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Posted: 2/2/2006 8:19:30 AM EDT
Once upon a time I had a Smith and Wesson 1006. While I never really cared for the anvil-like ergonomics of the Smith, I LOVED the 10mm cartridge. When I got my CCDW several years ago, I traded off the 1006 for something moe practical. I have always missed having a 10mm, and would like to get another. I carry a GLOCK, and a 20 or 29 would be my first choice, but unfortunately, they are just too big for my hands.

I have always heard that the Witness pistols are very good weapons, but I have never actually handled one. They seem like a very good deal for the money if they are as good as I have heard. Generally, Italian firearms are very nice and well designed.

Does the Witness have a more manageable grip than the GLOCK 10mm? What does the grip size compare to? Bigger than a Beretta? Does the gun hold up well to the 10mm round?

I would love to see some pics of your Witness 10mms.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:25:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 12:58:30 PM EDT by twonami]



Grip is like a large CZ and very comfortable. Handles hot 10mm with no problems. Still a heavy bastard though.
Old pictures since I use Doubletap ammo these days.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:26:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
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Grip is like a large CZ and very comfortable. Handles hot 10mm with no problems. Still aheavy bastard though



Link Posted: 2/2/2006 1:11:10 PM EDT
Of all the handguns I own my Witness is my hands down favorite.. Balance, good looks.... All is there...
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:35:56 PM EDT
Any reliability problems? I have heard that some needed a lot of work and sending it back is not an option, but these sources are, at best, uncertain.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 9:53:06 PM EDT
If grip size is a concern why not get a 1911 10mm?
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:15:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2006 10:15:44 PM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Any reliability problems? I have heard that some needed a lot of work and sending it back is not an option, but these sources are, at best, uncertain.


none since I had it. The double action trigger was kind of stiff and heavy but a trigger job smoothed it and you don't notice the heavyness anymore.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 12:27:45 AM EDT
How does one go about ordering? My local dealer has them in stock...for $449.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 5:08:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ComputerGuy:
If grip size is a concern why not get a 1911 10mm?



1911's have just never felt right in my hands and the 10mm is known for beating 1911s to death.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 5:14:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By ComputerGuy:
If grip size is a concern why not get a 1911 10mm?



1911's have just never felt right in my hands and the 10mm is known for beating 1911s to death.



I would suggest that that's likely a false generalization left behind by the early Gold Cups with a tendency to crack at the frame. Other than those, I have never heard of a problem with the full pressure rounds.

Hard to argue with a Witness for ~$300 though.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:29:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By ComputerGuy:
If grip size is a concern why not get a 1911 10mm?



1911's have just never felt right in my hands and the 10mm is known for beating 1911s to death.



Those were very early problems. A properly built (not just factory "assembled") 1911 will be fine with all 10mm loads.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:33:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By ComputerGuy:
If grip size is a concern why not get a 1911 10mm?



1911's have just never felt right in my hands and the 10mm is known for beating 1911s to death.



I would suggest that that's likely a false generalization left behind by the early Gold Cups with a tendency to crack at the frame. Other than those, I have never heard of a problem with the full pressure rounds.

Hard to argue with a Witness for ~$300 though.



Two months ago I saw a Kimber with less than 1200 rounds on it that had a cracked frame.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 7:12:14 AM EDT
Yeah, but the key words are "properly built" not "factory assembled". My understanding is that for the 1911 in 10mm to have longevity, it must be properly built, NOT just "put together" by some jamoke in a factory.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 12:15:10 PM EDT
I have owned a witness .45 before and LOVED it.


Zero Issues. 100% kickass.


In fact, I just ordered two more!
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 3:30:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:
Of all the handguns I own my Witness is my hands down favorite.. Balance, good looks.... All is there...



How the Witness 10mm feel comparied to your Bren Ten?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 3:57:56 PM EDT
Aren't the only Witnesses available now made with a polymer frame?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 4:20:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 4:20:21 PM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:
Aren't the only Witnesses available now made with a polymer frame?


Still available in steel and polymer
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