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Posted: 1/29/2006 3:21:35 PM EDT
Which is the better of the 2..
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:33:54 PM EDT
Flip a coin.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:39:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/29/2006 3:46:04 PM EDT by danpass]

Originally Posted By SHIVAN:
Flip a coin.



+1

It would come down to availability.


also:
IBWATOC (InBeforeWhatAboutTheOtherCalibers)
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:40:52 PM EDT
My thinking... Thanks for confirming.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:49:09 PM EDT
I love both, but the clear winner is the 10mm but I would hate to get hit by either one


If your looking for a CCW weapon, the 45ACP will allow you to practic more if you dont reload. I love reloading 10mm, my cost per hundred is 10.00 for practic ammo.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:42:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By V-Rod:
I love both, but the clear winner is the 10mm but I would hate to get hit by either one


If your looking for a CCW weapon, the 45ACP will allow you to practic more if you dont reload. I love reloading 10mm, my cost per hundred is 10.00 for practic ammo.



I cant CCW where I live.. But I do want to reload.. 10mm is kinda like Heroin... 1 shot and you are hooked...
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:49:31 PM EDT
If you're looking at "one shot - one comparision" idea:
10mm can push a 200 grain at 1,200 fps.
45 ACP can push it at 1,050 fps.
10mm has more power everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

Now if you're going to take into account long term usage, the 45 takes the cake, ammo cost and availability are better, longer list of firarms chambered for it, yadda yadda yadda.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:22:00 PM EDT
I prefer the increased penetration and magazine capacity of the 10mm.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:31:17 PM EDT
I carry the 10mm
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 4:40:31 AM EDT
I wouldn't feel undergunned with either round. Personally, I carry the .45 acp. Quality ammo and reloading components for it are everywhere. Also, I haven't found the 10mm of my dreams yet.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 4:46:20 AM EDT
either is good, just make sure you center mass.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 7:43:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bushman_269:
Also, I haven't found the 10mm of my dreams yet.



is this close



Link Posted: 1/30/2006 8:37:59 AM EDT
Ballistically- the 10mm is just better. Big bullet traveling at higher velocities.
Link Posted: 1/30/2006 11:30:58 PM EDT
if you plan to hunt with the handgun/use as a sidearm-- then 10mm. if you don't hunt and it's primarily for home defense/target---then .45. if both hunting/home defense then 10mm. if you reload the 10mm it's even better since you can shoot all you want for the fraction of factory ammo.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:31:28 AM EDT
10mm is much more powerful and very flat shooting. When I had a Smith 1006, I could bust milk jugs at 100 yards with no hold over. Fun as hell.
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 10:47:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2006 10:48:42 AM EDT by MTUSA]

Originally Posted By V-Rod:

Originally Posted By Bushman_269:
Also, I haven't found the 10mm of my dreams yet.



is this close

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/V-Rod/8abefc9e.jpg





Damn! Just when I thought I purged those images from my mind,
you go postin' that DW CBOB again


ETA: What's a brutha' got to do to buy that off you
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 2:26:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MTUSA:



ETA: What's a brutha' got to do to buy that off you



Money
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 3:20:59 AM EDT
Is that a newer one after the CZ buyout, or before? I'm very interested in one, but I don't know much about them.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 5:49:28 AM EDT
Defense against what?
For in the woods defense the 10mm with Corbon (180gr BCSP at 1320fps) or Double Tap (200gr XTP at 1250fps) ammo.
For home defense 45.
Also consider the hearing damage if you need to use the 10mm inside a home..
If you use a weak load 10mm, you might as well go with a 40..
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 11:40:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Is that a newer one after the CZ buyout, or before? I'm very interested in one, but I don't know much about them.



Before
its ALL Dan Wesson (external extract) Dave Severns is a Master DW 1911 smith. Here a list on what he did.

Severns Custom Enhanced

Cylinder & Slide Inc, Tactical II hammer
STI S-7 Sear
Briley disconnector
Wilson blue hammer strut pin
EB hammer strut
EB SS grip saftey
EB tactical SS thumb safety
EB mag release
EB Slide stop
EGW o/s firing pin stop
Davidson Horned Lizard G-10 grips
Trigger job set@ 3.75
Reliability tune
Frame undercut
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 3:36:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARer:
Defense against what?
For in the woods defense the 10mm with Corbon (180gr BCSP at 1320fps) or Double Tap (200gr XTP at 1250fps) ammo.
For home defense 45.
Also consider the hearing damage if you need to use the 10mm inside a home..
If you use a weak load 10mm, you might as well go with a 40..



