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, these last few weeks of waiting are killings me. RGN 32,174. Looks like they are around 31,900ish. I don't care if I get a non matching frame and slide, but don't really want a GI replacement slide or Israeli replacement slide. Is it fair to say rack and field grade are unlikely to have replacement slides? |
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Posted: 7/6/2022 4:27:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Friend was only offered rack and field. Chose rack, and got a replacement slide. I’ll get what I get then and I’ll like it if not love it. Fingers crossed. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 1:10:33 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got the call last week - RGN 31860. Offered Service & Rack. Got exactly what I wanted. Here's my Fourth of July gun: its a mix-master Rack Grade consisting of a Remington Rand slide and 1945 Ithaca frame: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_163143-2442734.jpg Probably an Ithaca, replacement hammer. Serrated (7 rib) MSH also possibly Ithaca. Yaman stamped trigger (Ithaca). Paint pen on several locations - and indication that a lot of other paint pen markings were removed at some point. The grips look brand new. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_164635-2442730.jpg I would say there's roughly 50% finish remaining on about 50% of the slide. This fella is in way worse shape than the 1911s we had in the Navy. I am in no way complaining and I love how this thing looks. It's faded, but you can see the crossed cannon acceptance stamp right by the hammer pin. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_164322-2442733.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_164602-2442731.jpg 1960's replacement barrel. Strong, bright chrome rifling on the inside - lot's of life left. I can't wait to shoot it. This one marking though is weird - I'm assuming it's an Ithaca inspector/proof mark. But I can't say I've ever seen it before. It's got the expected Frank J. Atwood initials just outside the right side of the pic. There's a "7" stamped on the other side of the trigger guard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_164456-2442732.jpg @Dolomite I picked up my rack grade today and it's an Ithaca frame with RR slide as well. Mine also has a white rack number on the grip safety like yours. It looks like your rack number was 96. Mine is 94. Wonder if they were in the same unit? Also, is it marked143 FA on the slide? If so, I'd say that's the 143rd Field Artillery battalion. They are a CA ARNG direct support field artillery battalion. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:31:32 AM EDT
[#32]
This place amazes me.
Quote HistoryQuoted:my rack grade today... Ithaca frame with RR slide... has a white rack number on the grip safety... It looks like your rack number was 96. Mine is 94. Wonder if they were in the same unit? Also, is it marked143 FA on the slide? If so, I'd say that's the 143rd Field Artillery battalion. They are a CA ARNG direct support field artillery battalion. Quote HistoryQuoted:my rack grade today... Ithaca frame with RR slide... has a white rack number on the grip safety... It looks like your rack number was 96. Mine is 94. Wonder if they were in the same unit? Also, is it marked143 FA on the slide? If so, I'd say that's the 143rd Field Artillery battalion. They are a CA ARNG direct support field artillery battalion. That just made my day. It is (or was) marked: 1 - 143 FA on the right side of the slide.  Here's the other side - looks like an abbrevition for Headquarters and Headquarters Battery to me.  This pistol could have been in Korea during the war. Damn. Sent a FOIA e-mail yesterday and got this (UNCLASSIFIED) reply: USARMY Redstone Arsenal LDAC Mailbox FOIA CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED Sir or Ma'am, LDAC has received your FOIA request for a M1911A1 Caliber .45 Pistol serial number 2645136. Please allow up to 3 weeks to receive your response. You are now # 67 in the queue. The DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry history only goes back to 1975 when the Registry was started. v/r FOIA Officer/Training Officer Operations Branch/Mission Support Division Logistics Data Analysis Center (LDAC) US Army Materiel Command Redstone Arsenal, Alabama |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 10:08:37 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This place amazes me. @redleg13a That just made my day. It is (or was) marked: 1 - 143 FA on the right side of the slide. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/143FARegtCOA-2445383.jpg Sent a FOIA e-mail yesterday and got this (UNCLASSIFIED) reply: Cool! Let us know what you find out. Where did you submit your FOIA? |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 10:37:01 AM EDT
[#34]
Here's a copy of what I sent
To: [email protected] Subject: FOIA Request To Whom It May Concern, This Freedom of Information Act request is for ownership history of a US Pistol, Model M1911A1, Caliber .45, Automatic, NSN 1005-00-726-5655, Serial Number ... I am interested in any and all Department of Defense history to include the military branch of service to which it was assigned and military unit history. I am willing to pay $20 for this service. Thank you for your time and for your service to our great country. Regards,? |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 12:09:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Thanks. I think I'll send one in just to see if it has the same or similar history to yours. Would be very cool if they were both in the same unit at the same time.
