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Link Posted: 3/20/2017 11:29:54 PM EDT
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Correct. The "civilian" versions of this model, of which I believe there were 50 made, came out of the custom shop. They were $2400 IIRC.
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Actually quite a few more than 50 were released from the custom shop, but I don't know the actual number.


In any event, here is the info straight from BJT72:

Lets make it simple.
O1070M45 - Production line gun (closest to guns issued to Marines)
O1070CQB - Custom Shop gun (fitted barrel, tuned trigger, better fit and finish)
M1070CQBP - Gun sold to Marine Corps. (closest to M45)
Brent
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Link Posted: 3/21/2017 12:23:31 AM EDT
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Damn. Sweet weapons. I still really want to build an MEU clone. On my bucket list. I don't need a rack of 1911's, but I'd like two - my Camp Perry gun and an MEU. What I like is they are a gun you wouldn't feel bad about carrying in the backcountry.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 12:26:27 AM EDT
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Actually quite a few more than 50 were released from the custom shop, but I don't know the actual number.


In any event, here is the info straight from BJT72:

Lets make it simple.
O1070M45 - Production line gun (closest to guns issued to Marines)
O1070CQB - Custom Shop gun (fitted barrel, tuned trigger, better fit and finish)
M1070CQBP - Gun sold to Marine Corps. (closest to M45)
Brent
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I have a civi one that the case is labeled 01070m45. The gun, however, is marked m1070cqbp.  Sorry, crappy picture.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 2:34:24 AM EDT
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Actually quite a few more than 50 were released from the custom shop, but I don't know the actual number.


In any event, here is the info straight from BJT72:

Lets make it simple.
O1070M45 - Production line gun (closest to guns issued to Marines)
O1070CQB - Custom Shop gun (fitted barrel, tuned trigger, better fit and finish)
M1070CQBP - Gun sold to Marine Corps. (closest to M45)
Brent
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Looking into it,that's not correct.  It's just a close quarters battle pistol.  Here is a listed pistol


My links don't work, but it is a factory part number
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 8:57:45 AM EDT
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I wonder how many CCS guns will get a laser X to simulate being issued and returned? Not everybody knows part numbers or serial number listings.

As for Ionbond I suspect that if it's better at resisting abrasion when carried in a dust filled holster it's a matter of how we measure units of time in service, not about them being impervious to it. When somebody comes up with a coating that survives being applied inside a concrete mixer, maybe. Otherwise, it's still a matter of when, not if. Look at the 1911 in service carried in leather holsters. There is a reason why so many were junked, and why they weren't worth armory rebuilding again. How do we clean brass being reloaded? Put them in a vibrating container filled with abrasive media. Pistol in plastic holster filled with dust = the finish will be ground off no matter what.

In this specific case Colt certainly didn't bother refinishing them. Either the contract required new guns or the turnaround wasn't worth the bother.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:03:27 AM EDT
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Looking into it,that's not correct.  It's just a close quarters battle pistol.  Here is a listed pistol


My links don't work, but it is a factory part number
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I think all of the pistols were marked M1070CQBP.  Here is mine, which is a custom shop gun and was ordered straight from Colt shortly after they announced the pistols were being released for sale.  








Anyway, the point of my post is that the contract guns that are/were issued to Marines are not custom shop guns.  According to Brent Turchi, they are production line guns.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 10:42:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/21/2017 10:50:42 AM EDT
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I sent him an email as well as I regretted not buying two like I was thinking initially.

I have not heard back from them yet though.

I have 2 boys so it would be nice to have one for each of them at some point.

I've got 2 1918 Colts, 2 WW2 Colts, 2 Remington Rands and 2 Ithacas for them so they already have a pretty nice GI 1911 collection and don't even know it yet

Now if I could just find me one nice US&S at a reasonable price
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 5:43:43 PM EDT
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Someones already re-posting them for sale for huge mark up...Capitalism at it's best! More power to you.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/631388890
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:21:44 PM EDT
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Someones already re-posting them for sale for huge mark up...Capitalism at it's best! More power to you.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/631388890
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That auction closed at $2200 with reserve not met, and not relisted.  I also think it closed early for some reason.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:34:50 PM EDT
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I don't think he had them in hand as the pics are the same as the other auction.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:43:08 PM EDT
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I am thinking he was just chumming the waters to see what he might get for them.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 9:52:17 PM EDT
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My younger brothers ffl guy got 25 of these from the same liquidator, but not through gun broker.  He told me they were in the works maybe 6 months ago.  His guy claims they had around 4000 available.

