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Posted: 2/16/2006 2:50:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 4:24:41 PM EDT by voodochild]
Since it was such a nice day today and since I didnt get picked to be a juror for a civil trial (yup had Jury Duty today) I decided to go to the local outdoor range. Man let em tell you that WWB 40 cal sucks ass. Multiple feed problems that just really pissed me off. Switched over to my GA Arms ammo and no problems at all. Buddy of mine was shhoting his Olympic 45 ACP and had the same problems with WWB. Switched to Black Hills and no problems at all. Moral of the story dont Buy WWB ammo.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 2:51:18 PM EDT
what kind of gun?
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:41:35 PM EDT
229R DAK 2 month's old.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:28:44 PM EDT
I shoot WWB almost exclusively. Not one problem so far.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 7:43:32 PM EDT
I use it in five or six different guns with no problems.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:05:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/16/2006 10:05:35 PM EDT by Sniper_Wolfe]
9mm out of a Glock 17, no problems to report here.

ETA: About 800 rounds so far.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:36:24 PM EDT
Hundreds of rounds here too. Never a single problem.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:11:35 AM EDT
I have shot WWB in 45, 40 and 9mm.. thousands of rounds through Sigs.. not one problem..
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:32:05 AM EDT
Off hand I say it is the gun.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 6:43:59 AM EDT
Had two 12 o'clock misfeeds on a S&W 1911PD with WWB .45 ACP FMJ. It was in the first 200 rounds through the pistol so break-in could have been a factor, but the two other loads I used that day (Federal and Hornady JHP) worked just fine.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 12:17:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
Off hand I say it is the gun.



Horseshit, Sigs eat anything. I'm in the category of shooting an assload of WWB with no issues, but my first time at the range with my P229, I had a .357 round that was out of spec and wouldn't chamber. I'd save the box, get the lot number, and have winchester send me some replacements if I were you.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 10:13:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drew5337:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
Off hand I say it is the gun.



Horseshit, Sigs eat anything.



Not this one apparently. My P226 however, does eat everything I throw at it.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:02:05 AM EDT
Never had a problem with 9mm or .45 out of Glocks or a 1911.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 3:11:01 AM EDT
your gun is junk
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:37:36 AM EDT
Bullshit!!! Nothing wrong with my gun.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:40:01 AM EDT
I just came back from a Local Glock shoot. I was using 40 S&W WWB as well as everyone else that was shooting .40 .... no misfires or jams on the line ... mine shot flawlessly as well ...
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:44:46 AM EDT
Could have be anything but I have never had a single issue with WWB in the last 2 years in 6 different pistols and thousands of rounds including 3 different 2 day classes firing 1000+ rounds each class.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:54:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By XM17SBullpup:
Never had a problem with 9mm or .45 out of Glocks or a 1911.



+1
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:09:37 AM EDT
Shoot WWB all the time.

9mm - CZ-75B

No problem.

Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:24:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By voodochild:
Bullshit!!! Nothing wrong with my gun.


I'm just giving you shit, I should have added the
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:28:21 AM EDT
My 228 eats it like a fat kid eats ho ho's.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 6:36:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fst96ss:

Originally Posted By drew5337:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:
Off hand I say it is the gun.



Horseshit, Sigs eat anything.



Not this one apparently.



+1
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 7:01:17 AM EDT


I use WWB in 45, 9mm, and even 40.

Never had a problem with it.

Link Posted: 2/21/2006 10:20:14 PM EDT
I've never had a problem.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:06:04 AM EDT
1K WWB THRU A STI EDGE. 2 rounds failure to feed.

Figures I have a egde that chokes on 40's loadded long (1.2 oal).
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 12:22:39 PM EDT
I have never had a problem with it though I have seen a lot of people at the range have problems with extractions. Judging from the recoil, the 180gr loads may be a little underpowered. Once your gun has broken in and springs softened up it will probably cycle fine.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 12:34:48 PM EDT
I use WWB in 9mm, .40cal S&W, .45APC and .223/5.56.

Never had a problem with any of it.

____________________________



Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:57:10 PM EDT
Not one problem !!!
But I have glocks ...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 2:18:30 PM EDT
I only shoot WWB. I have never had a problem in 9mm, .40, and .45
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 3:14:16 PM EDT
Never had a problem w/ 9mm and .45!
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 6:04:39 PM EDT
Different bullet ogives perform differently in different guns. My Witness will 12 oclock wwb .40 but loves anything with a truncated cone. You may want to try UMC for practice and silver tips and gold dots for your load out.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:46:10 AM EDT
I have a Sig 229R in .40 and it loves the WWB and shoots it accurately.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:10:54 PM EDT
I use it in 9mm & .45 and have never had a problem.
Link Posted: 2/27/2006 12:20:15 PM EDT
I ran about 450 rounds of it through my USP9 the other day without any problems
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 2:22:35 PM EDT
Ok I am mistaken WWB doesnt blow magazines from CDNN do. I bought 4 extra mags for my Sig and so far 2 have gone bad.
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 5:30:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By voodochild:
Ok I am mistaken WWB doesnt blow magazines from CDNN do. I bought 4 extra mags for my Sig and so far 2 have gone bad.




Send the mags back to CDNN for replacement or a refund. They are usually great people to deal with.
Link Posted: 3/10/2006 11:50:58 AM EDT

Moral of the story dont Buy WWB ammo


I must have bad morals then
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 7:03:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ShakyJake:

Moral of the story dont Buy WWB ammo


I must have bad morals then



I quess I'm a bad person also, I have shot thousands of rounds of 9mm WWB without a single ammo related failure.

