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Posted: 1/21/2006 8:43:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 8:46:00 PM EDT by drewucf]
Really wanted a 228 but having trouble finding any deals with them. The 229's on the other hand are everywhere and can get quite a few locally. This will be used as my first carry piece and wanted your opinion.

ETA: My only hesitation with the .40 was that I never really liked shooting it with my friend's glock 23. I'm a decent shot but always had trouble with it. I'm not sure if it was the round or the glock, but I tried a g19 and I seemed okay with that.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:11:44 PM EDT
If you really want a 228 then it's probably best to just stay the course and get a 228. If you don't you're likely just setting yourself up to get rid of it later.
FWIW, there always seems to be 228s for sale over on Gunbroker.com.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:27:33 PM EDT
The 229 is a better gun. It has a milled slide which is much more solid.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:35:43 PM EDT
I've got a 228, don't want to part with it, but I love this pistol, I have taken it to the range, and shot at least 300 rds through it on numerous occasions, probably 2500 rds total, never a problem, no jams nothing, very comfortable, and very accurate. never fired a 229, I'm sure it is a fine gun, but I love my 228.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:02:54 PM EDT
The recoil impulse of the SIG P229 is not even in the same universe as the GLOCK .40 caliber pistols; it's a whole different gun, and much easier / more pleasant to shoot. The P228 is an excellent gun in it's own right. If you're looking for inexpensive ammunition, 9mm is as cheap as you will find. I've swapped back and forth a couple of times, and decided that the P229, and the .40 caliber cartridge it was designed to fire, is more to my liking. Besides, if you get the desire to shoot 9mm, you can always pick up a BARSTO conversion barrel and a couple of P228 magazines.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:15:42 PM EDT
Why not a 9mm 229?
Best of both worlds (if you want a 9mm)
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 11:44:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By az-gunner:
Why not a 9mm 229?
Best of both worlds (if you want a 9mm)



Well my whole problem was that I was looking locally for them to save on money. I'd have no problem using either of them, I was just afraid I was going to have the same problems with the 229 in .40 as I did with the g23.

I think I'll get a local 229 carry package and see how I like it. I guess once I actually have a pistol, I can always trade it off or sell it if I don't like it.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 5:38:53 PM EDT
IMO the height of the serrations on the rear of the slide were reason enough to choose the 228 over the 229. Both are valid choices but I decided since both are proven reliable designs I'd go with the lighter classic look of the 228.

Since I'm only shooting 9mm at the moment the 228 was the obvious choice...

When I step up to 357/40 I'll probably want a 229!
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 5:40:28 PM EDT
228 or the 229 dak.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 6:50:13 PM EDT
The older 228 with the sheet metal slid also a hollow roll-pin that holds the breach-block in place and breaks after really extended useage. The newer 229 slide has a solid roll-pin that doesn't have that problem. The 228 is more accurate than the 229 according to my firned, who is a pretty good shooter, this could be possibly due to the fact that they can fold the sheet metal to closer tolerances than machining.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 9:11:38 PM EDT
Ive had both 228 and 229 in 9MM. I prefer the 228. The 229 felt "top heavy" (due to the heavier slide) to me. My .02
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 9:54:08 PM EDT
One thing to keep in mind if you do purchase a Sig 228. I carried my Sig228 for a day and my sweat caused the handgun to start rusting.

I've heard that the park jobs done by Sig are not exactly that great. If I were you I would make sure I get the K-Kote version or maybe a stainless if it is offered. I purchased my Sig 228 probably 6-8 years ago. I still have it.....but I will never carry it for my CCW. For my CCW I stick to my Glock 30 when it is cooler or my Ruger SP101 .357(stainless) in hotter weather.
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 11:50:16 PM EDT
I love my 229R/9mm, but of the two you have listed, I vote for the P228. I am just not convinced that .40 is anything but more expensive when compared to 9mm. *shrug*
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 8:06:31 AM EDT
I really need to get to a range to try them out

And does anyone else have experience with them rusting while carrying? I eventually wanted to get it NP3'd. Would that take care of it? Would wiping it off at the end of the day prevent it from rusting?I guess being in FL I would need to know all this
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 12:26:33 PM EDT

I voted 228 only because you really seem set on a 9mm. I personally have a 229 and love it and prefer the .40 over the 9mm anytime. The one thing that must be first though is your confidence which will be bred primarily by your preference. If you decide you want to consider the 229 seriously, NOTHING will suffice for you getting out to a range and shooting a 229 and deciding in advance if it will work with you. The good news is that someone out there has a 229 you can shoot i'm sure. Its a fairly common gun and you should be able to shoot one before buying. Good luck!

later,
AJ
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 9:47:32 PM EDT
Try Ordnance Outsellers, they had some NIB P228s a while back.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 8:36:54 PM EDT
I have both (P228 & P229) and honestly, other than the slight weight difference, I don't see any real difference. To me they shoot exactly the same (accuracy, recoil, etc.). I've had both for quite a while and shot them equally. When I carry the P229 ccw I do notice the extra weight. Other than that I think they are about equal. I do, however, ccw my P228 more frequently, since it weighs less, in both summer and winter and I haven't had any rust problems (by the way I live in 90%-humidity-Houston). So don't believe everything you read. On the Sig forum someone ask about the difference in the slide pins and the rep's answer was that although they are made slightly different they are of equal quality. Sounds reasonable to me.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:08:18 PM EDT
I say get the P220 .45acp


Scout
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 3:44:04 AM EDT
I have a 229 in .40 No problems with recoil. Shoots well and is easily concealable.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:29:16 AM EDT
The answer to this question is obvious; get both.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:39:07 AM EDT
I would get the 9mm, .40 is a pointless round IMHO.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:59:18 AM EDT
You guys aren't making this one any easier. At least it seems like I can't go wrong with either. I really am going to try to make it to the range this weekend and try them out.

