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Posted: 3/19/2017 2:45:53 AM EDT
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aren't these pretty abused and with no warranty. non returnable. for 2000 you can get one new.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 2:56:46 AM EDT
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Why is it "decommissioned" so...early? What's wrong with it?
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Posted: 3/19/2017 3:01:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2017 3:48:29 AM EDT
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It's my understanding the cerakoted ones got returned to colt bc the coating was coming off. Now they are using an Ion bond coating. So Colt released them to be sold to the public.
You can get a nicer one for a bit more, but thelse are collectible and rare. Assuming they are legit.. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 3:51:48 AM EDT
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The original ones colt made for civilian sales matched the USMC ones. The newer versions have a different rollmark. The older civilian ones with the Colt USMC rollmark resell for much more than their original msrp.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 4:29:11 AM EDT
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I bought one yesterday. I'll post up pics when it arrives.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 5:34:30 AM EDT
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It's my understanding the cerakoted ones got returned to colt bc the coating was coming off. Now they are using an Ion bond coating. So Colt released them to be sold to the public. You can get a nicer one for a bit more, but thelse are collectible and rare. Assuming they are legit.. I scooped a NIB ion bonded one for less than $1,300 a few months ago. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:14:13 AM EDT
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I caved in and bought the last one that GB had listed in this batch this morning. As a student of military history and a firearms enthusiast, I couldn't pass up the opportunity. If these had gone through the CMP I bet they would have been $2000+.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:51:34 AM EDT
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I just looked again...after there being none for about an hour, there are 49 more listed.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 9:27:19 AM EDT
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I just looked again...after there being none for about an hour, there are 49 more listed. He sold several hundred of them in a matter of hours last night. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 9:28:34 AM EDT
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This. I scooped a NIB ion bonded one for less than $1,300 a few months ago. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 10:29:08 AM EDT
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Why is it "decommissioned" so...early? What's wrong with it? |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 6:41:43 PM EDT
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Did some reading in the 1911 forums in the dedicated thread about the M45A1. One thing not discussed in that 19 page thread is the model number of these guns which are 01070CQB-D.
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Posted: 3/19/2017 7:44:36 PM EDT
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Marines are moving away from them. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:04:15 PM EDT
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I ordered one yesterday morning. Couldn't pass up this opportunity to purchase a real USMC 1911. Look forward to getting it.
S/F- -Len |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:13:28 PM EDT
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Did some reading in the 1911 forums in the dedicated thread about the M45A1. One thing not discussed in that 19 page thread is the model number of these guns which are 01070CQB-D. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:17:57 PM EDT
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MARSOC is the only ones that are moving on from them. They went with the G19. Recon is still using them. There were several problems with them. Its a shame what is happening to them. But I'm glad that they are available to the civilian market. I need to pick one up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Marines are moving away from them. |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 8:27:21 PM EDT
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It's my understanding the cerakoted ones got returned to colt bc the coating was coming off. Now they are using an Ion bond coating. So Colt released them to be sold to the public. You can get a nicer one for a bit more, but thelse are collectible and rare. Assuming they are legit.. Just an FYI: The USMC insignia on the left side of the slide has an "X" that has been laser engraved over it, in order to denote the "decommissioning". |
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Posted: 3/19/2017 9:09:01 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up. I "pulled the trigger" on one a few minutes ago. I look forward to bringing it out to show my ex-Marine BIL who got out a few months ago at the rank of Colonel. This will be a centerpiece in my collection for sure.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:30:24 AM EDT
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Once again Arfcom has cost me money!
I was thinking of buying one of the newer ones at some point anyway but being a military 1911 kind of guy I couldn't pass it up. Right before I clicked on it I kind of thought I should get two and sell off the worse one after the supply dries up but I chickened out. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:41:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:38:46 AM EDT
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Sucks they laser engraved the X.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:45:19 AM EDT
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Sucks they laser engraved the X. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 9:32:40 AM EDT
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Take a long look at the pics and decide if applying paint to a firearm works as well as some think it does.
Pistol + hard polymer holster + dust = aggressive failure of the finish and warranty return. We've already seen this in the field for over 340 years if you look back on weapons in service with the US military. Clean them daily, wipe out the holster, then traverse dusty roads and maneuver in arid terrain, you get extreme finish wear regardless. It happens to M9's serving MP duty on post at Ft Benning, it's definitely going to be accelerated in the 'Stans. We have the poster child of painted guns in harsh service and they don't look pretty anymore. Those pics are likely to turn up in future threads on gun finish and it's not going to sell it well. As for the other part of the puzzle, closely fitted polymer holsters are another issue long known to be a problem for retaining finish. It has it's drawbacks fully illustrated. Colt is getting hammered for a warranty issue that clearly demonstrates the system specs don't work well together. Every one of these guns sold is an example, yet there will be fans who deny it. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:07:33 AM EDT
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Friend of mine who recently separated from USMC and was force recon told me he had been using a 2112 built 1911 for many years and hadn't touched a beretta for about ten years. These were just trickling in when he got out. I. Bought one of the production line versions a couple years ago. Very accurate and reliable gun but quite the brick to carry
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:16:27 AM EDT
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Sucks they laser engraved the X. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 11:59:32 AM EDT
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Yeah really destroys the collectible value of it especially to guys who are former Marines and wanted one. And weren't these custom shop guns to begin with? |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 12:08:36 PM EDT
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I'm a fan and I don't deny it
As a matter of fact I'm glad for it or else I would never get a chance to own one. 
