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Posted: 2/23/2006 8:50:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 8:52:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 8:53:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ajaka:
Who gives a crap?

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:07:56 PM EDT
Sad just sad.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:12:27 PM EDT
Who cares?
.45 is not the end-all, be-all handgun cartrdige.
When it comes down to it, handguns, and handgun cartridges are highly personal choices.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:12:48 PM EDT
Folks, be kind to those with disabilities.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:13:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:13:37 PM EDT
awww can the little baby not handle the .45, awe just stick to 9mm, it ill be okay
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:19:58 PM EDT
girly man shit you think this was the pit

you can shoot mine if your every on the conservative side of the state, I have both the 45ACP and the mighty 10mm
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:21:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2006 9:26:37 PM EDT by Green0]
Most 1911's don't really shoot well. A lot of them aren't put together properly.

If you had a Kimber or better yet a Les Baer or equivalent to fire and still had problems grouping inside 5-7inches offhand at 25yds, my advice would be to grip the handgun in your firing hand:

make sure you grip high into the trigger guard and feel your middle finger pressuring up against the trigger guard and the web of your hand up against the beavertail,
roll the heel of that hand into the stocks so you can feel pressure down by the lower grip screw and squeeze your fingers till the nuckles go white and back off till color returns
(You should now feel pressure against the backstrap)

raise your left thumb [assumimg gun is not loaded and the hammer is down] and bring it down on top of the safety pulling down with your thumb and exerting pressure on the safety.

Before you fire visually check to ensure the web and all parts of your hand are free of where the slide will travel-- that's my special part-- that way you can make sure that your hands aren't too fat or something and that you are going to go home with all your skin and muscle intact

now wrap your support hand's fingers into the "valleys" between the fingers of your firing hand and again squeeze to white nuckles and back off till color appears; you should feel the lower and upper heel of your hand putting pressure on the stocks from the bottom to the top

Now bring your support thumb into contact with the dustcover near the slide-stop pin and press inward on the frame near the location of the pin's center [assuming you are right handed] as if you are left you may not want to press directly on the pin.]

That's a firing grip-- you should do that 50 times to log it into muscle memory and make it more natural. The gun should feel like it's in a vise.

Now when you raise it in a weaver or iscoseles to shoot if you focus on the front sight and realize it is shaking, relax your grip enough it stops shaking and the hard part SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER-- I'm not kidding you can't know exactly when it is going to go off and shoot well- at least not initially.

If you follow thse steps and have a Baer with a trigger weight or around 3-5lbs maximum you should be able to print a group of less than 5 inches offhand at 25yds.

With the Kimber it might be closer to 7.5inches but either group is probably doing well and with time it will get better.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:25:01 PM EDT
Try a Para-Ordnance Tac Four. I love the LDA trigger.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:44:12 PM EDT
Filth!
Burn the witch!

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 9:49:55 PM EDT
Are you even a REAL American?



Just kidding, please remove your finger from the LOCK/BANNED button...please....sir...I beg you.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:04:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:15:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:18:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:22:56 PM EDT
Hell, I got my first 1911 last month. It's your turn.

____________________________




Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:24:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 2:45:41 AM EDT
<--- No .45's

I am planning on correcting the issue in the near future, however.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 2:48:54 AM EDT
So what are you waiting for? Go get one. Or in the spirit of AR15.COM, GET TWO.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 3:05:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...



What hinders you from shooting a 1911 effectively ?

Sights? - change them to anything you like
Grips? - wood ,rubber,plastic-thin,thick,even finger grooves are available.
weight?- can vary from almost airweight to boat anchor.
Ammo? - even in .45 there is a wide range.

About the ONLY thing you can't easily change on a 1911 is the grip angle.

You need a custom 1911

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 3:58:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...



I cant believe you dont own a Sig P220. Have you not shot one ?

