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Posted: 3/8/2006 6:45:54 PM EDT
Which gun would you take for home defense and why.

SiG Sauer P220 .45ACP w/10-Round Magazine

or...

1911A1 .45ACP?
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 6:51:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2006 6:51:53 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]
what kinda 1911A1 (brand)?

Link Posted: 3/8/2006 7:21:59 PM EDT
Neither. The handgun is a weapon of convenience and all are a compromise. Intruders in my home will be met with rifle fire.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 8:04:54 PM EDT
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 8:14:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bigjross_2002:
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.



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Link Posted: 3/8/2006 8:17:51 PM EDT
sig 220
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 9:55:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fglocker_Plz:
Which gun would you take for home defense and why.
SiG Sauer P220 .45ACP w/10-Round Magazine
or...
1911A1 .45ACP?



Which ever is closest; because it is closest.

On a side note: Does the 1911 have a 10 round mag? They make 10rnd 1911 mags you know.

Cheers
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 11:21:44 PM EDT
220
Link Posted: 3/8/2006 11:58:38 PM EDT
SA MC Operator 1911
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 12:00:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 12:34:52 AM EDT
The 220
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 2:02:10 AM EDT
Kimber Warrior with X200A. The best would be a short AR.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 3:36:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SGB:
Seeing as I sold my two P220's it would have to be one of my Eight 1911's



Although it may be considered blasphemy by some, I sold my 1911 for a Sig P220. I don't regret it for a minute
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 3:40:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
what kinda 1911A1 (brand)?




+1 and there is nothing wrong with either as a home defense weapon as long as you practice enough to be proficient with it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:43:58 AM EDT
SIG P220
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:50:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BSheppard:
Kimber Warrior with X200A. The best would be a short AR.



+1 but substitute Streamlight M6 (cause that is what I have)
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:55:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Neither. The handgun is a weapon of convenience and all are a compromise. Intruders in my home will be met with rifle fire.



Thank you, Sir.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:56:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigjross_2002:
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.



Link Posted: 3/9/2006 4:59:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Neither. The handgun is a weapon of convenience and all are a compromise. Intruders in my home will be met with rifle fire.



Thank you, Sir.



My pleasure, Sir.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 5:03:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By bigjross_2002:
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.




+
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 5:20:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GUNGUY1911:

Originally Posted By markm:

Originally Posted By bigjross_2002:
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.




+



Link Posted: 3/9/2006 5:39:39 AM EDT
Anything is better then nothing... I would likely take the SIG out of the two BUT my nightstand gun is a as follows:

Glock 22 with internal Lasermax and ITI M3 LED

The 15-rd 40 S&W mags provide good capacity with significant knockdown...
The lasermax provides accurate aiming reference without the need to be looking down the sights...
The M3 LED allows enough light to operate a phone or secure a family...
The M3 Weapon light is quite capable of blinding an opponent inside the house or to illuminate them before firing...

The weapon is the start of your planning... how you can accessorize it or equipe yourself to handle a situation in your environment is the real key to picking the best weapon for your home... I keep the Glock on top of a nightstand next to the bed and a Rem 870 loaded with #4 Buck within easy access. From there I also have my trusty SAR-1 with four loaded 30-rd 7.62x39 mags in case I feal I need more firepower...
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 7:13:47 AM EDT
220 !!
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 7:56:13 AM EDT
Sig 220. Has a higher chance of being reliable out of the box.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 10:55:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Neither. The handgun is a weapon of convenience and all are a compromise. Intruders in my home will be met with rifle fire.



+Mucho on the shotgun.

I think the argument goes something like "Try waking up in the middle of the night and fumbling with a weapon and getting a clean shot off". IMO the chances of a successful defense would lie with the scatter gun approach. For real CQ, you can also forego the use of deadly force with the butt end if warranted.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:14:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:26:39 PM EDT
hmm..

never really put much thought into it but my P228 is what sits on my bedside table with one of those kinetic energy flashlights.

no battery worries just shake it and click it on.

The Sig is what feels the most comfortable in my hand. It sits in condition 2 because I'm an early morning flailer...the last thing I want to grab while angrily fumbling for my alarm is an unholstered sig with a round chambered..

I need a holster!

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with all that mentioned I'd gladly take a 1911 in 9mm with i cocked and locked.