Kinda thinkin the .45 or .40 would be just as loud.... Deaf is better than dead... If I was ever faced with a self / home defense situation ( Hope never) Im not gonna hear the gun go off anyway.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 4:06:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gmtmaster:

Originally Posted By ARer:
Defense against what?
For in the woods defense the 10mm with Corbon (180gr BCSP at 1320fps) or Double Tap (200gr XTP at 1250fps) ammo.
For home defense 45.
Also consider the hearing damage if you need to use the 10mm inside a home..
If you use a weak load 10mm, you might as well go with a 40..



Kinda thinkin the .45 or .40 would be just as loud.... Deaf is better than dead... If I was ever faced with a self / home defense situation ( Hope never) Im not gonna hear the gun go off anyway.


Yeah, they're all pretty loud.. but those Corbon and Double Tap loads sound more like a magum...and thats outside! Of course we need to protect ourselfs, but if we don't "need" the power and noise of a "Full Load" 10mm indoors, at least we can also save some of our hearing.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:48:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2006 8:57:45 AM EDT by ChickenKiller]
I had a 10mm i1991-1993 and traded it for a .40cal. The reason why I did this is .40cals were being loaded to perform as well as factory 10mm loads, and 10mm ammo cost more back then.

Plus I never could find any selection of 10mm.

I loved handloads through the 10mm, but had to depend on a friend to keep me stocked up......Just an absolute different pistol with handloads......... The 10mm should be to the .40S&W what the .22mag is to the .22LR, but sadly to say it wasn't with factory loads, may be today, but not then.

With this being said, you can find .45 ammo anywhere, in all kinds of flavors, with reasonable prices. I like the avaibility of ammo. .22, 9mm, .45, .223, .308 type stuff you know......

Don't get me wrong though the 10mm is a TEN MOTHA MOTHA and they are awsome! Mine was a stainless SW 1006, looking back on it, Should of Kept it and bought a .40 later.

All this Being Said....... beg her to let you buy both
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 8:50:22 AM EDT
get doubletap ammo and you'll see what a 10mm is supposed to be
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 1:07:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
get doubletap ammo and you'll see what a 10mm is supposed to be



Yep.... Knumb hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 6:26:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2006 6:33:10 PM EDT by plinkereye]
Go with a .357sig. It has more power than both of those types(.45 cal and 10 mm). Looks may be decieving bacause the bullet is only 125 gr. but it is powerful and deadly and less recoil.
10mm 180gr fmj energy ft. lbs = 424 of kenitic energy better than .45
45 acp 230gr fmj e.ft.lbs = 404 of KE
357 sig 125gr fmj e.ft.lbs =506 of KE winner better than the others
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 5:34:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/3/2006 5:48:03 AM EDT by ARer]

Originally Posted By plinkereye:
Go with a .357sig. It has more power than both of those types(.45 cal and 10 mm). Looks may be decieving bacause the bullet is only 125 gr. but it is powerful and deadly and less recoil.
10mm 180gr fmj energy ft. lbs = 424 of kenitic energy better than .45
45 acp 230gr fmj e.ft.lbs = 404 of KE
357 sig 125gr fmj e.ft.lbs =506 of KE winner better than the others



From the Double Tap site:
10mm:
Ballistics : 135gr. @ 1600fps/ 767 ft./lbs. - Glock 20, Nosler Jacketed Hollow Point.
Ballistics : 180gr. @ 1350fps/ 728 ft/lbs- Glock 20
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=122

357 Sig:
Bullet : 125gr. Gold Dot JHP
Ballistics : 1450fps / 584 ft. lbs. 4"bbl

Convinced?
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 5:45:49 AM EDT
10mm Winchester Silvertips even have more energy than .357 sig. And a bigger bullet.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 7:05:50 AM EDT
For me, I cannot shoot the 10mm worth a crap for some reason. No problem with 45 or 357sig. Go with what you can shoot better with!
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 11:16:33 AM EDT
10mm. It is way, way, more powerful.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 9:47:00 PM EDT
You'll get no arguement that the 45 ACP has a huge edge in ammunition selection. But selection for the 10mm is not as bad as it once was. A few competitors to Double Tap...
10 MM AUTO CORBON HUNTER 180 GR. BCSP 1320 FPS/696FTLBS
10mm Automatic 175 gr. Super-X® Silvertip® Hollow Point 1290 FPS/649 FTLBS
Buffalo Bore 180 gr. Speer Uni-Core - J.H.P. (1,350fps/M.E. 728 ft.lbs.).
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