My guess is behind the scenes there were a number of dealers who knew and got a bunch.  Perhaps the ones sold on gunbroker were the leftovers.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 10:29:11 PM EDT
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There's one problem I see with that possibility.  Anyone, any dealer or retailer that has these would have them on the market right now and so far the ones on GB are the only ones we have seen.

If what you said is true, I would expect to have seen them listed on AIM and/or Classic Firearms already.

Earl

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My younger brothers ffl guy got 25 of these from the same liquidator, but not through gun broker.  He told me they were in the works maybe 6 months ago.  His guy claims they had around 4000 available.

My guess is behind the scenes there were a number of dealers who knew and got a bunch.  Perhaps the ones sold on gunbroker were the leftovers.
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Link Posted: 3/21/2017 11:31:58 PM EDT
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There's one problem I see with that possibility.  Anyone, any dealer or retailer that has these would have them on the market right now and so far the ones on GB are the only ones we have seen.

If what you said is true, I would expect to have seen them listed on AIM and/or Classic Firearms already.

Earl
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Why are you convinced they would be up already?  It's possible the market will never be higher than now.  It's also possible that they will continue to gain value over years to come like the ww2 1911a1s.  Time will tell.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 11:45:59 PM EDT
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Yeah really destroys the collectible value of it especially to guys who are former Marines and wanted one.
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Sucks they laser engraved the X.
Yeah really destroys the collectible value of it especially to guys who are former Marines and wanted one.
Nope, these will be worth double in a year or so. Very, very rare that US military sidearms get sold in a verifiable manner. They could have laser engraved a penis on the slide and these would still sell like hotcakes.
Link Posted: 3/21/2017 11:47:03 PM EDT
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Yep
$1350 for a military surplus 1911

$1350 for the last 1911 in history to be issued to the US Marines ANYONE.
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$1350 for a military surplus 1911

$1350 for the last 1911 in history to be issued to the US Marines ANYONE.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 7:13:18 AM EDT
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My younger brothers ffl guy got 25 of these from the same liquidator, but not through gun broker.  He told me they were in the works maybe 6 months ago.  His guy claims they had around 4000 available.

My guess is behind the scenes there were a number of dealers who knew and got a bunch.  Perhaps the ones sold on gunbroker were the leftovers.
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I wonder how many the Marines received from Colt.
Link Posted: 3/22/2017 8:46:20 AM EDT
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Nope, these will be worth double in a year or so. Very, very rare that US military sidearms get sold in a verifiable manner. They could have laser engraved a penis on the slide and these would still sell like hotcakes.
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That would actually up the value to Marines.

Link Posted: 3/22/2017 11:21:20 AM EDT
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I seem to recall a number of roughly 12000 procured. Keep in mind these were guns for special operations units only. Marsoc has gone mostly glock. It is my understanding like so many things in the military that these are now trickling down to other units of a less specialized nature such as base swat teams. A friend of mine who was force recon told me ( he got out just as these were being introduced) he hadn't used anything but a meu-soc 1911 in the last ten or so years.
Fwiw the mk23 was such a flop with special operations some conventional troops I deployed to Iraq with in 2004 managed to acquire some
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 12:48:43 AM EDT
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That would actually up the value to Marines.

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Nope, these will be worth double in a year or so. Very, very rare that US military sidearms get sold in a verifiable manner. They could have laser engraved a penis on the slide and these would still sell like hotcakes.
That would actually up the value to Marines.

I would buy it.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 12:03:58 PM EDT
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Here is one being flipped....currently at $2500

MEUSOC COLT 1911
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:56:39 PM EDT
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Here is a second one with a Buy It Now price of $2600.
Colt M45A1 Buy It Now
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 6:37:25 PM EDT
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Damn. I'm going to sell mine for 5k
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 7:21:34 PM EDT
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Here is a second one with a Buy It Now price of $2600.
Colt M45A1 Buy It Now
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That price isn't worth it.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 7:25:21 PM EDT
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The first one is the same guy who posted the other one that made it to $2200 and then was canceled without meeting reserve.

Funny though that both of them are using the same "stock" pics from the original auctions. I wonder if they even have them in hand and I would demand a pic of the actual gun before I would drop that kind of money.

Oh, and I wouldn't drop that kind of money on one.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 8:48:11 PM EDT
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I don't think they have them yet Banshee.  Most of the early winners didn't start seeing shipping information until yesterday.  Right now they are onto Saturday's winners.  I purchased on Sunday so fingers crossed I'll have shipping info tomorrow.  Earl
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 11:53:09 PM EDT
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I'm curious to see what kind of condition they are actually in and of course I can't wait to see mine.

