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Posted: 12/11/2005 5:07:15 AM EDT
Anyone hearing the rumors of the XD in .45acp?

I was reading about it on xdtalk.com

This would be a nice offering from SA. Now if they'd offer conversion barrels to go from .45 to .357sig, etc, etc


Lex in NC

Link Posted: 12/11/2005 5:23:46 AM EDT
I asked them at SHOT show back in Jan, they said there was no plans at that time.



I will ask again in Feb.



Link Posted: 12/11/2005 5:15:42 PM EDT
Go to davidsons at www.galleryofguns.com do the gun finder and look up Springfield Armory, then click on the 45 AP not GAP and search. You will find a bunch of 1911`s and then the new stock numbers for the 45 automatic pistol XD.
Link Posted: 12/11/2005 6:20:59 PM EDT
Sweet! So it may happen?


Lex
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:30:31 AM EDT
I would think it would be a long shot. The reason that the XD is in .45 GAP is that the frame is too small to accommodate .45ACP. They would need to come out with a new, larger frame for a .45 ACP model. If they could keep the ergonomics almost identical to the current frame and make a .45 model (or better yet, a 10mm model), that would be pretty frickin' sweet.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:36:32 AM EDT
I hope so.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 10:39:24 AM EDT
I have reason to believe you will be seeing at the shot show.
Going to be bigger look at the capacity
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 2:01:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Doucheatron3000:
I would think it would be a long shot. The reason that the XD is in .45 GAP is that the frame is too small to accommodate .45ACP. They would need to come out with a new, larger frame for a .45 ACP model. If they could keep the ergonomics almost identical to the current frame and make a .45 model (or better yet, a 10mm model), that would be pretty frickin' sweet.



I would suspect if we see a .45 a.c.p. model we will also see a 10mm. I believe that 10mm's and 45 a.c.p.'s for the most part share the same frame dimensions. I will definitley buy another XD if the .45 a.c.p. and/or 10mm come to be.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 4:37:06 PM EDT
Would phone calls help? I was very disappointed when they came out with the GAP.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 5:35:26 PM EDT
Most 9/40 series pistols have completely different frames than their 45 brothers.

On a HK USP, you can, in theory, switch out a 40 cal slide and a 9mm slide to do a conversion.

The USP 45 frame is bigger.

You'd have all the same placement of features and such, but the frame would have to be wider and possibly beefed up.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 5:37:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By m193:
Would phone calls help? I was very disappointed when they came out with the GAP.



Might would. If enough of the shooting public showed interest by calling, writing letters and sending email they would at least consider it if they aren't already.

I'm sure it would sell, a lot of people want .45 but not a g.a.p. . I understand the concept of the g.a.p. but I personally have no use for it and prefer a.c.p. . Of course getting the Glock guys I know riled up by saying it only exists because gaston wanted his name on a cartridge is fun, which is not completely a tinfoil theory in my opinion.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 6:24:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ajamesp51:
Go to davidsons at www.galleryofguns.com do the gun finder and look up Springfield Armory, then click on the 45 AP not GAP and search. You will find a bunch of 1911`s and then the new stock numbers for the 45 automatic pistol XD.



YEAH BABY!!!

He's right as rain!!

wganz

Link Posted: 12/12/2005 6:58:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By ajamesp51:
Go to davidsons at www.galleryofguns.com do the gun finder and look up Springfield Armory, then click on the 45 AP not GAP and search. You will find a bunch of 1911`s and then the new stock numbers for the 45 automatic pistol XD.



YEAH BABY!!!

He's right as rain!!

wganz




Uh oh, might as well check to see if I can get one put on order for me. Hopefully it comes out after I get the money together for a .38 Super.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:44:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By ajamesp51:
Go to davidsons at www.galleryofguns.com do the gun finder and look up Springfield Armory, then click on the 45 AP not GAP and search. You will find a bunch of 1911`s and then the new stock numbers for the 45 automatic pistol XD.



YEAH BABY!!!

