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Posted: 7/26/2017 12:02:24 PM EDT
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I like it. I just wish they used a vertec slide with the dovetail front sight.
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Posted: 7/26/2017 8:15:58 PM EDT
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This is a big meh. With the exception of the grips there is nothing special here. The D hammer spring and steel trigger already are sold as a package. As is the G lever. The rear sight is the same as the M9A1.
I would have liked to have seen some front and back strap checkering. A beveled magwell and a dovetailed front sight. I guess it is good they are making these but I want to see more A3s, A1s and A1 compacts. |
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Posted: 7/26/2017 9:25:44 PM EDT
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No a Langdon edition... Wonderful.
I just want a standard goddamn Brigadier 92 with a railed frame for less than $800. Is that so much to ask for? |
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Posted: 7/26/2017 10:16:55 PM EDT
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No a Langdon edition... Wonderful.
I just want a standard goddamn Brigadier 92 with a railed frame for less than $800. Is that so much to ask for? |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 6:44:26 AM EDT
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Meh
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Posted: 7/27/2017 6:54:54 AM EDT
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It's pretty cool when a guy will put his name on a 700$ gun instead of a $2000 gun but there better be his name on it. Otherwise no buy.
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Posted: 7/27/2017 9:48:45 AM EDT
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I like it. I just wish they used a vertec slide with the dovetail front sight. Gun companies have bureaucracies in them and from what I gather Beretta is no different. Getting them to make a configuration other than whatever the guys in the office think is a good idea is difficult and always has been. The Elite series guns were Langdon's idea and it was the devil's own time getting them produced in even limited numbers. My buddy Todd worked for Beretta and managed to get a couple of special guns built, but he also had a dickens of a time getting it done. Bill Wilson managed to get the Brig Tacs built because he showed up with a boat load of cash to make that special order happen. I don't know the intimate details on this particular setup, but I'm sure there are reasons why the config looks as it does. I have a feeling price point is one of them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 10:00:23 AM EDT
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I have one reserved. It's my first gun purchase in over 2 years. Langdon has said on another forum that these are meant to be lightly upgraded 92 models with the features most people want to add for a decent price. The only models that Beretta USA is really producing at the moment are the M9A3, the Brig Tac, and military contract M9s. So Beretta is using what is cheaper to produce to make a lightly upgraded pistol.
I'm really looking forward to the real Langdon 92. I made a pretty detailed and lengthy post about it on here, around June of last year. He said that pistol (M9A1 frame/Vertec slide hybrid, he's called it Langdon Elite a few times.) has been pushed back due to the backlog of A3s, and Brig Tacs, along with still filling an M9 order for the military. So because that's pushed back he convinced Beretta to release this pistol for those of us (me included) who have been nagging the piss out of him. I'm really looking forward to that pistol, I honestly want 2 of them. I think the earliest we will see them is Q2 next year, but even later wouldn't surprise me. Beretta seems to have a lot of irons in the fire. Heck, even just the plans they have cooking with Langdon is a lot to work with: LTT Px4 full size, with another special robar release, LTT92 Elite, LTT1301... plus who knows what else. -Cory |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 10:02:26 AM EDT
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On Beretta Forum Langdon said this:
Hey, guys, I know I don't post here much. But I do come over and read what you guys are saying. You are being heard.
This gun is not supposed to be "the gun". It is just another M9 with some cool features at a good price point. We could argue all the details of what it should be or what it should cost till the cows come home. And if we are being honest that is what some of you like to do, right?? Fair enough, there is some fun in that as well. Keep in mind that getting gun companies to listen is not easy, but we are making progress with Beretta. I am working to develop a track record of success on projects like these. The start really was the Wilson Brigadier Tactical, which I helped with back when all that started. That got Beretta's attention and we have seen a lot of the guns we all love come back in short runs. Vertecs, G-SDs, Brigadiers, etc. Those guns were all but gone until the Wilson Combat project. The Compact Carry has also been successful and I am hoping this M9 project is successful as well. The more successful they are the more Beretta listens and the more likely they are to make the changes we all want. Great things are coming and most of what you guys want is in the future plans if I get my way. Maybe even some things you thought would never happen. But we need to be successful in these small projects as well. The more successful they are, the faster the other good stuff comes. -Cory |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 12:49:23 PM EDT
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I haven't had the chance to sit down with EL lately and discuss details of what he's been up to, but I can vouch for that statement. Dude is trying to make some stuff happen and there are people at Beretta who are trying to make it happen with him.
