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Posted: 1/9/2006 5:20:37 PM EDT
what comes to mind?

P.S. Please dont bore me with talk about how you dont need a manual safety yadda, yadda, yadda. This is what my friend wants and I only carry Glocks so I didnt know what to recommend to him.

p.s.s. Your not going to change his mind either about the manual safety crap. Also, he would prefer 9mm and something with a low bore axis like my Glock 17
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:44:11 PM EDT
HK USPc--wait--low core axis....

BHP or CZ
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:45:42 PM EDT
BHP or CZ
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:56:32 PM EDT
S&W 3913
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:07:38 PM EDT
Any of the compact Smiths. There's about a dozen variations out there. Used ones typically very reasonable on price.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:28:29 PM EDT
CZ Rami.........
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:12:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:36:01 AM EDT
when you say manual safety do you mean something a la 1911 or would a grip safety suffice as on a springfield xd? those come in very compact models. but i have no experience with them. would the squeeze cocker of the hk p7 work? it is a bit expensive but the most beautiful pistol i have ever shot.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:38:58 AM EDT
Beretta 92FS Compact L type M, or a CZ P0-1.
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[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 4:29:36 AM EDT by WolfFox]
I have a Taurus PT111 millennium. It has a manual safety. Great gun for carry, fits in your pocket. Not to expensive. Mine feeds every time. Accurate for what it is.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 4:34:24 AM EDT
Beretta 9000S. My sister got one a while back, and is actually a damn nice shooter.

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 4:43:58 AM EDT
cz75 compact. The 75 D PCR and P01 both have decockers and the accessory rail on the PO1 makes for difficult IWB carry and also a harder time on holster choices.

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:25:10 AM EDT
+1 on the cz75 compacts. but the pcr only has a decocker while the standard compact has the manual safety. the p-01 is not very different fromt the cz75b but as it is the newest thing everybody is saying it is the greatest. the biggest difference is that it has an accessory rail. and for concealed carry that is not likely to be used so imho i don't think it is worth the extra money.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:34:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 9:46:04 AM EDT by Dolomite]

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
Any of the compact Smiths. There's about a dozen variations out there. Used ones typically very reasonable on price.

Like the 469/669 - very reliable 9's and the price is usually right.

There nothing un-taktikul about carrying a gun with a manual safety, like the S&W or Berettas.

Just never assume that the safety lever is going to be where you put it last.

Everytime you draw, your thumb should be flicking up at the point on the slide where the safety lever is located when activated, regardless of which way you usually carry it.

Developing this habit can help with the decision over whether or not to carry with the safety flipped down on many autos. Not a bad deal if one's bearing any concern regarding retention either.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:21:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
Any of the compact Smiths. There's about a dozen variations out there. Used ones typically very reasonable on price.

Like the 469/669 - very reliable 9's and the price is usually right.

There nothing un-taktikul about carrying a gun with a manual safety, like the S&W or Berettas.

Just never assume that the safety lever is going to be where you put it last.



+1 I can't believe how cheap S&W autos are and other than being ugly and the company traitorous to gun owners under previous management; I've heard nothing bad about the actual firearms. CDNN usually has a pile of them for less than $275.

G
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:06:32 PM EDT
Springfield makes a nice little 9mm 1911.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:21:54 PM EDT
USPc or P2000 are the best IMHO.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 12:51:59 PM EDT by ASUsax]

Originally Posted By drew5337:
Springfield makes a nice little 9mm 1911.



In a 1911 'style', an option would be a Surplus Star BM.



Usually available for less than $150.

Fit's a commander-sized 1911 holster. No grip safety, still has a manual safety sim. to the 1911.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:49:48 PM EDT

LINK HERE
The height of the bore axis on an HK doesn’t bother me and I’m a girl when it comes to recoil, but what ever. I still like the PT111 better than the P2000SK just because of the better grip, nice trigger, and manual safety.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:04:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By drew5337:
Springfield makes a nice little 9mm 1911.



In a 1911 'style', an option would be a Surplus Star BM.

www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Critical%20Look%20at%20Star%20Model%20BM_files/image034.jpg

Usually available for less than $150.

Fit's a commander-sized 1911 holster. No grip safety, still has a manual safety sim. to the 1911.



or the para warthog 9--12+1.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:01:47 PM EDT
Beretta 8000.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 1:23:49 AM EDT
CZ75 Compact.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 3:03:49 AM EDT
If you mean you want a DA/SA pistol with a manual safety then the CZ75 Compact or RAMI both fit the bill. The HK is much bigger, very tall in the slide like a SIG 228, not really that compact. If you can wait, Tanfoglio (EAA Witness in US) just came out with a gun halfway in size between the CZ Compact and RAMI built on a plastic frame. It is also a full-control pistol, I carry mine chambered at half cock and safety engaged. It is lighter and slightly shorter than the Compact and easier to hold/shoot than the RAMI.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 12:25:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:17:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mm38:
Glock with a Cominolli safety added? www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=5532&title=GLOCK~+MANUAL+SAFETY+KIT



mm



The safety lever is pretty small. I like glocks, but would rather have a Browning Hi-Power, or even a Sig, over one of those.
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