Hello guys, I'm a long time glock fan boy that's interested in adding a 1911 to my collection but I want a 10mm because I'm a long time 10mm fan as well, I just feel like everyone should own a 1911 and now that they are popping up in my favorite caliber it's time for me to have one.......

Here's what I'm after:
-standard size 10mm auto 1911
- must have a light rail
-reliable
-I would prefer black but I can have it cerakoted so it's not a huge deal
-night sights or the ability to accept them
-shooting for a $1,500 or less price tag
-It would be nice to find an aftermarket threaded barrel but not a requirement

So far I'm looking at the colt delta elite rail gun and the kimber custom tle/rl II in 10mm, please share anything you know about these two options and any other 10mm 1911s that fit my criteria, thanks guys!!!

Check out the new Ruger 10mm

Colt delta elite, I just picked up a new production one and it has eaten everything I have fed through it so far (including Hornady  Critial Defense and PPU JHPs).

Here's a pic of mine.

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They don't have a railed model unfortunately

How many rounds do you have down the pipe?

Remington has a long slide version of the R1 in 10mm.  A 6-inch barrel helps maximize the 10mm Auto's potential.  It does have a rail.

https://www.remington.com/handguns/model-1911-r1/1911-r1-10mm-hunter

Rock Island offers some 10mm variants.

Love my Delta, but the SIg tacops is my favorite  10mm !  Has what you are looking for.

400 or so, I know its not an amazingly high round count but I have only made 1 trip with to the range since I got it.

Great looking gun there! It has all the features I want and it comes with 4 mags! It's definitely on the list to research now

I have the delta and the glock 20. Both have been flawless. I had the delta polished to a mirror finish, it is my pimp gun

Colt DE or RIA.

Those really are the only two options.

Either the real deal, or the best bang for the buck.....

The Delta Elite can't handle real 10mm ammo and the RIA's are hit or miss.

If a rail is a must have, I'd pick the Sig TacOps.  For a gun without a rail, I'd take the new Ruger SR1911.

Word is that Springfield Armory is planning to release a 10mm TRP but I haven't heard anything additional since the talk at Shot Show 2017.

Lol

That is nice.

I got an email today from RK guns ( Rual King) that the special of the day was new RIA 10mm's for $380. How ever it was the GI style. I thought it wasn't a bad price.

This is brass fired from a Delta Elite.  Ammo was factory Armscor 180 gr, far from a hot load.

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There is a reason that Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and Double Tap advise against using their ammo in a DE.  

As far as RIA, if you get a good one, they are GTG.  There are plenty of reports of people having to send them in for warranty work.  I'd rather not take my chances. YMMV.

Both the Sig and Ruger have ramped barrels.  The Ruger uses a bushingless bull barrel.  It makes a lot of sense for a 10mm, as it delays unlocking.  Add a flat firing pin stop, and the Ruger will handle any 10mm loads.

If money is no object, there is the Dan Wesson Silverback and STI Nitro.

Underwood  Does not advise against  using  ANY  of there  loads in the Delta anymore.

I have fired many Underwood  rounds through  my Delta and some have slight buldges, but nothing  near as severe as your pictures of the Armscor  brass.

Thanks for all the information guys, I've been reading and watching reviews and going through threads on various forums and the more I read and learn the more I think I may be better served to let my glocks continue to handle my 10mm needs and get 1911 in 45acp, at least for my first 1911. There are so many more options and it's the round the gun was designed for.

I'm pretty torn and will likely end up with a 10mm and 45acp but I think I'll get a 45 first.

Oh, so NOW they come out with stuff people have been asking for. They lost my money a couple months ago and will never be getting another dime! I'm looking at the Sig and maybe the Remington. Ruger will get my money if they come out with a railed version and a color other than Stainless.

A 1911 in 10mm shouldn't be a problem if properly set up.  In a Glock, slide mass is all you have to retard slide velocity.  I find that if I am going to run 200 gr bullets @1300 fps, the slide outruns the mag, leading to FTF's.  The fix was to add a compensator.

