Wow that is a glowing review, thanks for sharing.  Have you noticed anything that you dislike?

Not really, so far it seems to fit my personal criteria just as well as my glocks, except for duty holster compatibility, but that will improve in the future I'm sure.  

TXPO

Im excited to see what CZ custom and CGW will have to offer for these down the road.

TXPO:  
Glad to see it's not really as tall as a G17 like some of the rumors.  
Can you describe the grip a bit more.  I LOVE the (small-back-plate) VP9, and the P30 is pretty good; however, Glocks feel too rectangular--even though I shoot them well--and M&Ps feel too "long" front-to-back, and the P07/09 felt too Glock-blocky as well (I did like the P320's small frame-compact).

If this grip can get as small and nice-feeling as a VP9, I may have found my dream-carry gun.  I'm just picky about grips (if I remember correctly, you are a master at reworking glock grips).

It is virtually the same as the G19, honestly, I will try and get some shots of me holding it compared to my 19.  My fingers fill the front strap of both guns equally, they are the same length up front.  The backstrap of the P10 is slightly longer,again it shrouds the bottom of the magazine, where as the glocks backstrap is even cut at an angle to reduce its length.  The only added length in the slide is in the rear section that is over the web of the hand.  The barrels are exactly the same length as well as the slide from the ejection port forward.   The P10 is IMO the perfect size for a CCW and duty pistol, much like the 19.  If the little added length in the P10's grip prevents someone from carrying it over a 19, then they should re evaluate their carry gear.  Width wise, the P10 is thinner and it feels and looks it when you hold them side by side.  

With the small backstrap, it feels small even in my medium to small hands,and it feels smaller than the VP9 with the small bacstrap.  I like it, but I think I actually prefer the medium, its a preference thing.  The overall feel of the grip is very much like the VP9, P30 or PPQ as far as it's geometry to the hand.  Is it fits very well front to back, and with the slight palm swells you don't have that void on the sides of your hands when holding it.  I know what you mean with the M&P it felt long front to back and my palms always felt like they weren't touching the grip.  The P10 is nothing like that.  It is rounded in all the right places, and fills the hand very well.  I would not be surprised if they studied the human hands anatomy, cause it fits that well.   It doesn't even feel bad with the large backstrap.  

The backstraps on the P10 really extend the mid section and bottom of the grip.  The top portion remains the same so it doesn't really effect finger to trigger placement.  Now, the texturing is aggressive, but not painfully so IMO, some will likely find it too aggressive and will have to hit it with some sandpaper lightly to knock off the edges.  The front and back is more aggressive than the sides.  The sides are very much like a 4th gen glock grip feel.   The closet thing I can think of is the backstrap on the FNS.  It has a pretty aggressive pattern and the P10's front and back feel about the same.  

After holding and playing around with the P10 the past few days, when I hold my G19 now it feels clunky, thick, and dated.  It's the difference between having a piece of sports gear fitted to you, or wearing something of the shelf at Academy, it's that much of a difference.  

TXPO

Thanks!
Yeah, I'm fine with the size and length.  I was shocked that the VP9 felt better than my G19 when IWB (I'm guessing the holster just carried it better and the grip was a bit less abrasive than my stippled G19).  I just noticed after shooting P320s, VP9s, and the G43 for a few months without touching the G19 that there IS something to be said for a gun that fits well and feels good--though I will always own the 19, and that rectangular grip seems to help me index it fast on the draw.  

I'm on a few "back in stock" lists--but prices range from $479 to $529 for the basic black.
So far this is sounding like my perfect compact carry assuming wwe don't find any beta-test bugs....NOW if only Trump will kill the suppressor and SBR regulations, I'll be set.  And broke.

I went looking for one today at a couple local shops. They didn't have them yet. The one shop I like has a pretty good selection of cool stuff. They had the Tavor x95 in all the colors, scar 16s in stock etc. I was going to get a gen 3 17 but that they didn't have. Lol.

Yeah I hear ya, even though the 19 feels strange after holding the P10, I know I can run it well.  For all the glock isn't, it is still an outstanding combat platform and performs well when run at speed.  

TXPO

Is the grip angle similar to the G19 or 1911?

It is the same grip angle as the 1911


TXPO

Great line, thank you.

OP have you had a chance to discuss rmr mounting with CZ Custom Shop?

Tracking shows me getting my FDE this coming Monday !    
I plan to put a couple hundred rds through it Tue if it is on time and weather is decent

Awesome! This is a production gun, ordered through their LE/Mil program? When did you order?

When you get it, could you see if the night sights are actually tritium or just glow-in-the-dark? There's been some confusion and contradiction there.

 This is a production gun through my local shop not LE.
I was the second person on the list and he is getting 4 total on this order . 2 black and 2 FDE.  
  From the best of my understanding the FDE has tritium and the black does not. The FDE did cost more I'll let you know after I pick it up what the final total is.
I have a $100 deposit down

Cost doesn't concern me too much, but it's good info to put out. It's exciting to hear you're getting commercial production guns for regular shooters to buy. I can't wait to get the email that says mine is on its way.

The FDE media T&E guns seem to have photoluminescent paint "night sights", as seen in various videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zWm09BOrM&t=1011s
https://youtu.be/4gqr2epxaWk?t=6m34s

But the CZ-USA website definitely says tritium night sights for the FDE model. The suppressor ready's page says night sights but doesn't mention paint or tritium.

