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Posted: 4/16/2017 2:22:31 PM EDT
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Case heads should say
W-W Super 357 Magnum Box may say Western with a large red "X" and the word "super" centered in the "X". It is just 357 mag ammo. Just as today, some loads are hotter than others. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 2:23:29 PM EDT
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IDK what you have, but using a ruger was better than a Taurus.
Good move not shooting more. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 2:25:17 PM EDT
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They were possibly handloads, and someone used the lee powder scoop, heaping scoop that is.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:16:07 PM EDT
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Post photos. Show the case heads and the loaded cartridges.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:13:17 PM EDT
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I found some spent regular 357 cases. The lengthy was the same .well the supers was .014 longer. They had the crimp style knurled case. It was a mixed box of 357 ammo. Had some 38 +p , ww super 357 magnum and standard looking 357 WC . Then supers had a pop to them. I'm computer dumb. . Never could figure out how to post pics. I have honestly tried and it's been a failure. ?? thanks for the reply s. Wardawg
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:21:58 PM EDT
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I hear ya WarDog.
You can get away with some risks with a solid pistol like that, but I wouldn't take any more chances if it were me... and I spent the 80's and early 90's blasting revolver loads that would clear the indoor range out. I was loading for silhouette and kept an eye on my pressure with strain gages. Operating blind is not a good thing to do with your face and hands, or even risk a good pistol. I would either disassemble or ignore that ammo unless you have a way to figure out exactly what it is. Have a Happy Easter |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:36:43 PM EDT
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Case heads should say W-W Super 357 Magnum Box may say Western with a large red "X" and the word "super" centered in the "X". It is just 357 mag ammo. Just as today, some loads are hotter than others. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:11:42 PM EDT
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I found some spent regular 357 cases. The lengthy was the same .well the supers was .014 longer. They had the crimp style knurled case. It was a mixed box of 357 ammo. Had some 38 +p , ww super 357 magnum and standard looking 357 WC . Then supers had a pop to them. I'm computer dumb. . Never could figure out how to post pics. I have honestly tried and it's been a failure. ?? thanks for the reply s. Wardawg I don't think there is a .357 Super magnum, although some guys try to stuff some extra powder in a standard.357 Like he said above, some W-W cases were marked super in a marketing ploy. Adding, you are not going to shoot anymore are you? And you just reminded me to dump some old reloads from an unknown loader that I have sitting in the ammo dump. No way I'll shoot them anyway. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:33:33 PM EDT
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Case heads should say W-W Super 357 Magnum Box may say Western with a large red "X" and the word "super" centered in the "X". It is just 357 mag ammo. Just as today, some loads are hotter than others. 
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Posted: 4/16/2017 9:41:08 PM EDT
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The case's are plated chrome looking . It was lead bullets/ WC with a copper color wash over them .It was just a thin color. Some had worn off . The crimping looked good. It was factory as far as I can tell. Yeah it's probably factory hot 357. But I realize you never know. Thanks for yalls reply . Wardawg.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 9:57:45 PM EDT
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What weight is the bullet? I'm guessing you got ahold of some full power Winchester - Western Super X loads. Probably 125gr hollow points. These are full power with plenty of oomph.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:03:43 PM EDT
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I don't think there is a .357 Super magnum |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:37:23 PM EDT
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What weight is the bullet? I'm guessing you got ahold of some full power Winchester - Western Super X loads. Probably 125gr hollow points. These are full power with plenty of oomph. 
I bet it would be fun in a j frame. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:40:37 PM EDT
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I have several boxes of the old Winchester "Metal Piercing" 357 mag rounds!
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Posted: 4/17/2017 12:43:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .014 long smells like reloads, on cases that were already reloaded hot.
I don't think there is a .357 Super magnum, although some guys try to stuff some extra powder in a standard.357 Like he said above, some W-W cases were marked super in a marketing ploy. Adding, you are not going to shoot anymore are you? And you just reminded me to dump some old reloads from an unknown loader that I have sitting in the ammo dump. No way I'll shoot them anyway. 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 6:20:03 AM EDT
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I would be glad to text a Picture of the round to anyone that would like to see it . Just IM me a number to send it to. But with yalls info given, I believe its a standard .357 that has extra pop.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:53:38 AM EDT
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It is possible they were handholds.
However one thing that no one touched on yet is that older ammo was loaded hot. This was before the days of lawyers, and safety warnings all over everything. When you went to the store to buy a box of .357 Magnum, you got .357 Magnum, not 38 spl +P in a .357 case (like today). I would be willing to bet you got some of the 'real' stuff, which caught you by surprise. I had the chance to witness this myself, a gunshop owner who I was friends with showed up at the range one day and I had my .357 out. I was shooting some Federal C357B, which are noted as HOT 125gr self defense loads. He asked to shoot, and when he did, kind of laughed. He pulled out a box of the same C357B, but obviously much, much older, and told me to try them. The difference was night and day. .38 Spl back in the day was about what .357 Magnum is today, and that doesn't take into account any of the older boutique manufacturers like super-vel who really pushed the envelope. Old ammo was hot ammo, and it worked just fine without blowing up too many guns.