With a 1911, you can install a flat firing pin stop and a heavier mainspring to slow the slide down.  I think a 1911 with a bull barrel like the Ruger or STI, in conjunction with a flat firing pin stop, heavier recoil spring, extra power firing pin spring, and heavier mainspring would be the perfect set up for shooting hot 10mm rounds.

Dudenal, both those loads you just named are .40-duplicating wuss loads. Try running real 10mm ammo through your Delta.

That's a nice pic of your DE (yes, I have one too), but good gawd, dude, man-up on what you're feeding it.

This is my first 10mm and I got it 2 weeks ago

What do you recommend for ammo?

Sellier&Bellot  is the most economical. Warm but not full power, but usually  can be found cheap. SIG fmj is about the best outside of Underwood. Advertised at 1250 fps.
Hollow point ammo. Underwood,  Double Tap or Buffalo  Bore.

A gunsmith-fit ramped barrel and that would be perfect.

While the Critical Duty might not be a full power load, the 10mm is better than their .40 or .45.

Get the Sig!

Is that a new or old production DE?

Are you trying to say Ruger and Sig have no known 1911 issues? lol

Or dan Wesson or STI for that matter lol

If I was in the market for a 10 mm at Norma specs I would want a ramped barrel. If I was going to shoot under charged 10 mm I would just get a 40 S&W with a ramped barrel.

New production Delta.  It's absurd that they are still using throated barrels.

All 1911's have known issues.  It is a roll of the dice if you are going to get one that works or not straight out of the box.

I believe that certain manufacturers like Sig, Ruger, and S&W produce excellent 1911's that are likely to run right initially, and if they don't, all 3 companies will issue a prepaid shipping label to send the gun back.  Can't say that for a lot of manufacturers.

There are known issues with certain RIA barrels.  RIA only warrants their guns to run on factory FMJ ammo.  I frankly, don't want to take a chance on having to deal with their CS.  YMMV.

For a Gov't length 10mm 1911, I personally would want a ramped bull barrel.  That leaves either STI or the new Ruger.  The bull barrel in conjuction with a flat firing pin stop and heavier mainspring should slow the slide down enough that the gun can handle hot 10mm loads.  Keep in mind the 1911 was designed for 20K psi 45 ACP loads, not the 37,500K SAAMI spec for the 10mm.  
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Okay, no problem, ... congrats on your first 10mm.

Unless you reload, right now the best combination of price and reasonably "full throttle" factory ammo for training/practice/range use (that you can find on the shelf) is Sig's 180gn 10mm FMJ ammo @ 1250fps.  

I've gone thru 1500-rds of it now, and not one issue or hiccup. Good quality 10mm ammo, and you can save the brass for when you do start reloading.  

As such.  LOVE this thing.

I've got a RIA 10mm tactical. I have had it for a year now and its been very reliable in the 300 or so rounds. The only problem I have with it is finding magazines for it. Even RIA is back logged.

Have you ever tried .45 magazines?

Glock 40

I used to own the model Kimber you are contemplating. It was reliable and a decent pistol and I paid $1,100 for it. That said, I sold it and bought two Dan Wesson 10mm 1911 pistols. One was a Silverback (doesn't have the light rail) and the other was as special order Specialist Commander in 10mm (the Specialist models have light rails). The Silverback hasn't need a break in period at all. The special order Specialist Commander locked up the slide on the receiver and had to go back to the factory. The Dan Wesson pistols are one step higher up in quality than either Colts or Kimbers. Kimber offers a 1911 that is reliable and a better value for features you get that are standard features that Colt does not give up (I've always had to have extra work done on Colts to bring them up to snuff). The Specialist Commander customer service was great. I went to their website and sent in an e-mail. I got an e-mail back a day later with FedEx info. to send my pistol back to them at their cost. They worked on the pistol and sent it back to me. No charge sending it to them or back to be or for the repair work.  

Kimbers used to be unreliable back about 15 years ago with external extractors. They corrected that with internal extractors and they work fine now. I've owned about 4 Kimbers over the last several years (different models) and the only issues I have ever encountered with them were finish rusting on non stainless models and the Kimber factory magazine is not the best. I always buy Wilson Combat or Tripp Research Cobra magazines or Chip McCormack Power mags.