Gun companies are bureaucracies, risk averse ones at that. Moving them takes time and convincing. A couple of other things worthy of note: 1. Their factory just moved from anti-gun Maryland to Tennessee. This is a long, arduous process (anyone who has ever moved a factory and all the machines involved can attest) and it's taking them a while to get back to pre-move levels of production capacity. 2. For Beretta, handguns are not really a major profit center. They make shitloads more money on shotguns and apparel than they do on handguns, so getting investment into handguns is difficult. Especially after attempts like the M9A3 didn't win the .mil contract. |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 2:20:50 PM EDT
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I reserved one because I want a beretta made in Tennessee for the collection, but it should come with 17rd mags too instead of 15. But I am glad it's coming with 3 of them for the price.
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Posted: 7/29/2017 2:24:50 PM EDT
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For me, the only non-dovetailed front sight models I have are compacts. Everything else is a Brigadier slide. I'd love to see the Vertec slide take over though, as I might actually pick one up them.
For that matter, make the Compacts with dovetailed fronts, too! 
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Posted: 7/29/2017 3:08:01 PM EDT
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I reserved one because I want a beretta made in Tennessee for the collection, but it should come with 17rd mags too instead of 15. But I am glad it's coming with 3 of them for the price. I think they have a lot of good value added to a standard M9. On a dream 92 of course I want the vertec slide for the dovetail, but that's coming eventually with the LTT Elite pistol. -Cory |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:22:01 AM EDT
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Just pre ordered the Langdon M9
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Posted: 9/8/2017 9:58:42 PM EDT
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For a long time Beretta has been able to get away with being complacent in the marketplace because they had massive govt contracts to keep things running. Those days are over. If Beretta wan't to continue to have a strong showing in the market and be competitive with companies like CZ and Sig that still produce classic alloy framed pistols they are going to need to fully evolve. None of this sticking your toe in the water nonsense either. They have a little momentum right now but it will not last if they do not evolve. We are on the back half of 2017, there is no reason to not have a dovetailed front sight, easily convertible G levers and a railed frame. In addition to that front and back strap checkering as well as magwell beveling should be standard. While I like the Vertec frame, honestly I can live without it, but the standard "Beretta 92", needs to have the features mentioned above to be standard without exception. Otherwise why not buy a P series Sig or a CZ? The A3 showed us all that Beretta has the ability to give us that easily. Now they need to really work to make the A3 the new standard for Beretta.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:56:29 PM EDT
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For a long time Beretta has been able to get away with being complacent in the marketplace because they had massive govt contracts to keep things running. Those days are over. If Beretta wan't to continue to have a strong showing in the market and be competitive with companies like CZ and Sig that still produce classic alloy framed pistols they are going to need to fully evolve. None of this sticking your toe in the water nonsense either. They have a little momentum right now but it will not last if they do not evolve. We are on the back half of 2017, there is no reason to not have a dovetailed front sight, easily convertible G levers and a railed frame. In addition to that front and back strap checkering as well as magwell beveling should be standard. While I like the Vertec frame, honestly I can live without it, but the standard "Beretta 92", needs to have the features mentioned above to be standard without exception. Otherwise why not buy a P series Sig or a CZ? The A3 showed us all that Beretta has the ability to give us that easily. Now they need to really work to make the A3 the new standard for Beretta. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:33:34 AM EDT
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They gave people that and then some in 2006/07 with the 90-two it had a modular grip way back then before most guns but It was kind of a flop. I still think the 90-two is the best 92 variant still to date, they just look better with a 92a1 slide |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 7:22:45 PM EDT
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This is a big meh. With the exception of the grips there is nothing special here. The D hammer spring and steel trigger already are sold as a package. As is the G lever. The rear sight is the same as the M9A1. I would have liked to have seen some front and back strap checkering. A beveled magwell and a dovetailed front sight. I guess it is good they are making these but I want to see more A3s, A1s and A1 compacts. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 10:33:58 AM EDT
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Does anyone know if the Langdon M9 will have any special markings? Also what will the production numbers be?