Mines gonna be a while as it's a Monday purchase.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 7:16:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:59:42 AM EDT
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Here are photos of one of the actual pistols and a letter from Colt.
Link To Actual MEUSOC M45A1 Pistol Auction
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 1:04:26 PM EDT
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I purchased one myself. When it comes in I will share pics.

I almost did/wish I did purchase a second one for my father.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/24/2017 5:31:48 PM EDT
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One being auctioned/flipped at $3250.00 with 5 bids.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:22:31 PM EDT
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That price isn't worth it.
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Here is a second one with a Buy It Now price of $2600.
Colt M45A1 Buy It Now
That price isn't worth it.
Looks like there are people who disagree.

How many of us who got one ordered are kicking themselves for not getting two and keeping the better one?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 6:24:00 PM EDT
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Me...I had two in my cart and changed it to one like a dumbass.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Me...I had two in my cart and changed it to one like a dumbass.
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Me too

Sad thing is I would have kept both of them though.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 9:49:25 PM EDT
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Me too

Sad thing is I would have kept both of them though.
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Me...I had two in my cart and changed it to one like a dumbass.
Me too

Sad thing is I would have kept both of them though.
Truth!
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:03:22 PM EDT
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Marines are moving away from them.
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Why is it "decommissioned" so...early? What's wrong with it?
Marines are moving away from them.
Not trolling but Glock 19
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:14:34 PM EDT
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Anybody get tracking info yet?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:24:54 PM EDT
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Not trolling but Glock 19
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I thought they were being replaced with ionbond models. Are those being decommissioned as well?
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:35:33 PM EDT
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I thought they were replacing them with Glock 21s?

Edit: I stand corrected by a quick google search but too late
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 10:46:06 PM EDT
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No Glock 21's.  From what I understand Marine MARSOC dropped the M45A1 and is going to the Glock 19.  Other Marine units such as Force Recon, etc. still use the M45A1 to my knowledge - so they use the ion bond guns.  And then the Army selected the Sig 320.
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 11:00:16 PM EDT
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I think marsoc gets the glock 19 because of socom using them.
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 8:51:56 AM EDT
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IN THE UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
In re:
COLT HOLDING COMPANY
LLC

Debtors.
Chapter 11

The Marine Corps Contract
18. In mid-2012, Colt entered into a multi-year, indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity
contract with the United States Marine Corps (“USMC”) to procure the Close Quarter Battle
Pistol System and associated spares, data, and tools (“USMC Contract”). Decl. of Lee E.
Hoyland, dated Dec. 17, 2015 (“Hoyland Decl.”) ¶ 2. The USMC Contract is contract no.
M67854-12-D-1065 with the Marine Corps Systems Command, which is a component of the
Department of the Navy. Id. ¶ 1.
19. USMC accepted its first delivery order under the USMC Contract in October
2012. Id. ¶ 3. In July 2013, three USMC units fielding the pistols reported that, between two
and three months into operation, the pistols began exhibiting abnormal wearing and chipping in
the Cerakote coating of the grip screw bushing, grip screw, safety, magazine release, magazine
well, and rear sight set screws. Id. Colt personnel confirmed these defects, which create firing
and other operational problems. Id.
20. Between December 2013 and May 2015, USMC program specialists and Colt
engineers conferred to address the defects in the delivered weapons. Id. On May 11, 2015, Colt
submitted a proposed engineering change to substitute an Ionbond protective finish for the
Cerakote finish on future deliveries in order to improve wear and corrosion resistance. Id.
21. During the past several months, USMC and Colt have also discussed ways to
address and cure the 4,096 defective Cerakote-coated pistols delivered to date, but they have not
completed the cure. Id. ¶ 4.
22. The defects related to the Cerakote coating presently affect 4,036 pistols in the
USMC inventory. Id. ¶ 4. The replacement value of these 4,036 defective pistols is $4,237,800

26. To fulfill the requirements of 11 U.S.C. § 365(b)(1) and obtain the United States’
consent to assumption under 41 U.S.C. § 6305 and 11 U.S.C. § 365(c)(1), Colt must do the
following:

Marine Corps Contract: (1) Pay the replacement value of $4,237,800 for the 4,036
defective Cerakote-coated pistols or provide a satisfactory alternative cure; and
(2) provide adequate assurance that the Ionbond-coated pistols delivered under
Engineering Change Proposal 1065-CQB-0002 will conform to contract
specifications.

https://www.kccllc.net/coltdefense/document/1511296151221000000000001
Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:36:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/25/2017 9:50:46 AM EDT
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Goodness the finish is rough.  Is that cerakote?  I can see why they went with ionbond later.
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