I have a Night Hawk Custom 1911 pistol in 10mm and it is my best, most accurate, and most reliable 1911 pistol. But, it is not in your price range. I would skip the Colt and Kimber, and get a Dan Wesson 1911 in your price range. They're better quality than either Colt or Kimber. I'd recommend a Specialist in 10mm. If the price is too high, then check into their Blemished models. These are brand new pistols that have a minute cosmetic blemish such as a pin head sized scratch in the finish. This can result in up to $500 discount and the pistol has full factory warranty coverage for non cosmetic issues.

If you can slide on the rail then you would be in a Dan Wesson price range. Razorback 10mm

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I have the silverback n love it. I think you can't go wrong with Dan Wesson and I'm a colt fan

I think the Rock Island 10mms are a pretty good value, I wish I went with the railed version when I bought mine. I put a 22lb recoil spring in mine with a flat firing pin stop, handles nuclear loads no sweat, much more comfortable shooter than my G20 was

What makes the RIAs "hit or miss"?

Came to post this. I have their Commander in 10mm & love it.

I also have a STI Govt in 10mm. Love it as well.

Ruger & Remington models will take a beating on resale value.

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Dan Wesson Specialist, Special Order in 10mm would be my choice.  Non Railed the Razorback, Valor, or Silverback - all excellent models built for different purposes.  

Colt DE offers a railed model now, not sure if it's actually available yet.

No experience with RIA but buddy had one of those 9mm/22TCM combo's and had nothing but trouble with it.

I had the 2016 DE and sold it to get the Silverback.  Also shot the new Ruger 10mm and wasn't real impressed... it was... well a Ruger, I guess.  Fine  for a $700 1911 I suppose and all that entails...  poor trigger, cheap sights, MIM internals, average fit, etc.  Not terrible at the price point, just not something I was looking for.

I would not do a non-ramped barrel 10mm if you want to shoot full power loads regularly.  

I love my Sig Tacops 1911 10mm.  Note it does have the Sig slide profile so most 1911 holsters will not work for it.  Other than that it hits all the items you listed.

STI makes a nice hunter 10mm in the $1600 range.

Dan Wesson is the one I really want but I could not justify the $700 price premium over the Sig.

Sig makes good stuff - I never understood why they created their own slide profile vs a std 1911... nothing but headaches for most users it seems.  One of the reasons I never gave it more than a cursory glance.  With the standard profile I bet they would sell a bunch more.

They sell some of their models with the traditional slide profile including the Tacops.  I don't know if they sell the 10mm Tacops with a traditional slide profile.

Hi All,
I have been looking into a 1911 in 10 mm as well, a local shop has a STI Nitro double stack for $1900.00. I see it has been discontinued so there must be a reason for that. Its a beautiful gun but not sure if worth the money compared to RIA, which has mixed reviews. I am unsure why the Nitro has discontinued and concerned about parts/mags (expensive) if needed in future.

I have ONE opportunity to get a 10 mm in 1911 and have to do it right without dumping more money into it for customization. I like idea of double stack mags but not a breaking point.

I have G20, looking at Ruger, DW, RIA, STI, its good to have options.

OP, what are your thoughts on STI?

should I jump on Nitro?
Thanks

I have a DW Bruin in 10mm and I like it.  That's the only 10mm I've shot.  

I understand some of the differences between the Sig 1911 10mm and the Sig 220 10mm SAO, but just on paper.  I've never seen one or held one.   If you've shot both, any practical difference between the two?   I ask because one is a 220 and takes all 220 accessories, the other is a 1911 and doesn't take all 1911 accessories.  

I concede if the Sig 1911 10mm was completely standard 1911, I wouldn't ask the question.

Where are my manners?  DW Bruin in 10mm Attached File

STI, makes a fine 2011. STI just reduced the product offering, but don't worry about spare parts the 2011 top end is all 1911 parts and most of the lower end as well.

trigger, magazine release, and frame are about the only 2011 specific parts while the other parts are used from a 1911.