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Posted: 3/11/2017 4:08:09 PM EDT
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The "tacticool" crowd doesn't influence the market?
It's there, use it or don't I guess. I don't, but there's nothing wrong with using it, nothing wrong with the Teacup method either. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 4:48:11 PM EDT
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The "tacticool" crowd doesn't influence the market? It's there, use it or don't I guess. I don't, but there's nothing wrong with using it, nothing wrong with the Teacup method either. Biomechanicaly speaking there is a lot wrong with the teacup hold. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 5:52:33 PM EDT
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I've had Instructors thatare saying the Squared trigger guard is so you can use it for support by pressing it against something. ie: Doorframe, Post, Tree, Car door etc.
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Posted: 3/11/2017 6:06:35 PM EDT
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I've had Instructors thatare saying the Squared trigger guard is so you can use it for support by pressing it against something. ie: Doorframe, Post, Tree, Car door etc. Well that makes some sense. Never really thought about that. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 6:37:09 PM EDT
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Well that makes some sense. Never really thought about that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've had Instructors thatare saying the Squared trigger guard is so you can use it for support by pressing it against something. ie: Doorframe, Post, Tree, Car door etc. Well that makes some sense. Never really thought about that. What he said. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 7:29:44 PM EDT
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I have read and been told many times that the old school off hand finger on the trigger guard hold was no longerthe standard and that the thumb forward grip is now the go to method. So if this is so then why are all of the current "tactical" pistols (Glocks, Sig, M&P) made with the square trigger guard? IMHO. So training places can get people back to retrain for the new shooting method. If you hit what you are aiming at, who cares what the method is. Do what ever you are comfortable with. |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2017 8:35:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2017 8:49:53 PM EDT
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I've been shooting the practical pistol games since 1982....in my early days, I took suggestions from any experienced shooters I could talk to...shooting a 1911, I found that I was much more stable in a relaxed isosceles than a "Weaver" stance with my strong elbow slightly rolled up to lock my wrist... additionally helpful was hooking the trigger guard to help negate any side to side motion at my wrists, and I've continued to do so for the remaining years, regardless of what the "experts" say...once upon a time I actually earned a Limited M card with a single stack 1911 using an "incorrect" grip ...I've since transitioned to the thumb forward grip still retaining the hooked trigger guard... YMMV Les L747
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:55:02 AM EDT
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I have read and been told many times that the old school off hand finger on the trigger guard hold was no longerthe standard and that the thumb forward grip is now the go to method. So if this is so then why are all of the current "tactical" pistols (Glocks, Sig, M&P) made with the square trigger guard? I do an extreme thumbs forward grip AND my off hand finger on the trigger guard holding it. Has worked very good for me.  No idea why I do it, but always have. Feels natural and I can get my hand a bit higher it seems.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:58:18 AM EDT
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Biomechanicaly speaking there is a lot wrong with the teacup hold. There are tons of golfers that have "wrong" swings...But get the job done well. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 10:26:37 AM EDT
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Squared off trigger guards also allow a weapon light to sit flush against the trigger guard. This is why Beretta squared off the M9A1 trigger guard when they added a rail.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 12:12:17 PM EDT
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It also helps keep your support hand in place where it might tend to ride up a rounded trigger guard.
When I was watching Jerry Barnhart's videos years back, he talked about how he learned to shoot with a finger around the front of the trigger guard. He said he wouldn't recommend anyone learn to shoot that way, but it was too late for him to change. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 12:28:58 PM EDT
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There are tons of golfers that have "wrong" swings...But get the job done well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Biomechanicaly speaking there is a lot wrong with the teacup hold. There are tons of golfers that have "wrong" swings...But get the job done well. There's always outlayers. Anybody winning competitions with a tea cup hold? |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 12:29:50 PM EDT
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Squared off trigger guards also allow a weapon light to sit flush against the trigger guard. This is why Beretta squared off the M9A1 trigger guard when they added a rail. Umm, the 92fs and m9 both have the squared off trigger guard as well |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 12:31:55 PM EDT
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Umm, the 92fs and m9 both have the squared off trigger guard as well Yes but they didn't always allow lights to sit flush like the M9A1 and M9A3 do. That was an answer to the OPs question about why do companies still do it. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 4:17:33 PM EDT
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True. Come to think of it I believe you may have the answer. Of the models that I mentioned, everyone has a rail on the dust cover.
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Posted: 3/12/2017 7:49:25 PM EDT
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Biomechanicaly speaking there is a lot wrong with the teacup hold. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "tacticool" crowd doesn't influence the market? It's there, use it or don't I guess. I don't, but there's nothing wrong with using it, nothing wrong with the Teacup method either. Biomechanicaly speaking there is a lot wrong with the teacup hold. |
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Posted: 3/12/2017 8:42:16 PM EDT
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Yes but they didn't always allow lights to sit flush like the M9A1 and M9A3 do. That was an answer to the OPs question about why do companies still do it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Umm, the 92fs and m9 both have the squared off trigger guard as well Yes but they didn't always allow lights to sit flush like the M9A1 and M9A3 do. That was an answer to the OPs question about why do companies still do it. Got it. Sorry I meant misunderstood |
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Posted: 3/18/2017 11:59:54 AM EDT
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Jerry uses it.
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Posted: 3/18/2017 2:11:01 PM EDT
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I've had Instructors thatare saying the Squared trigger guard is so you can use it for support by pressing it against something. ie: Doorframe, Post, Tree, Car door etc. Even Gaston Glock incorporated that feature on the G17. |
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