Everybody has a
10/22
12G
1911
Ar15
and then they buy a P220 and stick the 1911 in the safe.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 4:09:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 4:18:01 AM EDT by triburst1]
I see no problem with that at all. I don't own or want a .45 pistol. I have never shot 1911s well either, as they just don't fit my hand properly. I buy my firearms based on a specific need for a type of weapon. I just never cared about having a certain gun or caliber just to say I had one.

I have been carrying the same CCW pistol (GLOCK 19) everyday for six years. I shoot it extremely well, and I have 100% confidence in my weapon and my skill with it. I have achieved a state of familiarity with this gun where drawing and firing it feels like a bodily function. Buying a totally different type of gun in a different caliber can do nothing but fuck that up to some degree.

If I was going to buy a larger caliber handgun, it would be a 10mm and not some pansy-ass .45.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:08:59 AM EDT
I don’t think that you can start a thread like this and expect anything else than to receive the well deserved ridicule and insults.

I have a Kimber TLE/II and a Sig 220 and even though I’m a limp wristed wimp, I still feel that it is my duty as an American male to shoot them even though I smack myself in the face each time I pull the trigger.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:18:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AKsRule:


What hinders you from shooting a 1911 effectively ?

Sights? - change them to anything you like
Grips? - wood ,rubber,plastic-thin,thick,even finger grooves are available.
weight?- can vary from almost airweight to boat anchor.
Ammo? - even in .45 there is a wide range.

About the ONLY thing you can't easily change on a 1911 is the grip angle.

You need a custom 1911




For me it is partly the grip angle and partly the grip shape. The wide but thin shape just never felt right for me. I also don't like the idea of a 7-8 round gun for self defense. That wouldn't as be as big an issue for military or SWAT applications when you get to carry an M16 and have 12 guys backing you up.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:26:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 5:27:23 AM EDT by FALARAK]




Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:26:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:39:29 AM EDT
45's have a different feel and are fun to shoot.. Try a Sig 220 or 220ST..
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:01:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:03:24 AM EDT
I don't own one either. I will at some point.

Right now I'm holding out. kk7sm keeps trying to tempt me with his super sweet colts and kimber though.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:09:04 AM EDT

As soon as I quit jerking the trigger I shot just fine with a 4in .45ACP (1911)
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:53:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Glockhappy:
Filth!
Burn the witch!




So.. if she weighs... as much as a duck.... she's a witch?

BURN!!!!!!!! BURN THE WITCH!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:55:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By danpass:
As soon as I quit jerking the trigger I shot just fine with a 4in .45ACP (1911)



O RLY?
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:57:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sysfailur:

Originally Posted By danpass:
As soon as I quit jerking the trigger I shot just fine with a 4in .45ACP (1911)



O RLY?



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:06:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:
I see no problem with that at all. I don't own or want a .45 pistol. I have never shot 1911s well either, as they just don't fit my hand properly. I buy my firearms based on a specific need for a type of weapon. I just never cared about having a certain gun or caliber just to say I had one.

I have been carrying the same CCW pistol (GLOCK 19) everyday for six years. I shoot it extremely well, and I have 100% confidence in my weapon and my skill with it. I have achieved a state of familiarity with this gun where drawing and firing it feels like a bodily function. Buying a totally different type of gun in a different caliber can do nothing but fuck that up to some degree.

If I was going to buy a larger caliber handgun, it would be a 10mm and not some pansy-ass .45.



blasphemy another burn the witch

girly man with small hands

how you going to handle a 10mm when your scare of a 45





just hacking on ya, dont take it personal, you wussy
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:59:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2006 2:01:22 PM EDT by triburst1]

Originally Posted By V-Rod:

Originally Posted By triburst1:
I see no problem with that at all. I don't own or want a .45 pistol. I have never shot 1911s well either, as they just don't fit my hand properly. I buy my firearms based on a specific need for a type of weapon. I just never cared about having a certain gun or caliber just to say I had one.

