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[#2]
Nice family pics! Looking forward to hearing your impressions on shooting the APX.
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[#4]
Other impressions of the apx so far.
The swapping of grip frames is the future, I see great aftermarket potential is new slides and frames for these guns, caliber swaps etc. Nothing is stopping the aftermarket right now from designing a compact grip and shorter mags to go with it, you don't want finger grooves? Sand them off, go to far just buy a new grip. Or just buy one already worked over by your favorite vender no ffl needed. Love glocks? Maybe someone will build a whole new grip frame that mimics a glocks grip. Maybe some guy will design parts for it to take glock mags. The sky is the limit with new pistols like the apx and p320. Beretta already lists a threaded barrel on their website, 21rd mags are ready to go too, even with the proprietary dovetail sights beretta already has night sights and adjustable sights for sale. It seems beretta is wanting this pistol to work and are going to stand behind it and offer up stuff owners want. The owners manual shows the thumb safety version and a long slide version too. Hopefully soon a compact. Can't wait to get to the range |
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[#5]
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Other impressions of the apx so far. The swapping of grip frames is the future, I see great aftermarket potential is new slides and frames for these guns, caliber swaps etc. Nothing is stopping the aftermarket right now from designing a compact grip and shorter mags to go with it, you don't want finger grooves? Sand them off, go to far just buy a new grip. Or just buy one already worked over by your favorite vender no ffl needed. Love glocks? Maybe someone will build a whole new grip frame that mimics a glocks grip. Maybe some guy will design parts for it to take glock mags. The sky is the limit with new pistols like the apx and p320. Beretta already lists a threaded barrel on their website, 21rd mags are ready to go too, even with the proprietary dovetail sights beretta already has night sights and adjustable sights for sale. It seems beretta is wanting this pistol to work and are going to stand behind it and offer up stuff owners want. The owners manual shows the thumb safety version and a long slide version too. Hopefully soon a compact. Can't wait to get to the range View Quote |
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I believe but not sure,that the thumb safety can be added on with the different grip frame. it replaces the rear takedown pin in the pictures in the manual. Here a few pics of the thumb safety takedown procedure and specific parts. and the long slide parts. http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466755.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466758.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466760.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466759.jpg View Quote |
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[#11]
Today beretta released the threaded barrels so I have one of those coming. I don't own a suppressor yet but I think berettas look good with the barrel sticking past the slide anyways.
I also ordered a competition striker spring for it direct from Italy. So that will lighten up the trigger pull a little bit. |
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[#12]
Definitely interested in how the competition striker spring works out.
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[#13]
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Definitely interested in how the competition striker spring works out. View Quote |
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[#18]
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My only complaint is the mags are super hard to load, almost impossible without the supplied mag loader. The first couple rounds get screwy when loading and sometimes kind of jam up but have no issues when shooting them. View Quote My main complaint with the APX, and the ARX as well, is that everything is stiff. Taking it apart is a pain the first time, until you work it in some. Magazines also a pain, will probably break in some. Trigger real stiff, breaks in fine. ARX same thing, bottom mag release real stiff until I worked it in, safety, trigger, every control on the gun needs to be worked 100 times before it's broken in. I think I would have liked them better if I'd gotten the ARX in FDE and the APX frame to match, but oh well, black is the new brown! |
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[#19]
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I really like the way the 21rd magazine blends into the frame, nice touch to it. My main complaint with the APX, and the ARX as well, is that everything is stiff. Taking it apart is a pain the first time, until you work it in some. Magazines also a pain, will probably break in some. Trigger real stiff, breaks in fine. ARX same thing, bottom mag release real stiff until I worked it in, safety, trigger, every control on the gun needs to be worked 100 times before it's broken in. I think I would have liked them better if I'd gotten the ARX in FDE and the APX frame to match, but oh well, black is the new brown! View Quote |
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[#20]
Botach had it listed in FDE for $1150 I think, so I ordered it but it was out of stock. When I called up they'd gotten the regular ones in for $899, so I got one of them.
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[#21]
I'm excited to try mine, bought it "used" but unfired from consignment of LGS. Somehow the prior owner got conned into it being a Sig at a pawn shop, I dunno but tag on box from pawnshop is dated less than two weeks ago.
Only came with 2 mags, don't if that is legit or if one got lost or more likely the pawn shop snagged it and put it out for sale at $40 or something. Anyway, just me or is the locking tabs for the case on the wrong lid? I swapped mine around. Seems the tabs should lift up with the lid instead of staying on the side that lays on the table. |
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[#22]
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I'm excited to try mine, bought it "used" but unfired from consignment of LGS. Somehow the prior owner got conned into it being a Sig at a pawn shop, I dunno but tag on box from pawnshop is dated less than two weeks ago. Only came with 2 mags, don't if that is legit or if one got lost or more likely the pawn shop snagged it and put it out for sale at $40 or something. Anyway, just me or is the locking tabs for the case on the wrong lid? I swapped mine around. Seems the tabs should lift up with the lid instead of staying on the side that lays on the table. View Quote The case lock tabs didn't bother me though |
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[#23]
So I got the green competition striker spring finally, installed that Saturday morning and went to the range with 3 17rd mags and 3 21rd mags.
