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Posted: 3/15/2006 2:38:12 PM EDT
I have $750 to spend I have a 1911 and a bersa .380, what next a .22lr so I can practice more or a .357 magnum just cause, or a 9mm PX4 or 92a1. Our a large caliber hunting revolver
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 2:56:04 PM EDT
If you'll be hunting, then you should invest in a good .44, preferably a S&W. I'm not sure what the prices on a .454 are, but if you can find one of those (Redhawk Alaskan, I'm thinking... that's what it's called, right?) from Ruger, you'll have a nice revolver. I've yet to find a S&W .500 for less than a grand.

Otherwise, I'd get a good DA .357 revolver. S&W, Taurus, Ruger, etc. etc.... all good.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 3:22:28 PM EDT
IMO, a revolver doesn't do anything you can't do better with an auto unless you want some huge caliber to handgun hunt with.

My first choice would be a GLOCK 19. Simple, easy to shoot well, reliable as death, holds a lot of ammo but still easily concealable. For $750 you can buy the GLOCK, several 15 and 33 round mags, and 2000 rounds of ammo.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 3:43:41 PM EDT
Sell your Bersa, then you'd have $800.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:18:56 PM EDT
You know, I've gotta go with triburst on this one. You have a .45, if you're getting another handgun I'd go 9mm. Glock 19 or a CPO Sig are my suggestions.

Of course, I hunt and need something with a bit more ooomph to legally shoot a deer here in MN. I switch between a Smith and Wesson 28 .357 and a Smith and Wesson Mountain Gun in .44 mag. Nothing like a S&W wheelgun for tromping around in the woods.

But if you're just thinking about a shooter/self-defense auto, I'd get a Glock 19. Not much that baby can't do, that you'd want to get done with a handgun.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:21:59 PM EDT
If you shop online and shop carefully, you could get a

Ruger Blackhawk in .44 mag (for hunting-- about $450 )

AND

a nice semi .22lr (for practice -- about $250 )

with a few bucks left for shipping or transfer fees.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:42:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Sell your Bersa, then you'd have $800.



Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:49:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:50:37 PM EDT
Just working within the parameters of his original question here...

Between a 9mm Px4 or a nice .357, I'd go with the .357.

Pretty much the best combo of stopping power (insomuch as capable with a handgun) and shootability around.

Now, working outside that, I'd go with a 10mm Glock. In fact I did, haha. If you must get a 9mm, I'd say go with the G17... she handles quite nicely.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 5:14:18 PM EDT
Glock 20 10mm
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:34:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Sell your Bersa, then you'd have $800.
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If I was a noob and never had picked up a gun in my life id try and defend it but after I ordered it picked it up and saw the triggers operation included an exposed peice that operates the trigger, the hiliary hole, and mag disconect. the only thing I can say on its behalf that it has never jammed.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 7:00:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:19:43 PM EDT
IF you bought the RIGHT 1911, you have the lion's share of recreation dept and all of the self defense dept covered. you already have a BUG. Therefore you either go for the .22 for the remainder of recreation & ammo savings OR a large caliber weapon (.44 mag) dedicated to hunting.

People that have all these different caliber, different brand self defense choices irk me. trigger time is a commodity for all of us (and for many of us it's more rare & precious than for others). For self-defense, it only makes sense to take the caliber & weapon you work well with and train exclusively with it. Different calibers and ergonomics are distractions and take away from training that could be best spent on your strong weapon. When it comes to impressing people at the range it is great to be good with a multitude of weapons. When it comes to self- defense though I'd rather be clumsy with a 92fs, G19, and a P220, but unbelievably deadly with a 1911, than be decent (and only decent) with all of them.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:21:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

My first choice would be a GLOCK 19. Simple, easy to shoot well, reliable as death, holds a lot of ammo but still easily concealable. For $750 you can buy the GLOCK, several 15 and 33 round mags, and 2000 rounds of ammo.




+1000
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 4:29:23 AM EDT
Step1: sell the Bersa

Step2: Add the funds from Bersa sale to your 750

Step 3: Buy a Glock 19, spare mags, good holster, ammo

Step 4: Buy a .22 pistol with the leftover money

Step 5: Shoot the hell out of both.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 6:24:47 AM EDT
I think you need to decide what you need it for. Hunting, plinking, self defense, zombies...