Contrary to the popular demographic I feel SAFER with a pistol cocked and locked than with a heavy DA trigger. the only reason my BHP clone isn't on nightstand duty is.....

weight
ban state 10 rounders (I need mags)
It's only got about 300 rounds down the pipe and already I've had a few stovepipes.
My hammer still bites and the last thing I want in a SD situation is another distraction.

not a huge .45 fan... but that could be because my arms look like toothpicks and I've only ever shot corbon +P out of a commander sized SS colt 1911. I really need to shoot some soft shooting .45ACP out of a real deal 5" 1911. I have a feeling I'd like it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:36:18 PM EDT
Neither.
A colt commando clone is my primary and a security six in .357 magnum is my back up.
Link Posted: 3/9/2006 1:46:35 PM EDT
I use a 10MM Witness....
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 2:26:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/10/2006 2:27:12 AM EDT by ADaughen]
My 1911 comes with 14rds of .45 in the magazines... I'll take it over a "puny" 10rd Sig. :p

I do like those Sigs though. Grandpa and Dad had them as service pistols If I had some free $$ back in the day I'd be sleeping with twins. Twin Sig P226s.

Really, whichever the shooter is more comfortable with. My fiance... she'd be backing me up with the Moss 500 or the USPc .40
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 5:46:00 AM EDT
SIG 220.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 6:15:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigjross_2002:
Why a rifle? A 12 Gauge with 00 buck is the best when it comes down to knockdown power.





USP Tactical wearing an M2 with Hornady 230grn +p JHP's

12 rounds ought to be enough.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 12:55:35 PM EDT
Considering my SA .45 has had some custom work done and the trigger pull lightened substantially, I opt for my Sig 220. I like the fact that the trigger takes a little more effort to pull in the likely event this hypothetical meeting becomes stressful. I believe an accidental discharge is inexcusable. The Sig may not be as target shooting accurate as my Sig, however for a "combat" pistol/sceaniorio it's top notch and plenty accurate, IMHO.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 8:39:59 PM EDT
M1 Super 90 with sure fire light--if for some reason I can't get to this, only then will I reach for a hand gun (229- .357)
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 3:05:19 AM EDT
SA 1911. Until I get to the AR.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 3:20:04 AM EDT
1911A1 .45ACP
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 4:18:27 AM EDT
Neither, I'd prefer my USP or Desert Eagle.
But I'll grab my 1911 if I can get to it first.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 5:29:05 AM EDT
Neither is a bad choice, as handguns go. But +1 the rifle (if possible).

But to answer your question, the SIG 220R for me please.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 6:43:30 AM EDT
P220
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 12:38:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BigGeorgeC:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
Neither. The handgun is a weapon of convenience and all are a compromise. Intruders in my home will be met with rifle fire.



+Mucho on the shotgun.

I think the argument goes something like "Try waking up in the middle of the night and fumbling with a weapon and getting a clean shot off". IMO the chances of a successful defense would lie with the scatter gun approach. For real CQ, you can also forego the use of deadly force with the butt end if warranted.



have you shot a shotgun? do you know how it patterns? it's a very tight group a the distances in your home
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 12:56:47 PM EDT
My go-to handgun is a P220R with a Surefire M100 (9v 225 lumens).
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 1:46:50 PM EDT
The best home defense weapon is the one you can get to.
At close range a hangun is best, pick your favorite then practice with it.For most purposes a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with bird shot is best,it will not penetrate walls and hit your kids or nieghbors.signed Rifleman55
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 2:39:10 PM EDT
I don't own either!

I would choose the P220 of the two.

I would of course choose another gun in my collection.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 3:23:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rifleman55:
For most purposes a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with bird shot is best.




...for defense against violent, attacking birds.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 5:13:35 PM EDT

For most purposes a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with bird shot is best,it will not penetrate walls and hit your kids or nieghbors.signed Rifleman55


WOW!! Is that a false statement! Have you tried this yourself for a penetration tests?? In the extreme close distances in a home the birdshot still housed the cup would cleanly go through dywall multiple times and strike whatever is on the other side. Your statement is false and simply untrue. Please don't say things that a person who might not know the differences would take for the truth. Shotguns as used in a home are more MIS-understood than any other weapon. No flame intended just voicing the facts.
Link Posted: 3/11/2006 5:27:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/11/2006 5:29:00 PM EDT by JaketheSnake]

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By Rifleman55:
For most purposes a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with bird shot is best.




...for defense against violent, attacking birds.



Link Posted: 3/11/2006 5:44:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rifleman55:
The best home defense weapon is the one you can get to.
At close range a hangun is best, pick your favorite then practice with it.For most purposes a 12 ga. shotgun loaded with bird shot is best,it will not penetrate walls and hit your kids or nieghbors.signed Rifleman55



Only if you're ignorant, or in a hitchcock film.
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 7:10:16 PM EDT
Wild Murdering Birds... they creep me out man...
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