I contacted CZ support after seeing the videos on MAC and Sootch00 channels and they told me that those are the T&E guns so they do not have all of the options on production guns. They did confirm that the production FDE guns will have night sighs.


The pre-production models sent out for media purposes may not completely encompass all features intended for mainstream production. FDE models will ship with night sights.

Thank you,

Dereck Miller
Sales Assistant
800-955-4486 x 334
fax: 913-321-2251
CZ-USA

Dammit, CZ!
Make one G26 sized please.

Now if they could just make a full size 10mm
I'd settle for a 97b 10mm but I can't believe they don't have any in their line up aside from the Dan Wesson 1911.

Your review makes me want one. Now, just to find one. Lol

Where are you guys ordering your guns from?

All the idiot shops around me just tell me it's not available and can't order one.

Only 10mm CZ I know of right here.

https://youtu.be/iIK6cFPevmE

Alot of us are ordering directly through CZ via LE/Mil program

Those of us who are not ordering directly from CZ via LE/Mil purchase program happen to have dealers that make an in-house waiting list for the guns as they come in from their distributors. It's nothing official through CZ or distributors, just an agreement between you and the FFL.

One of the shops I spoke with said they had 50 on order.  In order to get one, they needed the payment up front as a deposit.  The deposit amount?  $599.  

I'd tell the to choke on em. Even Cabela's lists them at $499.

I'm guessing the CZ deal is just for active/retired mil?

"Program applies to all active and retired Public Safety and Military personnel." In one area they call it the "LE/MIL/First Responder Program", leading me to BELIEVE they'd be pretty lenient about fire/EMS/etc.

If you believe that might be you, send an email to Andrew Eager ([email protected]) or [email protected], or use their Contact Us form for more information.

Your credentials must include ONE of the following:
1.       Copy of Department Badge or ID Card/Active, Guard, Reserve Military ID/Retired issued ID card (benefit card or family ID card is not eligible, must say retired)
2.       Employment verification letter on department letter head
3.       Email from your military or department email address

Yup, paid $485 for mine up front (Includes taxes etc).

Was at Academy sports Friday, they show it in the system at $469, none in stock yet.

Did you have to go to the store or call them to find that price?  Is it lised online somewhere on Cabela's site?

It's on their website. Not in stock though.

For any of the guys that ordered the le/mil did they say how long it would take to get it?

Groovy.  I sent them an email and will report back.

Edit: So he responded, but I got the same canned response (3 forms of verification) despite sending my ID, DD214, and follow up questions. Hmm.

They're probably enroute to SHOT.

I inquired from my .gov email and they sent me links and instructions.
I followed the instructions on how to order the appreciation pack and got my customer number so I could order the gun off their mil/le link.
I emailed them a copy of my ID anyway with my FFL info.

I may make some rounds around the local shops today to see if they've gotten any yet. I'm guessing no but let's see.

I emailed CZ yesterday afternoon to set up my LE/Mil account.  They replied rather quickly and I got my FDE P-10c ordered today with 4 extra mags.  Now the wait begins

Didn't make it today looks like the labels were generated but not shipped when they thought.
I'll be gone tomorrow but hope I'll be picking up wed ..

Here are some caparison shots of the P10 and 4th gen G19.  My photography skills aren't all that, but this gives a better idea of how close these two pistols are.

Note finger placement on the front strap.  Also note how much further my fingers wrap around the P10 grip.



The 19 is using Magpul magazine, but the baseplates aren't much taller than the factory ones. Also note the bore axis, it is virtually identical.  





This is how much longer the grip on the P10 is, and it is only in the bckstrap area.


TXPO

Thanks for the comparison pictures.

Thanks TXPO!!
These pictures seal the deal for me.

Hopefully the LE/Mil orders ship soon.

What about weight?  Any lighter than a 19?

P10C 26oz
G19 21oz

Readily available on the manufacturer websites, faster and easier than asking.

Not when I'm browsing on my phone, already in this thread, and this was the last thing I read before I went to sleep.  Also, it does no harm to have this information in THIS thread.  Get over it.

Thanks for the grip photos TXPO!  

Eagerly awaiting mine.

I still plan on getting a gen4 Glock 32 and sending it your way for finger hump removal and undercut eventually. Just can't seem to get my chief to okay buying the 32 on uniform allowance...

Awesome pictures.  I could never reach the mag release on my Gen 4 19 but the P10C looks like a winner, and I already have holsters for it.  I think you guys just talked me into one!

I'm still waiting for them to ship to distributors..

Well this sucks.
 My local shop who is awesome called me Tuesday afternoon.  It seems like the P10c's were not with the shipment they had tracking for.
With SHOT etc going on it looks like they hadn't gotten word back from their rep on what happened.  I understand and I think they were more disappointment than me but what can you do it's a hot new pistol.
   I though I was going to get to be one of the cool kids and post my new toy before everyone got theirs
It was funny they asked if I wanted a refund . Hell no!  
    I have a range at home so when it gets here I'll be able to throw a few hundred rounds downrange and give give it a fair assessment.
I do make my own leather holsters that are boned to each pistols so it will be neat to see just how compatible they are.   One thing I did think was neat is I was able to rework a P-01 leather holster to fit a G19.
    You honestly can't tell it wasn't made for it.

You know, I expected exactly this... that there was a misunderstanding and your P10c wasn't actually on the way.... but I'm not any less disappointed after you confirmed it It seemed way too unlikely that one shop out of the whole country got five pistols before anyone else knew they were coming. Hopefully we get them soon.