So this is the first range trip with the grey grip frame installed, threaded barrel, 21rd mags, and green striker spring. Everything was cleaned and oiled before the range trip. Everything was going fine through the first 200 rounds. 1 stove pipe failure but I was shooting single hand weak side so that was most likely why that happened. Last 100 rounds of fiochi 115grn ammo first 2 17rd mags go just fine, 3rd up is the 21rd couple shots go fine then trigger is dead. Rack the slide, fresh round pops out of the chamber no primer dimple. Shoot the next round, dead trigger again, just tap the slide and it goes last 1/8" into battery and fires fine when trigger is pulled. It continued to malfunction this way almost every round of the 21rd mag. Next up back to a 17rd mag and no issues. Last 2 mags were 21rd and both had the same failures. So I'm thinking it's an issue with the 21rd mags mostly. A member on the beretta forum is having issues with 21rd mags not locking the slide back, some testing with my slide off the 21rd mags don't have enough spring pressure to keep the slide lock up reliably. I did also order a Galloway precision apx stainless striker spring to try out vs the beretta green spring. And I ordered a new recoil spring assemble from Galloway. Stock is 18lb I ordered a 20lb to try if I keep having return to battery issues, it's also a flat wire spring not that it should matter. Stock apx trigger - 5.75lb Green spring - 5.25lb Galloway - tbd |
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[#24]
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So I got the green competition striker spring finally, installed that Saturday morning and went to the range with 3 17rd mags and 3 21rd mags. So this is the first range trip with the grey grip frame installed, threaded barrel, 21rd mags, and green striker spring. Everything was cleaned and oiled before the range trip. Everything was going fine through the first 200 rounds. 1 stove pipe failure but I was shooting single hand weak side so that was most likely why that happened. Last 100 rounds of fiochi 115grn ammo first 2 17rd mags go just fine, 3rd up is the 21rd couple shots go fine then trigger is dead. Rack the slide, fresh round pops out of the chamber no primer dimple. Shoot the next round, dead trigger again, just tap the slide and it goes last 1/8" into battery and fires fine when trigger is pulled. It continued to malfunction this way almost every round of the 21rd mag. Next up back to a 17rd mag and no issues. Last 2 mags were 21rd and both had the same failures. So I'm thinking it's an issue with the 21rd mags mostly. A member on the beretta forum is having issues with 21rd mags not locking the slide back, some testing with my slide off the 21rd mags don't have enough spring pressure to keep the slide lock up reliably. I did also order a Galloway precision apx stainless striker spring to try out vs the beretta green spring. And I ordered a new recoil spring assemble from Galloway. Stock is 18lb I ordered a 20lb to try if I keep having return to battery issues, it's also a flat wire spring not that it should matter. Stock apx trigger - 5.75lb Green spring - 5.25lb Galloway - tbd View Quote |
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[#25]
Update 9/25
Took apx 2 to the range again, didn't touch it since last time out. Same threaded barrel, grey grip frame, green competition striker, stock recoil spring. didn't clean or oil pistol. 350rds mostly using the 21rd mags and not a single failure. No issues at all returning to battery. I didn't try out the Galloway 20lb recoil spring since I had no failures. Total round count through apx 2 is right around 950rds I did install the Galloway striker spring after the range, immediately removed it. The spring is lighter than the factory black or comp green strikers, which gives it a noticeably lighter pull, but when it gets to the break point it takes excessive effort to break and gives off a super weird springy vibration through the whole pistol. The wheeler trigger pull guage reads up to 8lbs and it was way higher than that. I think the factory strikers are plastic to "give" a little and the stainless Galloway doesn't and causes the heavy trigger pull. I measured the weight to compress the strikers Stock - 4lb Green - 3.5lb Galloway - 2.5lb Trigger pull weight Apx 1 stock - 4.75lb Apx 2 stock - 5.75lb Apx 3 stock - 5.25lb Apx 2 green - 5.25lb Apx 3 green - 4.75lb Apx 2 Galloway - +8lb weird vibration Apx 3 Galloway - +8lb weird vibration |
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[#26]
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I believe but not sure,that the thumb safety can be added on with the different grip frame. it replaces the rear takedown pin in the pictures in the manual. Here a few pics of the thumb safety takedown procedure and specific parts. and the long slide parts. http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466755.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466758.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466760.jpg http://pic100.picturetrail.com:80/VOL351/7575719/24318977/413466759.jpg View Quote |
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[#27]
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I contacted Beretta asking them about the frame safety and they said they have no plans to pursue this as they didn't win the Army's handgun program. I bought the APX because of the optional frame safety so I'm pretty bummed about this. View Quote |
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[#28]
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That sucks, I wish they would release it. The Modularity is pointless without the options to change things up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I contacted Beretta asking them about the frame safety and they said they have no plans to pursue this as they didn't win the Army's handgun program. I bought the APX because of the optional frame safety so I'm pretty bummed about this. Hello Bryan: Thank you for contacting Beretta Firearms Technical Support. Unfortunately, the manuals as originally written had taken into account various features that would have been available on the Army submission version of the APX. However, some of these features did not make it to full completion as the APX was not selected for the MHS program. At this time, there are no thumb safety or adjustable sight options as the manual may mention, however, they are still being considered by our product design team as a possible future upgrade. There is no time frame as to when this might occur. Thank you for your inquiry. Best regards, Beretta Customer Support |
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[#30]
Hate finger grooves? No problem. I will be getting a no finger grip as soon as they are in stock.
http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-grip-no-fingers-with-3-backstraps-for-apx/ |
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