I will never understand why some people will say that a paticular product is garbage because they have had a problem with it. Just because you had problems doesn't mean every one else will. Did you ever think that maybe you just got a bad batch?
Link Posted: 3/12/2006 7:31:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2006 7:33:31 PM EDT by Bear_B]
I have shot thousands upon thousands of rounds of WWB for years and from a variety of weapons in a variety of both rifle and pistol (auto and revolver) calibers including .223, .45, .40, 9mm, and .38, and I have never had any such problems.

Maybe your weapon is just picky...
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:11:14 AM EDT
Can beat the price of WWB, just picked up 200rds of 45acp for $40.
I've had a couple rounds of WWB 9mm's with bad primers. Other than that I've found it to be great.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:17:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 10:23:17 AM EDT by highwayman]
If I were you, I'd switch to Blazer Brass. It's cheaper, more accurate, and has given me no problems through 3 different firearms in 3 different calibers. I dislike WWB because it's dirtier and less accurate. I've never had any problems with WWB, it's just not as good as Blazer Brass is for me. That, plus my Sig shoots it almost as accurately as my handloads. MJD
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:30:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By highwayman:
If I were you, I'd switch to Blazer Brass. It's cheaper, more accurate, and has given me no problems through 3 different firearms in 3 different calibers. I dislike WWB because it's dirtier and less accurate. I've never had any problems with WWB, it's just not as good as Blazer Brass is for me. That, plus my Sig shoots it almost as accurately as my handloads. MJD



most ranges will not let you shoot blazer because they use the empty shells to reload, I shoot wwb, blazer, and umc and have been for many many years, I disagree with you when you say it's more accurate but it is slightly, just slightly clearner
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:52:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 10:53:14 AM EDT by NewbieDave]

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:

Originally Posted By highwayman:
If I were you, I'd switch to Blazer Brass... MJD



most ranges will not let you shoot blazer because they use the empty shells to reload, I shoot wwb, blazer, and umc and have been for many many years, I disagree with you when you say it's more accurate but it is slightly, just slightly clearner



He say Blazer Brass... these are the CCI regular brass cased ammo, not the gray cased ones, those are just called Blazer. While Blazer are cheap when ordered in bulk... so far, I have yet to beat Wally World's value pack on WWB. IMHO, they shoot the same for target ammo...


~nb
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 1:59:54 PM EDT
I shoot WWB and only WWB out of my main three pistols (9mm, .40, .45). Haven't had a problem yet. Maybe you got a bad batch?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 3:32:10 AM EDT
I've shot about 500+ rd of WWB brass 115gr FMJ 9mm Luger through my Glock 17 w/o any problems. It's not match grade ammo but it works fine and goes bang each time I squeeze the trigger. It's great 10c/rd ammo but Walmarts and Meijers are starting to jack up the price to about 15c/rd or higher.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 3:44:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 3:45:23 AM EDT by aaronrb204]

Originally Posted By WMHM4:
I will never understand why some people will say that a paticular product is garbage because they have had a problem with it. Just because you had problems doesn't mean every one else will. Did you ever think that maybe you just got a bad batch?



i don't buy wolf ammo because it is crap-dirty, poor quality, etc.

eta: i am not saying that others have problems with it too but that it is junk and should not be purchased or shot.


Originally Posted By NewbieDave:
He say Blazer Brass... these are the CCI regular brass cased ammo, not the gray cased ones, those are just called Blazer. While Blazer are cheap when ordered in bulk... so far, I have yet to beat Wally World's value pack on WWB. IMHO, they shoot the same for target ammo...



1000 rounds of blazer brass was delivered to my door for less than $10 more than the same amount of wwb would have cost me at wally world after tax is figured in. and to me it is worth it. having said that i have yet to figure out how people always take shipping into account but neglect to figure tax when talking about buying at the store.

anyways i like blazer brass better because it comes in the little tray and that makes it easier to keep track of how many rounds i have loaded into a mag without paying attention to the witness holes. regular blazer is aluminum cased and berdan primed which is why it can't be reloaded and ranges that don't let you shoot it are stupid. i would rather have the shooting business than lose any money off that customer but hey thats just me.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 6:08:47 AM EDT
Wolf 9mm is more accurate than Blazer or WWB:
Box of Truth
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 6:12:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By voodochild:
Bullshit!!! Nothing wrong with my gun.



I don't know why someone would call your gun a junk, especially when the gun may not be junk at all. Some guns like to digest certain rounds and dislike others.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 4:39:23 AM EDT
To those of you who dont ead the whole thing. I recanted and said it was not WWB that was the problem it was the mags I got from CDNN. Which by the way they refuse to replace. Last time I deal with them. I bout 4 extra mags and so far about 3 have gone bad. CAlled htem and they said I woul dhave to deal with SIG. Which is crap since I bought them through CDNN I doubt SIG is going to replace jack.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 7:01:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By voodochild:
To those of you who dont ead the whole thing. I recanted and said it was not WWB that was the problem it was the mags I got from CDNN. Which by the way they refuse to replace. Last time I deal with them. I bout 4 extra mags and so far about 3 have gone bad. CAlled htem and they said I woul dhave to deal with SIG. Which is crap since I bought them through CDNN I doubt SIG is going to replace jack.



Well isn't that a kick in the pants. Were these new mags or were they LE trade-in (used) mags? If they were new factory mags you probably have a valid complaint with SIG, otherwise, call your credit card company and file a dispute. If you didn't pay with credit card, then you're kinda out of luck. Next time get Mec-Gar mags. They're every bit as good as factory mags. MJD
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 7:22:32 AM EDT
SIG should be able to handle the problem.
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