He's right as rain!!

wganz









Link Posted: 12/12/2005 11:06:09 PM EDT
Oh about the frame size......Davidson`s lists it as the xd L speculation was its the xd "l" as in large frame. The shot show is only a couple months away, thats the first booth I am running to.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 2:32:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ajamesp51:
Oh about the frame size......Davidson`s lists it as the xd L speculation was its the xd "l" as in large frame. The shot show is only a couple months away, thats the first booth I am running to.



And if they come out with a 'Sub Compact' Model, my wallet is going to be !

wganz

Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:08:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:

Originally Posted By ajamesp51:
Go to davidsons at www.galleryofguns.com do the gun finder and look up Springfield Armory, then click on the 45 AP not GAP and search. You will find a bunch of 1911`s and then the new stock numbers for the 45 automatic pistol XD.



YEAH BABY!!!

He's right as rain!!

wganz




My dreams have come true
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:01:50 AM EDT
I want one. Hope it comes true! I love the XD platform
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 10:52:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WolfFox:
I want one. Hope it comes true! I love the XD platform



Me too, I've been wanting a striker fired .45 acp for a while. Almost bought a G21, glad I didn't. I prefer the ergonomics of the XD over the Glock, feels more like a 1911 to me and I will admit that the grip safety is appealing. Prospects of a .45 acp XD makes them that much better.

I put 250 rounds through my XD this morning at the gun club, tons of fun. Noone was there so I set up 4 targets at different ranges and double tapped away( also nice to do since up until today I was shooting at a local public pay range and there was no double tapping or rapid fires AT ALL)
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:06:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 4:08:07 PM EDT by XD_Fan]
I thought this was old news. There will NOT be a .45ACP model. As for .45GAP, its been out in the Tactical model for a bit. I got to FF one a couple of weeks ago. Its listed on the SA site as being available in the service model now.

Service Model Page

It would be very cool to see it in a single stack .45ACP however. And its seem like it would be trivial to do. But with the results the .45GAP is showing I'm kinda like SA. What's the point? You can reload the .45GAP with same dies, frames stays a reasonable size and you get more capacity. I thought the .45GAP would be a flash in the pan but its looking more and more like a viable round for the long term. Too many 1911's and others in .45ACP for it to ever die though.

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:21:35 PM EDT
Ok so what is the big deal with 10mm.

To me it just looks like a .40 with a tad more brass to it.

Kinda like a 45acp vs 45 gap.


Please enlighten me.



Buzz.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:09:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
There will NOT beis a .45ACP model.



Check the specs at the link again.

Action: Double Action Only (USA Action Trigger System)
Stock: Lightweight Ultra High-Impact Polymer Frame
Capacity: 13+1
# of Mags: 2
Safety: Trigger, Firing Pin Drop & Grip Safety
Sights: Fixed Dovetail, Front & Rear
Add'l Features 1: Ambi-Magazine Release, Loaded Chamber Indicator
Add'l Features 2: Gear System = Holster, DBL Mag Pouch, Mag Loader
Packaging: Plastic Case, Cable Lock


If that ain't an XD, then WTF is it then???

wganz


Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:24:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Buzzstrike:
Ok so what is the big deal with 10mm.

To me it just looks like a .40 with a tad more brass to it.

Kinda like a 45acp vs 45 gap.


Please enlighten me.



Buzz.



About 200 more ftlbs of energy.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:15:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Buzzstrike:
Ok so what is the big deal with 10mm.

To me it just looks like a .40 with a tad more brass to it.

Kinda like a 45acp vs 45 gap.


Please enlighten me.



Buzz.



In true 10mm loads a BIG difference. High velocity and strong energy and lots of recoil. Most 10mm is loaded to near .40 S&W specs so there is no difference. But real 10mm is available. Here is some info from MidwayUSA

Buffalo Bore 180gr Speer Gold Dot JHP
10mm:
Muzzle Velocity: 1350 fps
Muzzle Energy: 728 ft. lbs.

Speer Gold Dot 180 gr JHP
.40 S&W:
Muzzle velocity: 985 fps
Muzzle energy: 400 ft/lb
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:32:32 AM EDT
Here it is facts Baby
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:34:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
I thought this was old news. There will NOT be a .45ACP model. As for .45GAP, its been out in the Tactical model for a bit. I got to FF one a couple of weeks ago. Its listed on the SA site as being available in the service model now.

