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Posted: 2/19/2006 7:34:48 PM EDT
I'm considering a new 9mm. I have a bersa thunder 9 that I really like but the mags are pretty hard to find and are very expensive. I kinda want to get something that's pretty common so I can get cheap mags and parts. What's the diff. between the two? Are they pretty decent pistols?
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:40:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2006 7:41:18 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]
the P89 is the older model, and has the steel (?) frame

the P-95 has the polymer frame

i'd get the P89--weights just a little more, but the grips can be changed to some good, tight, nice feeling Hogues

the P95's plastic just gets a little slick for my taste....

they are both decent autos (use the same mags too), and for ~$300, they are great for the $$$s
they are also rated for +p+ ammo, no problems; some question thier accuracy, but they are combat grade accurate enough
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:46:14 PM EDT
there's a p90 too right, how does it rate?
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:46:40 PM EDT
The Rugers are not very refined and not very ergonomic for many people, but they are tough reliable pistols. You can buy used P95s around here for $225 all day long.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:48:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buzter:
there's a p90 too right, how does it rate?



The P90 has been around for a long time. It is a single stack .45.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 9:21:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/19/2006 10:00:08 PM EDT by BSheppard]
I have had a P95 for 10 years and more rounds than I care to remember. Never a broken part or failure. To this day, it is one of my favorite handguns and I have some that are well over $2000.00. Best $289.00 I ever spent on a new gun.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 3:17:10 AM EDT
the p89 also has removable grips so that you can slap on aftermarket ones. with the p95 you would have to get a sleeve type grip. also the p95 has a 4" barrel while the p89 has a longer barrel--5" maybe. takedown is a bit simpler with the p95. the new p95 models can be bought with an integral underbarrel accessory rail but no p89 model has that.

i love my p95. it isn't the most beautiful pistol but it goes bang every time. and 3 years ago it was the best $325 i ever spent.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 12:56:37 PM EDT
thanks, I just want something pretty reliable and with acceptable accuracy. I don't need it to win any beauty contests.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 3:29:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buzter:
thanks, I just want something pretty reliable and with acceptable accuracy. I don't need it to win any beauty contests.



in that case either will suffice. there are also 2 discontinued models--the p93 and p94. the p93 is the same overall size as the p95 but has the alloy frame. the p94 is the full size and is generally much nicer as far as fit and finish and therefore more expensive.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 4:34:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 4:35:20 PM EDT by hanibal]

Originally Posted By BSheppard:
I have had a P95 for 10 years and more rounds than I care to remember. Never a broken part or failure. To this day, it is one of my favorite handguns and I have some that are well over $2000.00. Best $289.00 I ever spent on a new gun.



That's how I'd describe my p89. It is one very reliable gun. The only drawback to me is that it's just a little too bulky for CCW but with the right holster it's manageable. I bought mine lightly used from a friend for $250. NO regrets here.

ETA: the hogue grip makes a huge difference in the overall feel of the gun IMO.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:52:03 PM EDT
I don't really need it for CCW. I have a Kel-Tec 9mm I like alot for that job. I just want a regular sized 9mm for home protection and what not. I like my bersa 9 but the mags are so expensive. they have a factory 17rd. mag that's like 60 some bucks.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:32:44 PM EDT
Here is a link for Ruger 9mm mags. 17 rounders for 21.28. Hope it helps.

ruger 9mm mags
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 3:30:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hanibal:
Here is a link for Ruger 9mm mags. 17 rounders for 21.28. Hope it helps.

ruger 9mm mags



i picked up a no-name 30 round mag for my p95. after a little tweaking--filing down the lips and bending them out a little it has been 100% reliable. i found it at dkmags. damn i bought it a year ago for $30 and it is only $20 now.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 8:29:38 AM EDT
The P-95 is polymer and has a different trigger mechanism. The trigger pull is much better than on a P-89. The gun is also more snag free and has less edges and protrusions.

Were I to purchase my "first" handgun again, I would purchase a P-95 over a P-89.

Link Posted: 2/21/2006 5:37:20 PM EDT
P89 has an aluminum frame. P95 is polymer.

My P89 DC was my very first pistol purchase, and my very first gun purchase. 15 years later, and many thousands of rounds downrange, and it's never failed to perform other than flawlessly.

It won't win any beauty contests, and it's not particularly well suited to CCW, but it's pretty damn reliable.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 12:31:21 PM EDT
I love my P89 the weight of the gun makes shooting fun almost no recoil. Of course most would say 9mm has no recoil
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 12:03:20 AM EDT
Well I have one of each, both were purchased as duty weapons. They never falter or choke and have been 100% reliable. Neither are the most ergonomic pistols but they are accurate enuff for government work. 17 round capacity, easy to get mags.. fair prices for either model.
I have carried the P95 concealed but it isnt the best for this.
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