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Posted: 9/7/2010 1:01:21 PM EDT
I have a chance of getting a springfield 1911a1 for $500 w/ 7mags and holdster. It has 300 shots fired through it. He bought it for 650 plus all the mags 2 months ago. Is this a good deal? And how is the quality on these. Thanks everyone

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 2:11:14 PM EDT
great pistols. jump on it or tell us where we can get it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 2:20:48 PM EDT
The price acceptability depends on whether its a G.I. model or Mil-Spec. Both have 1911-A! rollmarked on the slide––at least the catalog shows them that way. The Mil-Spec (model PB9108L) sells new for $599 (parkerized) but they are frequently marked up from there. If you're being offered a true Mil-Spec (not G.I.Mil-Spec as that's the G.I. model) the $500 is a good price assuming good condition as you note. If its a G.I. (model PW9108L or G.l. Mil-Spec) they sell new for $499 so a used price of $500 wouldn't be so hot. The Mil-Spec is well worth the extra $$, although both are fine pistols for the money.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:00:29 PM EDT
I'd buy it
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:11:25 PM EDT
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:31:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By skipsan:
The Mil-Spec is well worth the extra $$, although both are fine pistols for the money.


Depends on the magazines and holsters. If they are Wilson Combat magazines and a nice holster that can be worth big bucks. If they are typical SA 7 round magazines and a cheap plastic holster I'd offer $450.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:31:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By C_Rion:
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.


Um, no.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 3:43:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C_Rion:
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.


Thank you for constantly trolling the Springfield threads.

OP, do you know what model it is?

Go here for the newer models ––––> http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:30:59 PM EDT
Its a mil spec. It comes with 3 standard mags and 3 10 round mags. It also comes with the original holdster, one for under the arm, the same one for the belt and one that goes inside the pants.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:48:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PR2010:
Its a mil spec. It comes with 3 standard mags and 3 10 round mags. It also comes with the original holdster, one for under the arm, the same one for the belt and one that goes inside the pants.





Both feet............now !

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:49:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 5:50:53 PM EDT by 68_Mustang]

Originally Posted By C_Rion:
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.

Imbel is a great Arsenal.

I love my Imbel framed loaded and Imbel FALs sell at a premium
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:04:56 PM EDT
I love Springfields. The Imbels are great. I shoot them all the time, and I cannot tell the difference. Go for it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:05:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 68_Mustang:

Originally Posted By C_Rion:
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.

Imbel is a great Arsenal.

I love my Imbel framed loaded and Imbel FALs sell at a premium


Just picked it up ill probably go to the range this weekend to try it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:06:58 PM EDT
Is it a NM prefix pistol ? SS bbl bushing ?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:20:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:

Originally Posted By C_Rion:
Rebadged Brazillian Imbel knockoff of a 1911.


Thank you for constantly trolling the Springfield threads.

OP, do you know what model it is?

Go here for the newer models ––––> http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php



Guy, im not "trolling", that statement is %100 percent pure truth. If you don't like the fact that someone is telling you exactly what a springfield 1911 is, well I guess you have a personal issue.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:02:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 3:06:32 AM EDT by WIZZO_ARAKM14]
Originally Posted By C_Rion:

Guy, im not "trolling", that statement is %100 percent pure truth. If you don't like the fact that someone is telling you exactly what a springfield 1911 is, well I guess you have a personal issue.



Well, have fun with your Socialist UAW-made pistols then. I'll stick to my options.

It's just amazing that people think an Imbel FAL is the epitome of well built construction and good materials, but if a 1911 rolls out of the same factory, it's imported trash. Gun snobs need to get over themselves.

Sorry for derailing the thread a little PR2010. Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that mil-spec. Those seem hard to come by as they're typically in higher demand because the features they have on them make them easier to shoot and easier/cheaper to modify if you choose to do that. Make sure to post some pics when you get it!

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Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:26:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WIZZO_ARAKM14:
Originally Posted By C_Rion:

Guy, im not "trolling", that statement is %100 percent pure truth. If you don't like the fact that someone is telling you exactly what a springfield 1911 is, well I guess you have a personal issue.



Well, have fun with your Socialist UAW-made pistols then. I'll stick to my options.

