Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
Originally Posted By ThePirate:
Mine has been OK with it too. Many have had some light strikes, and not just with Kel-Tecs. It is no big deal in practice, but if I were going to carry FMJ, I would pick something else.
i wouldnt carry 380 FMJ anyway, regardless of reliability. Just not enough dammage, and with only 7 shots, i need some serious knockdown power in one shot
There is no such thing as "knockdown power" in any pistol round.
.380 ACP is an anemic round. In JHP they tend to underpenetrate badly. FMJ is the only ammunition that meets the IWBA/FBI minimum penetration standards. The P3AT is a BUG or deep concealment gun. You need to know its severe limitations in regards to incapacitation potential, and plan accordingly.
I personally do not believe the "IWBA/FBI minimum penetration standards" make a lot of sense for my needs in a pocket pistol for self-defense. I have read a lot of what they have to say, but something is missing from their understanding of bullet wounds IMO. I also find it rather amazing that they claim 2000 fps as some sort of almost "magical" threshold where all sorts of effects they cannot deny the existence of suddenly start to happen. Plenty of people have defended themselves with pocket pistol calibers over the years, "anemic" or not.
Originally Posted By spd2230:
Santa Barbara...do a search at KTOG.org. This stuff is hot, hot, hot and very inexpensive. I have run ~150 rounds of this ammo through my P3AT with zero problems, some guys on KTOG use it exclusively.
I have used this stuff, and wouldn't carry it. Yes, it is hot. But if I am going to carry something that will not expand, I think I will opt for something not stored improperly (corroded cases and bullets, inconsistent velocities) for the last quarter century or so. AFAIK, any modern FMJ/TMJ ammo will penetrate to IWBA/FBI standards anyway (if that is what you are after), why deal with the extra muzzle flip, noise, and blast from the Santa Barbara? Over at KTOG, many posters don't shoot it even for practice due to the battering it can give a P-3AT after just a little use; others are waiting for Wolff to come out with stiffer recoil springs before they will try it.