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You're cherry picking results.
Both had adequate penatration and expansion. Yes the non +p expanded 0.06" more. The +p penatrated .9" more.
I can't tell the difference in recoil and when it comes to bullet performance around things like windshields and car doors more often then not the faster round will have less deflection on the off side and better performance.
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This is really busy, and you will most likely have to download it and zoom in to see the data. this is factory data and it shows both HST 230g underpenetrate after going through glass. If glass is a MAIN concern you are better off without HST. Best through glass is Gold Dot, but it under penetrates in bare gel. The +p
Direct link if easier to cut and paste to get the image is http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad262/gusandson/Firearms/Ballistic%20Data/AllBallisticDataFactory2_zpsf3764bd3.png
Doc Roberts had one test where +p out performed standard, and one where it underperformed.
I believe all these tests were full sized guns (Doc R used 1911's, I think the factory test was full sized) and Lucky Gunner used short barrels.
I'll admit, when I did the research and made those spreadsheets a few years back I recall thinking +p was no better. It does look like it performs better, but not a whole lot.
I chose 230g HST since it is the best performer in bare gel. I could go either way on standard/+p but chose +p for less recoil/flash with only a slight loss in wound volume. I think my chances of shooting through glass/car doors is much lower than my chance of not doing the same. I live in Florida so I choose bare gel test results over heavy clothing test results. You can call that "cherry picking" the data, I'll call it carefully reviewing the data and choosing the best performing round for my circumstances.