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Posted: 5/11/2021 4:25:35 PM EDT
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Does safariland make a wml and rds holster for berettas or 1911s?
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2021 6:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Does safariland make a wml and rds holster for berettas or 1911s? No. RDS holster options are currently limited. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0086/8689/5184/files/PT_11_4-9-21_Concealment_Duty_and_Tactical_Holsters_for_Pistols_with_Optic.pdf?v=1618934537 |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 7:35:20 PM EDT
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I used an RMR equipment Glock 19.5 MOS in a self defense shooting against an attacking pit bull today. Even under stress, while I was backpedaling and the dog was closing on me I was able to instantly acquire the dot as soon as my pistol came into view just before pressing the trigger. This was at extremely close range and the dot still worked just as intended.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:09:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: I used an RMR equipment Glock 19.5 MOS in a self defense shooting against an attacking pit bull today. Even under stress, while I was backpedaling and the dog was closing on me I was able to instantly acquire the dot as soon as my pistol came into view just before pressing the trigger. This was at extremely close range and the dot still worked just as intended. +1 for pistol optics and regular training. Need alot more details. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2021 9:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrailerTrash556: Need alot more details. Dog was charging him and he drew his RDS equipped gun and smoked the pooch in self defense and the RDS worked good. What more details do you need? Whether he’s an ATF agent or not since it was a dog? 😂 |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 10:10:29 AM EDT
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At extremely close range, iron sights would have probably worked just as well. It's always nice to have confidence in your set up, though.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2021 10:34:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hiih8r: Dog was charging him and he drew his RDS equipped gun and smoked the pooch in self defense and the RDS worked good. What more details do you need? Whether he’s an ATF agent or not since it was a dog? 😂 Just curious about the entire event. What environment, dog size, owners reaction(assuming there was one), ammo used. If he doesn't want to share that is fine |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 10:54:42 AM EDT
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I posted a full breakdown in team for anyone interested.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 9:03:29 AM EDT
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Will an aftermarket GEN 3 optic cut slide work on my GEN 2 Glock 19?
I'm ready to upgrade from this:  |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 9:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW: Will an aftermarket GEN 3 optic cut slide work on my GEN 2 Glock 19? I'm ready to upgrade from this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/20C07418-E5DD-4B3B-98D8-614AA2921C94-1565859.jpg Yes. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 9:47:25 AM EDT
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Who is the go to for getting a sig p229 slide milled for an RMR?
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Posted: 5/15/2021 9:47:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrailerTrash556: Just curious about the entire event. What environment, dog size, owners reaction(assuming there was one), ammo used. If he doesn't want to share that is fine My backyard 80+ lbs Lots of screaming and crying Speer Gold Dot 124 +p |
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Posted: 5/20/2021 10:38:44 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 5/24/2021 10:06:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Izhevsk54r]
[#14]
Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer
ACRO P-2  
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Posted: 5/24/2021 10:51:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer ACRO P-2 https://i.imgur.com/Mpr0Fgcm.png https://i.imgur.com/O0hnQ8Vm.png Is it any smaller than the original? |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 10:55:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer ACRO P-2 https://i.imgur.com/Mpr0Fgcm.png https://i.imgur.com/O0hnQ8Vm.png |
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USA
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Posted: 5/24/2021 11:53:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Is it any smaller than the original? Doesn’t appear so, but that would probably be asking a bit much to give it a bigger battery and make it smaller |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 2:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer ACRO P-2 https://i.imgur.com/Mpr0Fgcm.png https://i.imgur.com/O0hnQ8Vm.png Nice |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2021 2:40:16 PM EDT
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I tried rds rmr on my Glock 17 and never got the feeling for it never found the dot always hunting for it. Switched brands to 320s and put my last rmr on it and the rmr dot is on target most of the time or close to it. I think it's the grip geometry. I have a Glock left but 320 is the future with the military contract and all the vendors the Lego combinations plus all the surplus that the future will bring.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 2:49:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Does safariland make a wml and rds holster for berettas or 1911s? I imagine you might be able to get away with a commander length slide in a Staccato P RDS holster. Full size is no go. Hilton Yam said the Staccato fit in the 5inch M&P CORE RDS rig before safariland made the Staccato line. I have one on order to try my 5 inch 1911 with RMR. Still on back order from Safariland but I'll let you know. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:03:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Hopefully this is a trend. I'd love to see Holosun offer a CR2032 battery and eliminate the solar panels and shake-awake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer They already achieve 50,000 hours with the existing battery and without the use of shake-awake and solar panels. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:21:45 PM EDT