I have been carrying the same CCW pistol (GLOCK 19) everyday for six years. I shoot it extremely well, and I have 100% confidence in my weapon and my skill with it. I have achieved a state of familiarity with this gun where drawing and firing it feels like a bodily function. Buying a totally different type of gun in a different caliber can do nothing but fuck that up to some degree.

If I was going to buy a larger caliber handgun, it would be a 10mm and not some pansy-ass .45.



blasphemy another burn the witch

girly man with small hands

how you going to handle a 10mm when your scare of a 45





just hacking on ya, dont take it personal, you wussy



Not scared of a .45, just don't have any use for one. IMO, a .45 that could be a 10mm is a waste. It's like buying a .380 that's the same size as a 9mm.

I had a 10mm before, a S&W 1006. I loved the 10mm, but I didn't like the Smith so I sold it. I like the GLOCK 20 and 29 but they are too fat for my hands. If GLOCK made a single stack 10mm, I would buy it tomorrow.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 3:09:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...



And you call yourself a supporter of the second ammendment?

Just go vote for Hillary, ya Lib!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 3:26:38 PM EDT
I see no problem here.

I've owned a 1911 and a Glock-30, and have sold both. Had a .40 as well, and sold that too.

I shoot 9mm semi-auto handguns exclusively now, and couldn't be happier. Much easier to stockpile 9mm, and probably only marginally worse for defense than a .45 round for round, but with lots more rounds per mag to make up for being marginally worse.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 4:07:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...




A Sig 220 will solve all of your problems
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 5:42:07 PM EDT
Every American needs at least one .45!
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:02:23 PM EDT
Communist! Every american should own at least ONE .45
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:11:27 PM EDT
I always wanted one but still have never shot a .45 ACP its one of the rounds that have escaped me. When I turned 21 I bought a GLOCK 22 . and a SIG 226. To have the high cap mags but still I am thinking about the new XD in .45 ACP.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 8:12:53 PM EDT
I hear Airsoft's are cheap these days
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 1:47:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...




Then I would recomend buying another .45 like the G21, HKUSP, SIG 220, CZ97B (MY FAVORITE), .45XD, .45 babey eagle or a Ruger P345. 1911s are fantastic pistols but so are some others. Get another one.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 5:44:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 5:45:04 AM EDT by Sgt_Gold]
Keep tellin yourself that, girly man


Originally Posted By ED_P:
I see no problem here.

I've owned a 1911 and a Glock-30, and have sold both. Had a .40 as well, and sold that too.

I shoot 9mm semi-auto handguns exclusively now, and couldn't be happier. Much easier to stockpile 9mm, and probably only marginally worse for defense than a .45 round for round, but with lots more rounds per mag to make up for being marginally worse.


Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:18:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:


I have never personally owned a 1911.

I did have a 4506 at one point.

I have never shot well with a 1911.



Discuss...




Sorry to hear that, 1911's a really great guns!

Travis
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 2:22:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By danpass:

Originally Posted By sysfailur:

Originally Posted By danpass:
As soon as I quit jerking the trigger I shot just fine with a 4in .45ACP (1911)



O RLY?






I was just pointing out that usually not jerking a gun will get pretty much anyone to shoot a handgun fine.

Ya know "As soon as I quit jerking my .22 I shot just fine with it!" heh
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 2:37:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 3:50:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 3:51:03 PM EDT by RSF45]

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
Some of you guys equate .45 = 1911.



What do you mean the 1911 isn't the only model?
Do you have a range nearby that rents handguns? If so, try a couple out.
I love the 1911, as well as my Glock 21.
The G21 does have a fat grip, so that may not be good for you, or go the P220 route, also a great gun.
Then again, you could just skip the semi route and get a S&W 625.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 5:35:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2006 5:36:04 PM EDT by KillAgain]

I believe you could get your ass kicked for saying something like that.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 1:40:38 PM EDT
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