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Posted: 7/20/2017 4:34:22 PM EDT
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and you can't admit it isn't since major components don't interchange for the obvious reason. You just got to love some millennials. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/20/2017 6:41:56 PM EDT
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You can copy something without having parts interchange. That's kind of a stupid thing to use as proof. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/20/2017 7:16:20 PM EDT
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Taurus PT-92 is a copy of the Beretta 92. Parts don't interchange. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/20/2017 8:19:41 PM EDT
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Yeah. Original Canik TP9 is a copy of the Walther P99. Parts don't interchange, save for like a firing pin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fanboy got riled up! You just got to love some millennials. The Astra Constable 380 is a clone of the Walther PPK. Parts don't interchange. |
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Posted: 7/20/2017 9:02:54 PM EDT
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Taurus PT-92 is a copy of the Beretta 92. Parts don't interchange. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 9:43:49 PM EDT
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Folks use the terms "copy/clone" very loosely.
A real copy/clone is a exact/near-duplicate with total or near-total parts interchange. Pistols may look like another but if they don't interchange it's not a copy but a "look-a-like", or at best a derivative. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 9:54:17 PM EDT
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Stick to what has been proven. Glock,Beretta,S&W, Sig Sauer etc.
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Posted: 7/21/2017 10:02:32 PM EDT
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Folks use the terms "copy/clone" very loosely. A real copy/clone is a exact/near-duplicate with total or near-total parts interchange. Pistols may look like another but if they don't interchange it's not a copy but a "look-a-like", or at best a derivative. |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 10:03:10 PM EDT
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Let's stop going after "millennials" here and leave the thread or forum if you can't discuss the technical merits of handguns without resorting to personal insults.
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Posted: 7/21/2017 11:19:00 PM EDT
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Folks use the terms "copy/clone" very loosely. A real copy/clone is a exact/near-duplicate with total or near-total parts interchange. Pistols may look like another but if they don't interchange it's not a copy but a "look-a-like", or at best a derivative. |
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Posted: 9/15/2017 7:15:06 AM EDT
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Well...I finished buying up two P320s. A full-size (for me) and a compact (for her). And I also ordered a Norinco clone of the P226, just to make some try.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 8:28:44 AM EDT
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It might be a good gun but will spare parts always be around like the major manufacturers?
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Posted: 9/15/2017 11:42:52 AM EDT
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Yeah... It's why I went to the P320.
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Posted: 9/15/2017 3:37:55 PM EDT
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Yeah... It's why I went to the P320. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 10:48:01 AM EDT
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Thank you for your input. Currently, I am working with a P-09 that I bought for about 600USD. A Rex Zero 1 will be about 700USD...and I'm decided to buy a new firearm this year but I am still undecided. Still, your various inputs lead me either to a P320 or a Rex. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 11:32:01 AM EDT
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For me, I don't see it being a $600.00 gun. I am not saying they don't have an investment in it or that it is a bad gun but at that price range, I would venture with another brand. It is nice to see another American pistol come to the market. I have tried a few new pistols for their time- Nitescout-(although it was first named something else when I bought it),KRISS 45 and a few others. Other than the KRISS, the other brands have come and gone with not much support left. My fear would be to spend a decent amount of money on a pistol just to have it go to waste when the support goes away. If parts could interchange, that would be a little different.
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Posted: 9/16/2017 12:10:51 PM EDT
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Do these take a proprietary magazine?
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Posted: 9/16/2017 4:58:54 PM EDT
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Do these take a proprietary magazine? |
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Posted: 9/21/2017 8:03:15 PM EDT
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First of all I followed the pistol closely once it was announced in communications with both the FIME Group and KVAR, and they were "never advertised" as a "piss cheap gun" in the $300-400 range. Perhaps the previous folks have it confused with another pistol. The MAC review and tests have been very positive, and my experience with mine supports the MAC findings. People who are complaining about the prices have been in the polymer pistol realm way too long and have not watched any of their factory tour/build process videos. They'd know that there is no way this gun would be below $600 on the market. There QC is top notch. Rex is also not a new company that decided to build a gun over night. They've been making firearm components for years for military contracts. MAC also showed that the Zero is more reliable than the Sig Legion 226. TFB just did a video where they shot the new 4" model and literally threw it in mud water and continued to shoot like nothing happened. A 226 would have failed. Based off current industry news on all the recalls, at this point I would rather take a REX to war instead of a Sig. I myself have not found a single negative review on the gun. |
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Posted: 9/22/2017 6:47:44 AM EDT
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at this point I would rather take a REX to war instead of a Sig. . 
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Posted: 9/22/2017 5:37:59 PM EDT
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Well...I finished buying up two P320s. A full-size (for me) and a compact (for her). And I also ordered a Norinco clone of the P226, just to make some try. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 1:25:17 AM EDT
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Norinco is offering a P226 clone and a P228 also.
There is, in the catalog of the German importer (Norconia), a P226-style chambered in 7.62x25 also. A curiosity, for sure ! In the M1911, they are making standard 1911A1 but also a hi-cap, Para-Ordnance magazine compatible, a 9mm, a .45 Commander-style...and those are low priced. The current price for the P226 is 445€, with the proof firing in Belgium. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 2:43:25 AM EDT
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And I'd rather take a Glock than either of those ^^^ But, the point is moot since civilians will never be involved in the "war" and a pistol would be about useless anyways if it came to that. I get in and out of up-armored Helix and Land Cruisers (6'3 and in full kit) on the daily with my primary being a 16" AR, so I'll just take what you feel as "useless" as an opinion because surely you can't be speaking for everyone, especially not me. So the point isn't "moot", your baseless idea of a sidearm being "useless" is just subjective. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 2:55:04 AM EDT
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+1 with you.
