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Posted: 1/14/2006 11:12:25 PM EDT
Ok guys, been saving for several years and will finally be buying both an RRA M4 and an Arsenal SLR-105 A1 R (AK-74) this spring. Have a little cash left over and want to grab a handgun too. So what's the best one for around $500? Only preference is that I want an automatic, no revolvers.

Been looking at Glock Model 23s and the SA Mil-Spec 1911. Opinions on those too would particularly be appreciated. Ohhh...one more question with the Glocks. I am around 5' 7", so not the biggest guy ever....will the Glock be too big for my hands? thanks folks.......
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 11:33:36 PM EDT
Under $500... Hmmmm let's see...

Glock 19? Good size, very tough, I'm no real Glock fan, but they seem nice.

CPO Sig 226 or 220? Large, but top quality. I love my Sig, and want many more.

Springfield GI is an excellent choice if you like the 1911 platform. Excellent entry-level pistol.

EAA Witness? Five bills will get you the gun, a holster, a few mags and ammo. I hear terrific things about them.


I guess mostly it depends on what you prefer yourself. There are several more excellent ones as well.
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 11:40:42 PM EDT
I'd have to say the Glock 19. it's the perfect balance between weight, size, and capacity. ammo is cheap and readily available. I have 2.

Link Posted: 1/14/2006 11:41:45 PM EDT
revolver smith or ruger spend the rest on a quality holster and ammo
Link Posted: 1/14/2006 11:48:12 PM EDT
I'd suggest the G17.

"If ya' can't get it done with 18 9's" then....well you get the point.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:19:06 AM EDT
Glock!



foe tee!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:19:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SGT_DAN:
I'd suggest the G17.

"If ya' can't get it done with 18 9's" then.....




...its time to switch to .45
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:20:11 AM EDT
CZ Would be my first choice then
Ruger P345
Glock
XD
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:28:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 12:29:04 AM EDT by CAAAwarfighter]
Glock or XD. CPO SIG would be good too.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:30:54 AM EDT
SA mil-spec or a G19
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:39:21 AM EDT
glock
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 3:41:44 AM EDT
cz or ruger. the cz75 is incredibly comfortable. the ruger p series are indestructable. but the p345 is getting extremely mixed feedback due mainly to the magazine disconnect causing problems with dry firing but also other issues. on the up side all other ruger pistols are amazing and great. and their customer service is second to none.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 4:31:11 AM EDT
CPO Sigs without a doubt. Some of them look like they were never fired
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:17:40 AM EDT
FN hipower
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:32:42 AM EDT


OR

Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:37:02 AM EDT
Ruger P90 Stainless in a .45 will fit your requirements to a T.

Been an extremely reliable Hand gun for me zero malfunctions and I can hit what I'm aiming at. (usually)... I'm not the best shot with a handgun but it's not the rugers fault it's mine :)


James.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:37:59 AM EDT
Skip the AKS and the CZ. Take a carbine class with your M4. Later on buy a Glock 17 or 19.

G
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:39:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 6:40:02 AM EDT by Mr-H]
CZ anything
Sig Pro
Springfield XD
Springfield GI .45
Taurus anything
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:43:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 6:43:40 AM EDT by fcs2178]
Look at the Sig factory certified/refurbished pistols. You will spend just a bit more that $500, but not much more. I think we can get them here at my FFL for about $549 and I have seen them even cheaper. But you can't beat a GLOCK either, G22 nice mix of firepower + capacity.

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Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:48:33 AM EDT
GLOCK 19
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:54:22 AM EDT
for your price range a Baby Eagle(full size all steel) with hi-caps, holster can be had. I have the .45 and 9mm in those. They also have polygonal barrels like Glock. Check CDNN also they have great prices on police trades that can be re-barreled if you choose. Also check the handgun EE lots of good choices. One of the team members had a new Barreta 92 in OD with two mags for $400.00
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:46:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fcs2178:
Look at the Sig factory certified/refurbished pistols. You will spend just a bit more that $500, but not much more. I think we can get them here at my FFL for about $549 and I have seen them even cheaper. But you can't beat a GLOCK either, G22 nice mix of firepower + capacity.




Do you think the CPO Sigs look good? Fit and Finish I mean? Do they have new barrels? Don't really know much about the CPO ones....
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:53:00 AM EDT
G23
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 11:53:39 AM EDT
SA mil-spec
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 12:00:56 PM EDT
good stuff so far guys. Need more opinions on CPO Sigs and SA mil-spec. Mil-spec pretty decent? any problems? thx
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 1:38:11 PM EDT
I would say Glock 19 or 23 (depending on the caliber you want) or the Springfield Armory GI 1911. You would be well served by any of these choices.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 2:49:56 PM EDT
I don't buy plastic guns...never buy anything that can be damaged with a match!

