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Posted: 2/1/2017 2:28:57 PM EDT
Hi everyone,
I just picked up my sp5k yesterday and I would like to buy some goodies for it.
I just went through the compliance requirements for my Benellli M4 so I am up to speed with the process but not on theHK.
It is a pistol. I want to add the arm brace and a vertical front grip. I would like to get the hk branded grip but will get the USA made one if needed. I do not want to go through the exercise to sbr. So... can I put the vertical grip on it and can I go HK?
Thanks for any help!!
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 2:34:07 PM EDT
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Hi everyone,
I just picked up my sp5k yesterday and I would like to buy some goodies for it.
I just went through the compliance requirements for my Benellli M4 so I am up to speed with the process but not on theHK.
It is a pistol. I want to add the arm brace and a vertical front grip. I would like to get the hk branded grip but will get the USA made one if needed. I do not want to go through the exercise to sbr. So... can I put the vertical grip on it and can I go HK?
Thanks for any help!!
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This is the brace everyone is using now from SB Tactical. It's awesome. No-go on the vertical foregrip as that would make it a AOW. Stupid I know.

ETA: if you SBR then you can add the vertical grip. More stupid stuff.

Link Posted: 2/1/2017 3:02:36 PM EDT
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Thanks Dana,
That is the brace that I would like but they seem to be sold out everywhere.
No dice even on the USA vertical grip?
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 3:08:29 PM EDT
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Thanks Dana,
That is the brace that I would like but they seem to be sold out everywhere.
No dice even on the USA vertical grip?
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They are in stock at HKparts.net. Unfortunately due to our stupid laws you can't legally have a vertical grip on a pistol changes it to a AOW.

Link:
SP5K Brace
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 3:32:38 PM EDT
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Unfortunately due to our stupid laws you can't legally have a vertical grip on a pistol changes it to a AOW.
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Actually, if he can get the OAL to 26" or more, he can mount the vertical grip and it becomes a "firearm" instead of an AOW.
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 4:07:02 PM EDT
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Actually, if he can get the OAL to 26" or more, he can mount the vertical grip and it becomes a "firearm" instead of an AOW.
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The SP5K is 13.9" and is classified as a pistol. How does he get it to 26" without putting a stock on it and making it an SBR?
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 4:18:01 PM EDT
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The SP5K is 13.9" and is classified as a pistol. How does he get it to 26" without putting a stock on it and making it an SBR?
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How long is the arm brace? How long can it be made?
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 5:18:14 PM EDT
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Probably cant extend it unless I added a welded on fake can. But is still registered as a pistol.
thanks for all the info!
Ill leave the vertical grip off. The stock grip is ok.
Maybe one day I will SBR it and go from there.
Link Posted: 2/1/2017 6:50:57 PM EDT
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Here's a great explanation of the silly laws around pistols and braces/stocks/VFG's. Stole it from Team Member Pool_Shark from another thread:


"As long as it is over 26" OAL, if it is under and you wanted a VFG you would need to register it as a AOW (same as if you wanted to put one on a glock)

How the ATF classifies a "pistol" vs a "firearm"
Pistol/Handgun: under 26" overall; no stock (foam pad/cane pad/SIG brace are not stocks), no vertical foregrip
Firearm : over 26" overall and you can install a VFG (no stock rule still applies), no limit on barrel length within the technical limitations of the platform's gas system/dwell time requirements

ETA another reason I won't go the SBR route again is in MN we are not allowed to carry a loaded rifle/shotgun in the vehicle... with the brace classifying it as a "pistol" I can throw it in my passenger seat if I want to.

In order to run the VFG you would need to AOW, pinweld or make a brace spacer on the K as it is only around 24" oal"
Link Posted: 2/2/2017 1:56:30 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info! I ordered the above referenced brace, 2 more mags and a mag coupler from hkparts this afternoon.
I didn't order the vertical grip.
Does anyone know.. when I install the brace, will it still fit in the factory storage case?
Just curious, thanks!
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 5:53:11 PM EDT
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This is the brace everyone is using now from SB Tactical. It's awesome. No-go on the vertical foregrip as that would make it a AOW. Stupid I know.

ETA: if you SBR then you can add the vertical grip. More stupid stuff.
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Did you have to make any modifications to the upper receiver in order to attach the lower?

I love my SP5k, and while it certainly is not a deal breaker, I would prefer to have a lower similar to the one that is pictured on yours.
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