Like I said before, I have a couple local packages for both, but since I'm the cheapest bastard you'll meet, can you guys suggest any good CPO dealers to see what their prices are like?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 1:37:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rmdugan84:
I would get the 9mm, .40 is a pointless round IMHO.

And you base that on what?
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:29:12 PM EDT
I have a 228 - I like the steel slide better than the stainless - just a personal preference - I'm sure the pros and cons are neck and neck

will never sell it

probably 500 rounds through it and have no failures to this point. More handguns in the safe but where I go so goes the 228.

Stays in a leather holster 100% time - I wipe it with a silicon cloth often and have had no rusting issues.

AND THE BEST PART:

15 round 226 mags work like they were made for the 228 - especially when paired with the add on floor plates I got from Brownell's - they make a great pinky rest, look perfect and fill the "gap" caused by using the longer mags.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:33:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 8:34:11 PM EDT by Tomislav]

Originally Posted By SamColt:
AND THE BEST PART:

15 round 226 mags work like they were made for the 228 - especially when paired with the add on floor plates I got from Brownell's - they make a great pinky rest, look perfect and fill the "gap" caused by using the longer mags.



Mec-Gar, the folks who make Sig 'factory' mags, make a 15rd mag for the 228/229 9mm, and a 17rd for the 226/9mm. They fit flush. From my understanding, it just took a follower redesign to get those two extra rounds in.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:51:44 PM EDT
I think you may find shooting the 229 .40 much more comfortable than the Glock. Try renting one first.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:07:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 6:43:17 PM EDT
I shot my sig .229 40 cal and my buddy's new from the box 40 cal. Glock 23 back to back last week. As for recoil, the sig handles it better. The glock was not as pleasant to shoot but it was not painful such as shooting 357 out of them scadium frame S&W revolvers. The extra weight and thickness of the sigs slide help reduce the recoil and that heft and thickness makes me feel comfortable with the 40 cal round. Im confident that in a worst case scenario (ie Kaboom) the strength of the milled slide will keep my fingers safe. I dont feel that same way about the glock (and I own a glock 22). My department issues sig 229s and I have seen thousands of 40 cal shots and no kabooms. Im fully confident in the sig/40 combo. As for those who say that the 40 is "pointless". You dont know what your talking about. I respect the 9mm but it does not equal the 40 cal in power or effectiveness. Just the same way as I believe that the 40 doesnt measure up to the 45. If I was the chief we would be carrying sig 220Rsher
Just buy the sig .40. The only question is "are you professional enough to handle the sig fohtee!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:59:47 PM EDT
I CCW my P228, never had any rust issues, but I'm sure that can be attributed to the nickle slide. A Nitron P229 will be very rust resistant as well. I'm getting a P229 in 357 when the tax return gets here, going with the old arfcom rule of 'get both'. The P229 will be my carry piece while the P228 is at Sig for an action job. Both are fantastic. The P228 is a classic, and as good or better than any other 9mm combat handgun ever (this excludes P7's and P210's). 9mm is stupid cheap to plink with, and a damn good stopper when loaded with Speer Gold Dot 124grn +P's, Rangers, Golden Sabers, etc.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:01:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:

Originally Posted By SamColt:
AND THE BEST PART:

15 round 226 mags work like they were made for the 228 - especially when paired with the add on floor plates I got from Brownell's - they make a great pinky rest, look perfect and fill the "gap" caused by using the longer mags.



Mec-Gar, the folks who make Sig 'factory' mags, make a 15rd mag for the 228/229 9mm, and a 17rd for the 226/9mm. They fit flush. From my understanding, it just took a follower redesign to get those two extra rounds in.



Correct. And the Freeds X-Grip fits the 17rd mec's as well. 17 +1 in a P228, very cool.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 4:45:27 PM EDT
I own both pistols and like them both, however....


Since the P228 is supposedly being discontinued (or not being imported here anymore by SigArms), I'd say ge the P228 first. It is the sweetest 9mm.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:12:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drew5337:
Correct. And the Freeds X-Grip fits the 17rd mec's as well. 17 +1 in a P228, very cool.



Cool, never seen those X-Grips before. I have oodles of both mags (for the 226 and 229), so I'll have to get a couple. 17+1 229 sounds great!
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 8:03:50 AM EDT
I wanted a 228. I went to my local shop and was told that the 228 and 229 cost the same. So, I ordered the 229.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 8:34:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CopeLC:
I wanted a 228. I went to my local shop and was told that the 228 and 229 cost the same. So, I ordered the 229.

Good choice
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