SA 1911 .45 ACP baby...all the way!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 4:15:37 PM EDT
I'd pick the SA 1911.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:46:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mco119:
good stuff so far guys. Need more opinions on CPO Sigs and SA mil-spec. Mil-spec pretty decent? any problems? thx



My grandfather owns a Mil-Spec and it has been a very reliable pistol. The gun shoots Winchester White Box 230gr. PERFECTLY. It shoots very nice groups and is 100% reliable pistol. It works very well. I like the Mil-Spec, because it it is a fairly accurate representation of the famous 1911 A1, but it incorporates the bare essentials needed to make the 1911 A1 shootable. I think you would really like it.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 5:48:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/15/2006 5:48:54 PM EDT by Burkey]
Double Post. Sorry.
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:04:00 PM EDT
Glock 21
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 6:05:27 PM EDT
Right now.... I'd go with a XD 45ACP
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 8:39:14 PM EDT
Glock 19
CZ P-01
Beretta Px4 Storm
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 2:14:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:
cz or ruger. the cz75 is incredibly comfortable. the ruger p series are indestructable. but the p345 is getting extremely mixed feedback due mainly to the magazine disconnect causing problems with dry firing but also other issues. on the up side all other ruger pistols are amazing and great. and their customer service is second to none.




I have never had that problem with mine but it is interesting. What other problems with the P345?
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 2:27:07 AM EDT
Glock 23 or 27 , or even maybe a SIG ARMS p226, Great handguns for smaller hands
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 2:40:36 AM EDT
No one has mentioned a Beretta yet? a nice 92fs can be had for that price easy enough.

Link Posted: 1/16/2006 2:47:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sydney7629:
CPO Sigs without a doubt. Some of them look like they were never fired



+1
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 2:59:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GenghisKhan:

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:
cz or ruger. the cz75 is incredibly comfortable. the ruger p series are indestructable. but the p345 is getting extremely mixed feedback due mainly to the magazine disconnect causing problems with dry firing but also other issues. on the up side all other ruger pistols are amazing and great. and their customer service is second to none.




I have never had that problem with mine but it is interesting. What other problems with the P345?



no others really that i have heard other than normal issues that every mass produced firearm has--a spring going bad here or there. but people are dry firing their pistols just like every other pistol they have had instead of paying attention to what the manual says: never dry fire without magazine inserted.

due to these issues i would say if you are interested in ruger to buy a p90 or a used p97 as those are no longer made. i know they aren't quite as high speed as the p345 but from everything i have heard there are no problems at all with them.
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 7:23:23 PM EDT
what do you guys think about the Sig Pro series?
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 8:09:21 PM EDT
CPO Sigs. Especially some of the like new West German ones that then get refinished in the new Nitron finish. I just got a beautiful 228 from Dan @ Eagle Sports & Tactical (check the EE).
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:22:15 AM EDT
I've owned a SIG P220 and a Springfield 1911A1 GI. The GI fits better in my hand and I like the design. The sights are rudimentary, the Mil-Spec is better as far as the sights. The SIG was dead on accurate, and I liked the sights. It felt thicker in my hand. I didn't sell it because I didn't like it, but now that I don't have it I don't know that I'd buy another. I think if I was going to get another .45ACP handgun I'd get another 1911A1 style. Probably one of the higher end Springfields. If you wanted to stay under $500, I'd suggest a Springfield Mil-Spec, unless you wanted to have more or less a WWII copy 1911A1, then go with the GI.

GL


Link Posted: 1/18/2006 2:27:16 AM EDT
My vote = Glock 19. Best all around size, quality, capacity, caliber.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:09:14 AM EDT
CZ - P01 or 75BD
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:40:56 PM EDT
Glock 23 is my favorite gun period... and last time I looked in the safe I own them all.. (well close anyway) I like the 1911, HK, Sig, and revolvers BUT.. For the best in size, weight, power, capacity, and dependability the G23 is tough to beat...
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:46:29 PM EDT
I'd go with the Glock or a used SIG. 1911's can be money pits if they don't run right out of the box. I like the 1911, but it can take some work to make them run 100%, which wouldn't be cost-effective if you just want a working gun for $500.
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