And $750 should be enough for many quality guns in each catagory.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 6:39:35 AM EDT
For hunting, a SW 44 mag.
For woods defense, a Glock 20 or 29 10mm with full load Corbon or Double Tap ammo.
For practice, a Sig P226 in 9mm.
9mm Winchester White Box (WWB) Value Pack 100 rounds per box a little over $11/box at Walmart.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 8:01:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/16/2006 8:02:01 AM EDT by jollyroger]

Originally Posted By pulpsmack:
.... When it comes to self- defense though I'd rather be clumsy with a 92fs, G19, and a P220, but unbelievably deadly with a 1911, than be decent (and only decent) with all of them.



You make a good point. But in my case I think I'm still searching for what is truely "the best" for me. So I buy a pistol, holster and tons of ammo. I carry it around the desert and mountains (and soon CCW) for a long time to find all the littel quirks, things I like and things I dont. I shoot the piss out of it and really use the thing.

Although I'm pretty damn confident in my 1911 (accurate and reliable) I still want to acquire an HK USP, Sig P220, and a Glock. Just to see if any of them are a bit better for me.

Besides having more guns around is never a bad thing. A guy can have his self defense, combat handgun and still have others around for fun. For example I am "unbelievably deadly" with my AR but you wont see me ditching my AK's or SKS's anytime soon.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 12:08:04 PM EDT
do you have a CCW?

If not:
Get a CCW and you should still have enough left over for a nice sidearm, holster and ammo
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 1:05:09 PM EDT
I know the guy that's selling this.

He's a good guy, and the gun is in excellent condition.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=88&t=305042
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 2:12:59 PM EDT
Something in 9x19 just for the cheap ammo... used Glocks, Berettas, Smiths, and even SIGs can be had for $400 or less in great shape.

Put another $200 towards a .22 top end for your 1911, and then spend the leftover $100 on Winchester 9mm at Walmart.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 4:28:05 PM EDT
Here is an idea...

Get a 10/22 AND a .22 pistol and have $$$ left over.

Continue saving while researching the other items.

The .22 rifle and pistol will provide hours of fun for little cost on the ammo.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 12:20:40 AM EDT
CZ75B, 97B or P01.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 4:04:40 AM EDT
I don't know if you have any need/want for one.. but I do really like my Walther P99. And every person who has seen it at the range or shot it likes it too ;)
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 6:30:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 6:31:35 AM EDT by warlord]

Originally Posted By triburst1:
IMO, a revolver doesn't do anything you can't do better with an auto unless you want some huge caliber to handgun hunt with.
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I respectfully disagree. An accurate revolver generally can shoot 5-shot 1" groups at 75 ft, ie S&W 686. Many revolvers can generally hold a 2" group, Rugers, Dan Wessons etc. 2" groups is considered excellent for auto-pistols, which can cost twice that of a revolver, which are in the realm of semi-custom guns.

What brand/model gun did you buy? Get a bunch of extra mags.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 6:56:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
IMO, a revolver doesn't do anything useful you can't do better with an auto unless you want some huge caliber to handgun hunt with.
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I respectfully disagree. An accurate revolver generally can shoot 5-shot 1" groups at 75 ft, ie S&W 686. Many revolvers can generally hold a 2" group, Rugers, Dan Wessons etc. 2" groups is considered excellent for auto-pistols, which can cost twice that of a revolver, which are in the realm of semi-custom guns.




Is that better?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 8:09:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
IMO, a revolver doesn't do anything useful you can't do better with an auto unless you want some huge caliber to handgun hunt with.
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I respectfully disagree. An accurate revolver generally can shoot 5-shot 1" groups at 75 ft, ie S&W 686. Many revolvers can generally hold a 2" group, Rugers, Dan Wessons etc. 2" groups is considered excellent for auto-pistols, which can cost twice that of a revolver, which are in the realm of semi-custom guns.




Is that better?




Hmm... wouldn't agree completely. Revolvers are stupid simple, they don't fail (unless you try REALLY HARD) and you'll never, ever have to worry about whether or not you'll have "feeding" issues.

A .357 has the distinct advantage of having both a powerful killin' round (the old .357) or a cheap plinking round, the .38. Though it could easily be argued that 9mm is just as cheap as .38 spl.

Revolvers are built to take a beating, and besides... they are, to me, just about as comfortable as it gets. As damn well they should be, really... they don't need to worry about fitting a magazine in the grip.

Though honestly, if it's a carry gun... I'd go with a semi-auto in .45 or 10mm, myself.
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