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Posted: 1/6/2006 12:43:42 PM EDT
I'm expecting my first 1911 sometime next week, so during my wait I decided to do some ammo shopping. I asked my local gun shop guy (Larry) if he had any bulk .45 ammo laying around. And as usual he had some strange ammo from a far off land that I never heard of before. If you read this forum frequently, you may remember me asking around about some Guatamalan surplus .223 ammo I picked up for a steal. By the way that stuff is freaking awsome and very realiable. Anyways, Larry showed me some MFS .45cal, FMJ+P 230gr ammo he has for sale. From what I can gather off the net, it's made (or was) in Hungary and imported by Intrac Arms International Inc. out of Knoxville Tennessee. So I will ask the million dollar question. Has anyone used this stuff or know anything about it?

Heres the stats that came with the box

For FMJ 230gr +p Load

Muzzle 10yds 25yds 50yds
Velocity (fps) 940 919 889 846
Energy (ft.lbs) 451 431 403 365
Trajectory (in.) 0 -0.2 -1.3 -5.3

One more question. I've never shot +P loads before, are they safe compare to SAAMI loads? My new gun is a SA 1911 PX9109L. Thanks
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:16:16 PM EDT
i don't have the numbers in front of me but +p is a saami spec. the pressure is usually less than 15% higher than regular ammo. if you are not sure if +p is safe to shoot in your new pistol i suggest you refer to your manual and if it is not noted in there then you can call sa to check.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 4:32:09 AM EDT
I ordered 600 rounds from ammoman.com of this but it is not +P. I fired about 100 rounds through my H&K USP Compact with no problems. It is good ammo. Your 1911 probably is not recommmended to fire +P. I would not buy it for range ammo. There is really no reason to have 230gr and +P.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:38:46 PM EDT
What's the point of using +P ball ammo just for shooting at the range? Hollowpoints for self defense sure, but why subject yourself and your gun to the extra wear? Sure, you need to shoot your carry ammo to know how it shoots, both in point of impact, and the recoil, but I don't see a reason to shoot it constantly. And the recoil isn't so much of a difference that you need to train on it all the time. It's not like shooting 38's at the range and carrying .357 magnum rounds.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:54:23 PM EDT
I have used in in .45acp and .40s&w.

AIM Surplus had a special last year on it with free shipping.

I haven't used much of it yet (maybe 200rnds of each caliber), but it's all worked fine so far.

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