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I feel like I need one of the new ACROs for my M17
 The one on the right 
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: They already achieve 50,000 hours with the existing battery and without the use of shake-awake and solar panels. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 6:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Aimpoint just announced the ACRO P-2, takes a regular 2032, battery life claims to be 4x longer ACRO P-2 https://i.imgur.com/Mpr0Fgcm.png https://i.imgur.com/O0hnQ8Vm.png Oof...Trijicon will need to definitely step up their game. A claimed 50k hours on one battery at setting #6. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 6:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SIASL: Oof...Trijicon will need to definitely step up their game. A claimed 50k hours on one battery at setting #6. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 6:46:04 PM EDT
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I just added a MRDS to my long slide 1911 (45 Super) and it definitely showed me how shaky my hold is. I guess old eyes and fuzzy irons just show how bad it wobbles like a bright red dot.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 7:20:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryM: I just added a MRDS to my long slide 1911 (45 Super) and it definitely showed me how shaky my hold is. I guess old eyes and fuzzy irons just show how bad it wobbles like a bright red dot.   Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/24/2021 7:59:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: Is it any smaller than the original? Pretty sure it's bigger. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 9:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: I made this meme for you https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/079961DD-FA61-4B9A-B173-F0EF82279AF9_jpe-1954372.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By GaryM: I just added a MRDS to my long slide 1911 (45 Super) and it definitely showed me how shaky my hold is. I guess old eyes and fuzzy irons just show how bad it wobbles like a bright red dot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/079961DD-FA61-4B9A-B173-F0EF82279AF9_jpe-1954372.JPG
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Posted: 5/24/2021 9:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: I made this meme for you https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113559/079961DD-FA61-4B9A-B173-F0EF82279AF9_jpe-1954372.JPG |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 9:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Then get rid of the shake-awake and solar panels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By Space-Cadet: They already achieve 50,000 hours with the existing battery and without the use of shake-awake and solar panels. Why? They're proven technology that add even more run time to the system. Ever had a G-Shock with tough solar? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2021 1:10:35 AM EDT
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Got my slide back from Jagerwerks today and it looks great. I am going to pick up a Rm06 rmr soon.
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Posted: 5/25/2021 11:23:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: Why? They're proven technology that add even more run time to the system. |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 11:35:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Each is just another potential point of failure. The solar panels don't increase battery life. They're intended as a fail safe in the event the battery dies. I'd prefer to change the battery at regular intervals and not have shake-awake and solar panels. It's just my personal preference. Obviously, a lot of guys swear by them (Holosun). Not my cup of tea. Yep. Additional failure points for zero gain. |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 2:09:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: Yep. Additional failure points for zero gain. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762AR25: Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Each is just another potential point of failure. The solar panels don't increase battery life. They're intended as a fail safe in the event the battery dies. I'd prefer to change the battery at regular intervals and not have shake-awake and solar panels. It's just my personal preference. Obviously, a lot of guys swear by them (Holosun). Not my cup of tea. Yep. Additional failure points for zero gain. How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 2:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Pretty sure it's bigger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Originally Posted By triburst1: Is it any smaller than the original? Pretty sure it's bigger. Same size and weight as the original.  Aimpoint ACRO P-2 |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 2:43:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 3:51:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? |
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Posted: 5/25/2021 5:12:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? Because I would never leave any battery in longer than a year. |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bradd_D: Are you wanting to go longer than a year plus without changing batteries? Nope. I plan on changing the battery every year. But you know what they say about plans...  BTW, I love my RMR RM06. Also plan on picking up the ACRO P2 once it's available. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 2:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Each is just another potential point of failure. The solar panels don't increase battery life. They're intended as a fail safe in the event the battery dies. I'd prefer to change the battery at regular intervals and not have shake-awake and solar panels. It's just my personal preference. Obviously, a lot of guys swear by them (Holosun). Not my cup of tea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By Space-Cadet: Why? They're proven technology that add even more run time to the system. Well might as well get rid of buttons since it is a point of failure too... Oh wait, batteries are as well. They leak or become susceptible to environmental factors..  “Solar Failsafe allows the red dot sight to remain powered when your battery fails. Holosun optics with Solar Failsafe feature automatic brightness adjustment; when you’re under the sun you have a bright reticle, when you move indoors it will automatically dim down to match ambient lighting conditions” You know what is pretty cool? Take the battery out of a Holosun with solar, see how much light of any kind will display the reticle... |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 2:23:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Space-Cadet: Originally Posted By 762AR25: Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Each is just another potential point of failure. The solar panels don't increase battery life. They're intended as a fail safe in the event the battery dies. I'd prefer to change the battery at regular intervals and not have shake-awake and solar panels. It's just my personal preference. Obviously, a lot of guys swear by them (Holosun). Not my cup of tea. Yep. Additional failure points for zero gain. How do you figure it's zero gain exactly? Extending the life of the battery by putting the optic in stand-by during the hours you're not carrying the gun adds those hours to the usable time per battery. If the battery does die at some point, the optic still functions. How is this zero gain? Because if Trijicon came up with it, people would be feverishly masterbating to the Trijicon gods of how amazing it is. But they didn’t so they crap on it. Honestly if the stupid excuse of “failure point” is their main concern then they should get rid of the LED model of the RMR they have and switch to the first RMR with tritium/fiber optic type since A) battery and B) circuit board are two failure points... |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 6:45:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Fooboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Because if Trijicon came up with it, people would be feverishly masterbating to the Trijicon gods of how amazing it is. But they didn't so they crap on it. Honestly if the stupid excuse of "failure point" is their main concern then they should get rid of the LED model of the RMR they have and switch to the first RMR with tritium/fiber optic type since A) battery and B) circuit board are two failure points... If battery life for modern red dots was only a few days or maybe weeks - I'd say shake awake and solar panels would be game changers. But this isn't the case. You can leave them on for years at a time. So why introduce these "features" that add cost and complexity when battery life is so insanely long and a replacement coin cell is 50 cents? Especially on a pistol red dot, every single component and solder point has to stand up to a lot of G forces, temp swings, etc. If it reduces reliability even a tiny bit it's not worth it. If it adds more than 50 cents to the cost it's not worth it. Its a solution in search of a problem. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 7:08:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Well might as well get rid of buttons since it is a point of failure too... You might be on to something  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 7:30:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: triburst1]
[#46]
I’ve got RMRs on my carry guns.
I just bought a Pac Lite upper to run with a suppressor on my Ruger MkII. I’m looking to add mini red dot to that pistol as well. I won’t be carrying it as a defensive tool and it doesn’t need to endure the punishment of a slide mounted centerfire gun. What would be some good lighter duty options? |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 7:37:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By triburst1: I've got RMRs on my carry guns. I just bought a Pac Lite upper to run with a suppressor on my Ruger MkII. I'm looking to add mini red dot to that pistol as well. I won't be carrying it as a defensive tool and it doesn't need to endure the punishment of a slide mounted centerfire gun. What would be some good lighter duty options for optics? |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 10:13:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Burris or Vortex make some great ones and will replace if you have issues. Buddy has shot a fast fire for years in uspsa and 3 gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By triburst1: I've got RMRs on my carry guns. I just bought a Pac Lite upper to run with a suppressor on my Ruger MkII. I'm looking to add mini red dot to that pistol as well. I won't be carrying it as a defensive tool and it doesn't need to endure the punishment of a slide mounted centerfire gun. What would be some good lighter duty options for optics? I was considering a Burris Fastfire III but I'll take a look at the Vortex as well. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 10:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: If battery life for modern red dots was only a few days or maybe weeks - I'd say shake awake and solar panels would be game changers. But this isn't the case. You can leave them on for years at a time. So why introduce these "features" that add cost and complexity when battery life is so insanely long and a replacement coin cell is 50 cents? Especially on a pistol red dot, every single component and solder point has to stand up to a lot of G forces, temp swings, etc. If it reduces reliability even a tiny bit it's not worth it. If it adds more than 50 cents to the cost it's not worth it. Its a solution in search of a problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fooboy: Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Because if Trijicon came up with it, people would be feverishly masterbating to the Trijicon gods of how amazing it is. But they didn't so they crap on it. Honestly if the stupid excuse of "failure point" is their main concern then they should get rid of the LED model of the RMR they have and switch to the first RMR with tritium/fiber optic type since A) battery and B) circuit board are two failure points... If battery life for modern red dots was only a few days or maybe weeks - I'd say shake awake and solar panels would be game changers. But this isn't the case. You can leave them on for years at a time. So why introduce these "features" that add cost and complexity when battery life is so insanely long and a replacement coin cell is 50 cents? Especially on a pistol red dot, every single component and solder point has to stand up to a lot of G forces, temp swings, etc. If it reduces reliability even a tiny bit it's not worth it. If it adds more than 50 cents to the cost it's not worth it. Its a solution in search of a problem. And when that 50¢ battery prematurely fails and or leaks rendering it useless? Remember that each component on the circuit board, along with the battery connectors are soldered on so by your argument the Trijicon is just as prone to having those fail too. |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 10:48:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackal-FnM: And when that 50 battery prematurely fails and or leaks rendering it useless? |
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