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Posted: 8/11/2017 8:06:23 PM EDT
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Well, I don't own one, was thinking about it, though. But, my little brother traded in his Walther for a p320. It was, and likely still is, a good gun. I do like it more than my glock 19.
But I find out this shit, and i absolutely did warn him about it. And one can say to simply, "Well, just don't drip it!" Which is about the same as ,"Well, don't hit the deer when it jumps out in the road at 9:30 at night!" |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 11:18:06 PM EDT
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You don't own one so why do you care ? 7) Posting topics or discussions that do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics and or replies meant to disrupt the Site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or the ability of the Site to function normally. This can include but is not limited to posting overly large photos or .gif files, excessive emoticons, or the use of repetitive or overly long text strings. It can also be the posting of threads or replies, in which it appears that the sole purpose is to provoke other members, or to damage the image and/or reputation of the site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The gun is 100% safe as is." Fuck Sig. 7) Posting topics or discussions that do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics and or replies meant to disrupt the Site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or the ability of the Site to function normally. This can include but is not limited to posting overly large photos or .gif files, excessive emoticons, or the use of repetitive or overly long text strings. It can also be the posting of threads or replies, in which it appears that the sole purpose is to provoke other members, or to damage the image and/or reputation of the site. I have friends who bought P320s, and I have friends who are going to be issued and carrying M17s. Am I not allowed to express displeasure when a company blatantly lies to customers? |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 9:09:41 AM EDT
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Just his dry sense of humor. No different than making fun of your friend driving a Chevy, ect. I ran into him at the LGS and he was cool, a lot less abrasive in person. |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 9:14:17 AM EDT
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I don't own the P320 anymore BUT I sold it to a friend that does not really do online gun forums. I told him about it as soon as I found out and asked him to call sig for the recall, er- I mean "upgrade"
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Posted: 8/12/2017 9:15:19 AM EDT
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I also didn't send off anything to be Cerakoted by Olympic, but I'm still upset with them. I also didn't buy anything from Mako Group, but I'm still upset with them. I have friends who bought P320s, and I have friends who are going to be issued and carrying M17s. Am I not allowed to express displeasure when a company blatantly lies to customers? And I get where you are coming from- we are enthusiasts |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 9:29:20 AM EDT
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P10c won't have this problem because it is a partial tension strike fire pistol with a tigger safety/tab like glock. Both ppq and vp9 are full tension strike fire pistol and will drop the striker like the p320 when experiencing a hard hit or shock. However these two pistol will not fire because they have a functioning fire block safety to stop the fire pin from moving forward. Let me find the videos and thread for you. Ppq thread video is on the first post. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26913-Return-of-Mallet-Mallet-vs-PPQ Vp9 thread video is on the fifth post. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?26543-VP9-dead-trigger-due-to-impact-issue-(split-from-Personal-SIG-320-Journey-thread) |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 9:56:06 AM EDT
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I also didn't send off anything to be Cerakoted by Olympic, but I'm still upset with them. I also didn't buy anything from Mako Group, but I'm still upset with them. I have friends who bought P320s, and I have friends who are going to be issued and carrying M17s. Am I not allowed to express displeasure when a company blatantly lies to customers? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The gun is 100% safe as is." Fuck Sig. 7) Posting topics or discussions that do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics and or replies meant to disrupt the Site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or the ability of the Site to function normally. This can include but is not limited to posting overly large photos or .gif files, excessive emoticons, or the use of repetitive or overly long text strings. It can also be the posting of threads or replies, in which it appears that the sole purpose is to provoke other members, or to damage the image and/or reputation of the site. I have friends who bought P320s, and I have friends who are going to be issued and carrying M17s. Am I not allowed to express displeasure when a company blatantly lies to customers? I don't see any 320 owners throwing fits. |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 11:09:53 AM EDT