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Posted: 9/14/2017 10:58:37 AM EDT
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Just pre ordered the Langdon M9 |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:00:43 AM EDT
[#21]
I have two M9's set up like this already but if I was just starting out I'd buy one .
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Posted: 9/14/2017 11:00:52 AM EDT
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Do they want a deposit ? |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 3:38:38 PM EDT
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Does Buds charge your card right away? Or only when it's ready to ship?
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Posted: 10/29/2017 3:57:36 PM EDT
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Does Buds charge your card right away? Or only when it's ready to ship? |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 4:41:40 PM EDT
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According to people in the know over on Beretta Forum it won’t be this year .
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Posted: 10/31/2017 12:09:04 PM EDT
[#26]
Looks good - good price too
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Posted: 10/31/2017 8:54:03 PM EDT
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According to people in the know over on Beretta Forum it won’t be this year . Speaking of which, i don't think the rep who told me that knew what they were talking about at all. Ernest Langdon stated on pistol-forum that a run of LE guns could be the hold up. An LE order shouldnt be that long of a hold up. -Cory |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 12:14:29 AM EDT
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For a long time Beretta has been able to get away with being complacent in the marketplace because they had massive govt contracts to keep things running. Those days are over. If Beretta wan't to continue to have a strong showing in the market and be competitive with companies like CZ and Sig that still produce classic alloy framed pistols they are going to need to fully evolve. None of this sticking your toe in the water nonsense either. They have a little momentum right now but it will not last if they do not evolve. We are on the back half of 2017, there is no reason to not have a dovetailed front sight, easily convertible G levers and a railed frame. In addition to that front and back strap checkering as well as magwell beveling should be standard. While I like the Vertec frame, honestly I can live without it, but the standard "Beretta 92", needs to have the features mentioned above to be standard without exception. Otherwise why not buy a P series Sig or a CZ? The A3 showed us all that Beretta has the ability to give us that easily. Now they need to really work to make the A3 the new standard for Beretta. If they have other models that are readily available with all of those features, why do the same thing over again, while shrinking the lineup? The standard 92FS may not be tacticool, but it's still a valid option, even with all of the competition. Much like a standard CZ75B. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 5:31:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Mine shipped today. A month late isn't too bad.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 9:53:42 PM EDT
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Just picked it up minutes ago from my ffl. The orange dot looks great, the m9 straight dust cover and non radiused back strap look great and work well with the thin grips. I have a few sets of vz grips but the texture on these is unique and should work nicely. Fit and finish is excellent. New g lever is cool.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 10:57:35 PM EDT
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Does it say made in TN anywhere on it?
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:54:18 PM EDT
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Does it say made in TN anywhere on it? 
I'm glad that they're giving the middle finger to a liberal state, but the Accokeek rollmark is so familiar, it's sad to see it go. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 11:07:17 AM EDT
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Does it say made in TN anywhere on it? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 10:21:33 PM EDT
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No but the paper included in the pics - bottom left corner is the Tennessee state flag and it says "made in gallatin tn" underneath it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 11:15:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Kinda want, not gonna run at them with my money but it looks nice.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 11:30:35 PM EDT
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I saw that. Pretty neat. I wonder if any models have made in TN on the actual gun? |
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Posted: 11/17/2017 1:00:03 AM EDT
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My M9A3 has "Gallatin, TN - Made in USA" on the slide. |
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Posted: 11/17/2017 1:22:54 AM EDT
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My M9A3 has "Gallatin, TN - Made in USA" on the slide. |
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Posted: 12/8/2017 6:57:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Sorta gotta have
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:41:21 AM EDT
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What's the update on these? Those that have them how do you like them ?
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:21:32 PM EDT
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What's the update on these? Those that have them how do you like them ? |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Does the Langdon edition have steel trigger , recoil rod and decocker/safety?
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