I have been in situation where all I had was an Hi-Power. And I was really glad to have it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 3:11:41 AM EDT
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Norinco is offering a P226 clone and a P228 also. There is, in the catalog of the German importer (Norconia), a P226-style chambered in 7.62x25 also. A curiosity, for sure ! In the M1911, they are making standard 1911A1 but also a hi-cap, Para-Ordnance magazine compatible, a 9mm, a .45 Commander-style...and those are low priced. The current price for the P226 is 445€, with the proof firing in Belgium. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 3:29:49 AM EDT
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+1 with you. I have been in situation where all I had was an Hi-Power. And I was really glad to have it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 4:49:25 AM EDT
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I'd jump all over a 7.62x25 P series style pistol. That's just stupid enough for me to need. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 5:11:55 AM EDT
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^This People who are complaining about the prices have been in the polymer pistol realm way too long and have not watched any of their factory tour/build process videos. They'd know that there is no way this gun would be below $600 on the market. There QC is top notch. Rex is also not a new company that decided to build a gun over night. They've been making firearm components for years for military contracts. MAC also showed that the Zero is more reliable than the Sig Legion 226. TFB just did a video where they shot the new 4" model and literally threw it in mud water and continued to shoot like nothing happened. A 226 would have failed. Based off current industry news on all the recalls, at this point I would rather take a REX to war instead of a Sig. I myself have not found a single negative review on the gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First of all I followed the pistol closely once it was announced in communications with both the FIME Group and KVAR, and they were "never advertised" as a "piss cheap gun" in the $300-400 range. Perhaps the previous folks have it confused with another pistol. The MAC review and tests have been very positive, and my experience with mine supports the MAC findings. People who are complaining about the prices have been in the polymer pistol realm way too long and have not watched any of their factory tour/build process videos. They'd know that there is no way this gun would be below $600 on the market. There QC is top notch. Rex is also not a new company that decided to build a gun over night. They've been making firearm components for years for military contracts. MAC also showed that the Zero is more reliable than the Sig Legion 226. TFB just did a video where they shot the new 4" model and literally threw it in mud water and continued to shoot like nothing happened. A 226 would have failed. Based off current industry news on all the recalls, at this point I would rather take a REX to war instead of a Sig. I myself have not found a single negative review on the gun. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 6:13:52 AM EDT
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The Norinco/Norconia PX-3, a P-226 style handgun, chambered in 7.62x25:
I went the P320 way but, still, I wonder if I wouldn't buy a Rex to give it a fair trial by myself. I will order a couple of spare parts, just in case of. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 8:30:58 AM EDT
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do you have 30K rounds of 9mm on tap? Do you own a pistol that you have fired 30K rounds through? Just curious. |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 9:47:36 AM EDT
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When you think of everything it takes to carry a pistol, and everything we've added to them to make them better fighting guns.....paying the same $ as you would for a widely supported firearm for a gun that is probably a dead end......doesn't make practical sense if you intend to actually use the thing.
At least that's where I'm at with this thing. When you buy a pistol, you are committing to buying mags, at least one (probably 2-6) holster(s). By buying into an established pistol design, you reduce your difficulty and cost in outfitting the thing for use. And it's not even a brand thing, it's a brand and model thing. But when you buy into one of the established lines, you are paying a little more up front in some cases, but you are getting more development for less $ in the long run, you will have easy and current support for that firearm for many more years than these other pistols. So, does that matter to you? Dunno, but in a purely practical sense........why pay more for something that represents more cost and risk? |
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Posted: 9/23/2017 1:33:07 PM EDT
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If you use the slide stop to drop the slide on a fresh mag, does it decock the gun?
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Posted: 9/23/2017 2:44:03 PM EDT
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Nope. Decocking is performed by pushing the slide stop upward.
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Posted: 9/23/2017 2:49:50 PM EDT
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The K-var website says that it can be operated cocked and locked or DA/SA. Is it traditional SA cocked and locked with the safety in the up position?
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Posted: 9/23/2017 4:23:06 PM EDT
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The K-var website says that it can be operated cocked and locked or DA/SA. Is it traditional SA cocked and locked with the safety in the up position? |
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Posted: 9/24/2017 4:50:21 AM EDT
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Nope. Decocking is performed by pushing the slide stop upward. |
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Posted: 9/24/2017 4:51:01 AM EDT
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If you use the slide stop to drop the slide on a fresh mag, does it decock the gun? |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 4:24:50 PM EDT
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Looks like a cool pistol but at $600 that's approaching Sig prices.
That's like buying a $300 Chinese optic when you can get an Aimpoint for close to the same price. If it gets below $500 I might be interested but then again I can buy a brand new Glock in that range. |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 9:38:03 PM EDT
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Looks like a cool pistol but at $600 that's approaching Sig prices. That's like buying a $300 Chinese optic when you can get an Aimpoint for close to the same price. If it gets below $500 I might be interested but then again I can buy a brand new Glock in that range. |
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Posted: 9/26/2017 6:35:27 AM EDT
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It's also better than a Sig. |
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Posted: 9/26/2017 7:39:21 PM EDT
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be sure to write that in your sale ad when you go to sell it... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's also better than a Sig. |
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Posted: 9/26/2017 8:15:26 PM EDT
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NO NSN NUMBER NO CARE.
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Posted: 9/27/2017 12:13:23 AM EDT
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It's also better than a Sig. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like a cool pistol but at $600 that's approaching Sig prices. That's like buying a $300 Chinese optic when you can get an Aimpoint for close to the same price. If it gets below $500 I might be interested but then again I can buy a brand new Glock in that range. |
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