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Why you so mad bro? I don't see any 320 owners throwing fits. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"The gun is 100% safe as is." Fuck Sig. 7) Posting topics or discussions that do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics and or replies meant to disrupt the Site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or the ability of the Site to function normally. This can include but is not limited to posting overly large photos or .gif files, excessive emoticons, or the use of repetitive or overly long text strings. It can also be the posting of threads or replies, in which it appears that the sole purpose is to provoke other members, or to damage the image and/or reputation of the site. I have friends who bought P320s, and I have friends who are going to be issued and carrying M17s. Am I not allowed to express displeasure when a company blatantly lies to customers? I don't see any 320 owners throwing fits. |
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Posted: 8/12/2017 11:14:08 AM EDT
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Apex stated they did this with triggers and couldn't replicate it. I hope mine is GTG with their flat trigger. Anyone try that yet? |
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Posted: 8/13/2017 4:27:32 PM EDT
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For those who watched the hammer strike on the back of the slide video I strongly suggest you watch and listen to this carefully. I own Glock's and a 320. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtwzXu9dizo&t=322s I'am a tad computer illiterate and can't get the link hot, the Yankee Marshall refutes TFB's hammer test SIG P320 hammer test calling out TFB is the title. More importantly, I can't believe Sig is calling this a voluntary upgrade. WTF? What are they thinking? Totally asinine. It should be a mandatory recall. Doesn't matter if any "hammer test" was not done the way some blowhard youtuber would like it done. It fires when dropped. Repeatedly. Case closed. |
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Posted: 8/13/2017 5:35:26 PM EDT
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For what it's worth:
My son owns a SIG P320 Compact 9mm w/the APEX flat trigger. After reading some of these threads about the P320 going off when dropped, I decided to test it myself on his. I loaded up a 15rd mag w/14rds of 124gr FMJ topped off w/a snap cap. Chambered a separate snap cap before seating the loaded mag. As suggested, I held the P320 hanging by the trigger guard w/the rear of the slide a measured 4' off the carpeted floor. It required 17 careful attempts to get 10 solid hits on the rear of the slide as seen in the various posted videos. Trigger was checked and reset after every attempt. End result: At no time did the trigger move enough to drop the striker, it still required a full pull of the trigger to do so. This could be due to using a Compact, or the APEX flat trigger, both or ??? I do not claim this was scientific testing, but thought I would post the result for those who might be interested. Tomac |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 10:25:24 AM EDT
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When it comes to Sig's no one is more respected than Bruce Gray . He has done 2 of my Sigs in the past and his work is above and beyond excellent . Bruce Gray claims there is no problem . Big discussion on the Sig forum on this post page 6 by Bruce Gray . Behold my Radiance! Picture of Grayguns posted August 05, 2017 03:08 PMAugust 05, 2017 03:08 PM Hide Post I am here to tell you that there is no safety issues with the P320. There was no incident, ND, or failure of a P320 of any sort that prompted the memo by Lt. Williamson. DPD does not have any in their inventory, has never tested it, has only a couple officers carrying it so far, and none have had any issues. The memo was simply addressing some outdated legacy language that inexplicably made it's way into one of the P320 owner's manuals. In doing due diligence just as I would have, this was questioned, SIG responded to clarify, and it was over. All reports and online discussions to follow trace back to an article published by gunmagwarehouse.com. There was a headline stating "SIG SAUER P320 Fails Drop Test." In the article, the author reports that an anonymous reliable source within DPD stated that a P320 ND'd during training, among other inflammatory implications that proved not to be true. I reached out, speaking for myself and Grayguns Inc., to this author on Tuesday to offer factual, verifiable information or an interview, but was rebuffed. This erroneous story was then reposted and repeated widely. I and others knew this entire thing was bullshit from the start, but the author of this hyped up and apparently fabricated non-story from an "anonymous source" was not interested in hearing verifiable information, on the record. And, for that record, there has never been a verified instance of any P320 firing when dropped out of the nearly 350,000 sold to date, much less a factory-spec pistol. I have looked for such reports and followed up on everything I find, for three solud years. It hasn't happened. The recent YouTube video pupirtibg to show a "P320 drop test" failure is an obvious fake. I have personally bounced these puppies off of everything I can find. No go bang, ever. This crap needs to be dismissed. The P320 is safe. -Bruce Designer and custom pistolsmith at Grayguns Inc. Privileged to be R&D consultant to the world's greatest maker of fine firearms. Now: Get some Lucas Extreme Duty Grease from Top Gun Supply and SIG Pro Shop, dammit! And remember: MOAC is coming again in 2017! Visit us at http://opspectraining.com/product-cat/videos/ to order yours, and Thank You for making GGI the leader in custom SIG and HK pistols. Bruce Gray, President Grayguns Inc. Grayguns.com / 541-468-3840 https://www.sigsauer.com/support/p320-voluntary-upgrade-program/ |
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