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Posted: 3/20/2017 12:13:01 PM EDT
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Yes, and the recently laid off head of the CCS has confirmed on another forum that these are the legit real deal. Earl
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It appears to be very faint. I ordered one for rareness factor. And weren't these custom shop guns to begin with? |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 12:56:48 PM EDT
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Take a long look at the pics and decide if applying paint to a firearm works as well as some think it does. Pistol + hard polymer holster + dust = aggressive failure of the finish and warranty return. We've already seen this in the field for over 340 years if you look back on weapons in service with the US military. Clean them daily, wipe out the holster, then traverse dusty roads and maneuver in arid terrain, you get extreme finish wear regardless. It happens to M9's serving MP duty on post at Ft Benning, it's definitely going to be accelerated in the 'Stans. We have the poster child of painted guns in harsh service and they don't look pretty anymore. Those pics are likely to turn up in future threads on gun finish and it's not going to sell it well. As for the other part of the puzzle, closely fitted polymer holsters are another issue long known to be a problem for retaining finish. It has it's drawbacks fully illustrated. Colt is getting hammered for a warranty issue that clearly demonstrates the system specs don't work well together. Every one of these guns sold is an example, yet there will be fans who deny it. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 1:26:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Appears to be sold out
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:02:23 PM EDT
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Appears to be sold out 
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Posted: 3/20/2017 2:28:14 PM EDT
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Yeah really destroys the collectible value of it especially to guys who are former Marines and wanted one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sucks they laser engraved the X. If it's decommisioned gun from the military, it could actually increase its value as that showed is a military issues gun, and not an over run or civilian sales gun. If there were a bunch of guns released in this manner without the x and some lawyer decoded later on that they needed to have the x then you might have a case. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:07:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Sold out!
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:09:16 PM EDT
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It would only hurt the collector value if someone did it after. If it's decommisioned gun from the military, it could actually increase its value as that showed is a military issues gun, and not an over run or civilian sales gun. If there were a bunch of guns released in this manner without the x and some lawyer decoded later on that they needed to have the x then you might have a case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sucks they laser engraved the X. If it's decommisioned gun from the military, it could actually increase its value as that showed is a military issues gun, and not an over run or civilian sales gun. If there were a bunch of guns released in this manner without the x and some lawyer decoded later on that they needed to have the x then you might have a case. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 3:46:28 PM EDT
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I believe the USMC being 'laser X' will actually help the value/status of these pistols. 
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Posted: 3/20/2017 4:42:41 PM EDT
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The lasered X will not hurt the value.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 4:45:28 PM EDT
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I'm not worried about it in the slightest. Paid about the same price as a current production commercial one.
Like was stated, it would be one thing if there were documented issued ones in the wild without the "X" but there are not. Want a commercial one that's one thing but these are the only ISSUED ones available and likely will be. These have more value to me at least than a brand new in the box commercial version of the same thing. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 5:17:54 PM EDT
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I'm not worried about it in the slightest. Paid about the same price as a current production commercial one. Like was stated, it would be one thing if there were documented issued ones in the wild without the "X" but there are not. Want a commercial one that's one thing but these are the only ISSUED ones available and likely will be. These have more value to me at least than a brand new in the box commercial version of the same thing. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:18:43 PM EDT
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$1350+ for a beat to shit series 80 1911 ?
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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:31:26 PM EDT
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Pretty cool!
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Posted: 3/20/2017 6:45:20 PM EDT
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$1350+ for a beat to shit series 80 1911 ? $1350 for a military surplus 1911 $1350 for the last 1911 in history to be issued to the US Marines. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 7:01:36 PM EDT
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$1350+ for a beat to shit series 80 1911 ? 
We get it, you don't understand, missed out or couldn't afford one. Maybe you're just trying to be edgy? You should see the shape of some of my other GI guns and what I paid for them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 8:09:56 PM EDT
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$1350+ for a beat to shit series 80 1911 ? |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 8:15:41 PM EDT
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There's somebody turning a profit on them already here $1699 and almost 7 days left. Probably doesn't even have them in hand yet as it looks like the same pics.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 9:23:17 PM EDT
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There's somebody turning a profit on them already here $1699 and almost 7 days left. Probably doesn't even have them in hand yet as it looks like the same pics. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:06:22 PM EDT
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Are these coming with the pelican/otis? Or a standard box
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:16:34 PM EDT
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I bought one for my dad who was in before I was born. He's pretty excited about it.
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Posted: 3/20/2017 10:46:35 PM EDT
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And weren't these custom shop guns to begin with? Anyone who thinks otherwise can pull the grips and see if they have CCS stamped under the grips. No CCS = not a Colt custom shop gun. |
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Posted: 3/20/2017 11:04:12 PM EDT
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No. The contract guns all came off the standard production line. Anyone who thinks otherwise can pull the grips and see if they have CCS stamped under the grips. No CCS = not a Colt custom shop gun. |
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