It's just amazing that people think an Imbel FAL is the epitome of well built construction and good materials, but if a 1911 rolls out of the same factory, it's imported trash. Gun snobs need to get over themselves.

Sorry for derailing the thread a little PR2010. Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on that mil-spec. Those seem hard to come by as they're typically in higher demand because the features they have on them make them easier to shoot and easier/cheaper to modify if you choose to do that. Make sure to post some pics when you get it!

Got it right next to me but im on my phone. As soon as i get my pc fixed ill post some pics. Thanks for the opinions!

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Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:45:10 PM EDT
I have a Springfield MilSPec and like it very much. After the break in period, about 300 rounds, it has run 100%. Never had a Colt's do that.

Lot's of builders of 1911 pistols around here really prize the Springfield frame and choose it over all others for the starting point to a race gun.

I've had occasion to avail myself of Springfield's customer service and learned their service is outstanding!!! I would never hesitate to purchase one of their products after experiencing their quality service.

I'd jump on the deal you describe. In fact, it's one of those you should never walk away from in the first place in my book.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 6:09:13 PM EDT
To the OP, good pickup. looking forward to the pictures

Originally Posted By C_Rion:

Guy, im not "trolling", that statement is %100 percent pure truth. If you don't like the fact that someone is telling you exactly what a springfield 1911 is, well I guess you have a personal issue.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on springfield's professional model.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:55:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By skipsan:
The price acceptability depends on whether its a G.I. model or Mil-Spec. Both have 1911-A! rollmarked on the slide––at least the catalog shows them that way. The Mil-Spec (model PB9108L) sells new for $599 (parkerized) but they are frequently marked up from there. If you're being offered a true Mil-Spec (not G.I.Mil-Spec as that's the G.I. model) the $500 is a good price assuming good condition as you note. If its a G.I. (model PW9108L or G.l. Mil-Spec) they sell new for $499 so a used price of $500 wouldn't be so hot. The Mil-Spec is well worth the extra $$, although both are fine pistols for the money.


Is the model number stamped on the frame?

I have a similar deal offered to me - a Springfield 1911 .45 - in trade for a Winchester Model 70.

I have a Colt 1911A1 Series 80 but I don't know anything about Springfields.

What should I ask the guy about it?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 8:49:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By diggerwolf:
Originally Posted By skipsan:
The price acceptability depends on whether its a G.I. model or Mil-Spec. Both have 1911-A! rollmarked on the slide––at least the catalog shows them that way. The Mil-Spec (model PB9108L) sells new for $599 (parkerized) but they are frequently marked up from there. If you're being offered a true Mil-Spec (not G.I.Mil-Spec as that's the G.I. model) the $500 is a good price assuming good condition as you note. If its a G.I. (model PW9108L or G.l. Mil-Spec) they sell new for $499 so a used price of $500 wouldn't be so hot. The Mil-Spec is well worth the extra $$, although both are fine pistols for the money.


Is the model number stamped on the frame?

I have a similar deal offered to me - a Springfield 1911 .45 - in trade for a Winchester Model 70.

I have a Colt 1911A1 Series 80 but I don't know anything about Springfields.

What should I ask the guy about it?

the model is not stamped on the frame
just ask him which model it is

GI - similar to the USGI colts
Milspec - slightly upgraded, easy to spot with the slanted slide serration

just go on springfields site and look at the models

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 10:22:34 AM EDT
Another way to tell:

A Springfield G.I. model will have a serial number that begins with "ww..............". I believe this model also comes from the factory in a green plastic box.

A Mil-Spec model will have a serial number that begins with "N...................." OR "NM........................" and comes in a blue box.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 3:26:41 PM EDT
Guy sent a pic. SN appears to be N338831. Mil-Spec model?

Link Posted: 9/11/2010 3:53:11 PM EDT
Definitely a Mil-Spec. Brazilian variety.

Its had a little work––the hammer and grip safety are non stock. Don't think the long trigger is either. Grips as well. The MSH may be aftermarket as well. Can't recall whether curved or straight is stock.

All-in-all a very nice looking pistol.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 3:58:02 PM EDT
call springfield and they can give you the info on the gun based on the serial number.
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