Service Model Page

It would be very cool to see it in a single stack .45ACP however. And its seem like it would be trivial to do. But with the results the .45GAP is showing I'm kinda like SA. What's the point? You can reload the .45GAP with same dies, frames stays a reasonable size and you get more capacity. I thought the .45GAP would be a flash in the pan but its looking more and more like a viable round for the long term. Too many 1911's and others in .45ACP for it to ever die though.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/gap/4in/XD9504.jpg



Not this is acp
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:51:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RT_Performance:
Here it is facts Baby
img205.imageshack.us/img205/1884/xdad11fa.jpg



Where'd you find that?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 8:05:31 AM EDT
I herd it is in the latest issue of Guns and ammo but the modrator over at hs talk posted it he own Pistol-gear.com and I thought everyone should see it
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:07:56 PM EDT
I stand corrected. Never has felt so good to be wrong before.

My wife is so going to kill me over this. I'll have to try the sell one, buy one rule. Oh yeah. I'm in deep kimchee now.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:42:04 PM EDT
my nipples just hardened up a little.....

I was disappointed when they came out with the .45 gap.

I might have to splurge a little next year.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 4:05:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
I stand corrected. Never has felt so good to be wrong before.

My wife is so going to kill me over this. I'll have to try the sell one, buy one rule. Oh yeah. I'm in deep kimchee now.



You're going to have company in that cabbage stew!!
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 6:12:56 AM EDT
whats the ETA on this?
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 7:44:50 AM EDT
February at the shot show it is supposed to be official introduced.
But release sometime after that but I herd in the first quarter
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 9:15:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RT_Performance:
February at the shot show it is supposed to be official introduced.
But release sometime after that but I herd in the first quarter



Should give me enough time to save up :)
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 10:21:10 AM EDT
http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-45acp.shtml
Link Posted: 12/16/2005 11:33:27 AM EDT
Here is the pricing to ship first of the year
4” black and green $559 retail

Bi-tone $595 retail

5” black and green $595 retail

Bi-tone $626 retail

Link Posted: 12/16/2005 12:58:51 PM EDT
Sweet - new toy on the List

Any word on a Compact model
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 9:05:43 AM EDT
a sub compact would be sweet, then I would have to buy 2
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 11:59:14 AM EDT
Check Springfield's webiste for more info- pretty cool video as far as those things go. A compact would definitely be uber-cool.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 12:11:55 PM EDT
I've already informed the wife of the new XD .45acp. She didn't say no, so it looks like I'll be getting one in 06! Boy, I have a wonderful wife!
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 10:36:50 AM EDT
oh man i thought it was a rumor when i was reading this until i saw the website for it i just can't wait for it they'll have to make a sub-compact. i wonder if theres going to be alot of changes to the frame internally ?finally a true 45acp as a back-up
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 11:55:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RT_Performance:
Here is the pricing to ship first of the year
4” black and green $559 retail

Bi-tone $595 retail

5” black and green $595 retail

Bi-tone $626 retail




Are these going to be available starting 1/1/2006? That would be AWESOME
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 2:27:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By XD_Fan:
I thought this was old news. There will NOT be a .45ACP model. As for .45GAP, its been out in the Tactical model for a bit. I got to FF one a couple of weeks ago. Its listed on the SA site as being available in the service model now.

Service Model Page

It would be very cool to see it in a single stack .45ACP however. And its seem like it would be trivial to do. But with the results the .45GAP is showing I'm kinda like SA. What's the point? You can reload the .45GAP with same dies, frames stays a reasonable size and you get more capacity. I thought the .45GAP would be a flash in the pan but its looking more and more like a viable round for the long term. Too many 1911's and others in .45ACP for it to ever die though.

www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/gap/4in/XD9504.jpg



Time to eat some crow. the ACP is here thank God and now i can buy a real .45 in an XD platform.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 3:38:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Va_Punisher:
a sub compact would be sweet, then I would have to buy 2



Damn the luck dude. Feel your pain.

wganz

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