ETA: W-W Super was just the headstamp for Western, they added Super to lots of different kinds of brass. Since you mentioned it was a gold bullet, I am guessing it's a Lubaloy, which would mean it's factory loaded. Something like this:  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:58:15 AM EDT
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It is possible they were handholds. However one thing that no one touched on yet is that older ammo was loaded hot. This was before the days of lawyers, and safety warnings all over everything. When you went to the store to buy a box of .357 Magnum, you got .357 Magnum, not 38 spy +P in a .357 case (like today). I would be willing to bet you got some of the 'real' stuff, which caught you by surprise. I had the chance to witness this myself, a gunshop owner who I was friends with showed up at the range one day and I had my .357 out. I was shooting some Federal C357B, which are noted as HOT 125gr self defense loads. He asked to shoot, and when he did, kind of laughed. He pulled out a box of the same C357B, but obviously much, much older, and told me to try them. The difference was night and day. .38 Spl back in the day was about what .357 Magnum is today, and that doesn't take into account any of the older boutique manufacturers like super-vel who really pushed the envelope. Old ammo was hot ammo, and it worked just fine without blowing up too many guns. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:13:00 AM EDT
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When the Smith N frame was the only home for the 357 loads were very hot. 158 at 1515 if memory serves! Then came K and later J frames and the light bullet trend and loads got light.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 2:57:30 PM EDT
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The ammo looks exactly like the ammo in the pic. I will say it is the same stuff. Your correct. I've been shooting 38 's plinking ammo and 357 had been cheap target loads. Wardawg.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 4:17:30 PM EDT
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That's real 357 magnum
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Posted: 4/17/2017 4:22:42 PM EDT
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That part in wardogs first post about the cases sticking is what would bug me . Only reason for even hot factory loads to stick would be a really dirty cylinder.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 5:39:46 PM EDT
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That part in wardogs first post about the cases sticking is what would bug me . Only reason for even hot factory loads to stick would be a really dirty cylinder. Shoot 38 spl then 357 and cases will stick. Run a 40 cal brush through the cylinders to prevent it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 5:44:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:18:40 PM EDT
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Why is it that most responses on this page are ignoring the correct answer to this question providing the ammo was not reloaded? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Case heads should say W-W Super 357 Magnum Box may say Western with a large red "X" and the word "super" centered in the "X". It is just 357 mag ammo. Just as today, some loads are hotter than others. Winchester had the Super-X and X Double X Trademarked designation on their upscale line. Case was marked WIN-Super then caliber/gauge. Damn! If you can't remember back to the 70s at least then start remembering!!!! Young snots.... .
EDIT: This is not in reference to the OP who asked the question. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:21:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:13:51 PM EDT
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It is possible they were handholds. However one thing that no one touched on yet is that older ammo was loaded hot. This was before the days of lawyers, and safety warnings all over everything. When you went to the store to buy a box of .357 Magnum, you got .357 Magnum, not 38 spl +P in a .357 case (like today). I would be willing to bet you got some of the 'real' stuff, which caught you by surprise. I had the chance to witness this myself, a gunshop owner who I was friends with showed up at the range one day and I had my .357 out. I was shooting some Federal C357B, which are noted as HOT 125gr self defense loads. He asked to shoot, and when he did, kind of laughed. He pulled out a box of the same C357B, but obviously much, much older, and told me to try them. The difference was night and day. .38 Spl back in the day was about what .357 Magnum is today, and that doesn't take into account any of the older boutique manufacturers like super-vel who really pushed the envelope. Old ammo was hot ammo, and it worked just fine without blowing up too many guns.
ETA: W-W Super was just the headstamp for Western, they added Super to lots of different kinds of brass. Since you mentioned it was a gold bullet, I am guessing it's a Lubaloy, which would mean it's factory loaded. Something like this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/240418/acf10a5-189284.JPG |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 4:43:54 AM EDT
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Olin who owns Winchester Western uses several head stamps. Ones I know of are
W-W WWESTERN WINCHESTER W-W SUPER WCC XXXX WITH THS X'S FOR THE YEAR MADE I think this one has been replaced by the one below WMA17 Winchester Military Ammunition made this year.( I have only seen this in 9MM and only 17 but they have used it in prior years) . The above head stamps will have 357 MAGNUM or 357 MAG I have seen both with all the head stamps. I have seen all of these in brass and nickel except WCC I have only seen in brass The last two the general public may not see much unless buying surplus ammo. I see it because I shoot at their range in East Alton and Nilo Farms. They package over runs in standard boxes for range use |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:30:05 AM EDT
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I suggest you clean the cylinder and then save those fine older loads to use for self defense carry loads!....<><....:)
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