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Posted: 7/8/2022 12:55:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool! Let us know what you find out. Where did you submit your FOIA? I asked this question on CMP forums, here's the thread |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 1:02:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryJust submitted mine this morning. Be interesting if my pistol spent time in the same rack as Dolomite's! |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a copy of what I sent To: [email protected] Subject: FOIA Request To Whom It May Concern, This Freedom of Information Act request is for ownership history of a US Pistol, Model M1911A1, Caliber .45, Automatic, NSN 1005-00-726-5655, Serial Number ... I am interested in any and all Department of Defense history to include the military branch of service to which it was assigned and military unit history. I am willing to pay $20 for this service. Thank you for your time and for your service to our great country. Regards,? Thanks for the template. 
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Posted: 7/8/2022 4:49:03 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the template. Yes thanks, I just sent a FOIA request on my CMP 1911. |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 5:00:54 PM EDT
[#40]
Ok you guys made it too easy, I sent one off, but I'm pretty sure mine was as Navy pistol. Any leads on their FOIA process?
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Posted: 7/8/2022 5:21:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/8/2022 8:17:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok you guys made it too easy, I sent one off, but I'm pretty sure mine was as Navy pistol. Any leads on their FOIA process? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 11:01:18 AM EDT
[#43]
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2048/20220705_163203-2445462.jpg
Question regarding rack grade. I’ve seen some pictures of rack grades with little to no surface rust. This one looks like it has a bit more than I’ve seen on other pictures. I know rack grade description says rust may be present. Is the pictured rack grade more typical of CMP rack grade or less typical? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 11:23:42 AM EDT
[#44]
Yeesh - that does look kind of rusty. That's my photo taken in the middle of a sunny day - I was really trying to get the old paint pen markings to show up - so I adjusted the picture filters a bit. Still: it's so ugly - it's hot.
Under regular lighting it just looks like a well used gun with a little finish remaining - however - using a clean piece of cotton t-shirt and some fresh Hoppes gun oil, I can get rust color to appear on the cloth with a little bit of rubbing. Now that very well could be dried Cosmoline also. Maybe I'll do that for a few days and try another photo. Do all rack grades look like that? I don't know. Some do not from the photo's I've seen. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 11:48:40 AM EDT
[#45]
Good to know.
I’m waffling between rack and field for that been there, done that look. I have a short time to make up my mind. Might be made up for me with only one choice. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 11:49:36 AM EDT
[#46]
My 1911 had dark splotches that at first appeared to be surface rust. But I was able to scrub it off. I have not cleaned all of the spots yet.
I suspect on my gun it is dried cosmoline or oil or something. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 12:22:55 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Start with emailing Redstone at the above address. If records show Navy/Marines dispo or if you have refurb markings indicating it then FOIA.gov request from the department of the Navy Thanks, I sent a request to Redstone so we will see. My pistol is a mutt like some others with a Remington frame and Colt slide. The frame was in the middle of a batch that went to the Brooklyn Naval Yard and the slide is serialed and was in the middle of a batch that also went to the navy. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 4:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, I sent a request to Redstone so we will see. My pistol is a mutt like some others with a Remington frame and Colt slide. The frame was in the middle of a batch that went to the Brooklyn Naval Yard and the slide is serialed and was in the middle of a batch that also went to the navy. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 5:39:38 PM EDT
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I got the call today from CMP. I made a snap decision to go with field grade. There is some paperwork that needed to be updated so I’m guessing it will ship next week. I was RGN # 32,174. I sent my packet in on or near the last day.
If anyone wants to post that info on the CMP1911 forum, feel free. I apparently don’t have the authorization needed to post yet. I did email the CMP forum about that because I’ll want to post pictures soon . Hopefully NOT pictures of an IMI slide. I don’t remember what manufacturer I was issued in 1990, but I’m 100% sure it was not a replacement slide because I remember it had a manufacturer’s roll mark, I just don’t remember which one. I want to retain the illusion that the one I get is the one I was issued.Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!! It’s like Christmas early. Will I get a lump of coal, new socks, or a new pony? Stay tuned. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 7:50:20 PM EDT
[#50]
Wife's and my numbers came up. We both picked rack grades.
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