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New ones sell for ~$550, the last 92 I picked up was a police special with 3 mags for $539 about a year ago. No need to elaborate why YOU would "never, ever" buy one new, clearly you aren't a big fan of the platform, rather stay focused on the price point. These are reliable, accurate, iconic, and proven service pistols. Go ahead? View Quote |
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Five stainless and 41 blued left in stock. View Quote |
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I'm a fan of the platform, just not spending stupid money for things I don't need to. I own 9 Beretta 92's in total, you're right, I'm not that big a fan, but I'm betting that's more than 98% of the "fans" of the platform own.....including you... View Quote |
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Please guys, this is not GD, so please try to stay on Beretta points.
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Never liked that pistol... they just didn't have the durability of some others. We had a rental program at my range, and we split barrels, cracked locking blocks and slides.
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All of you Beretta guys help me out...
Years ago, I heard about a friend of a friend that took a 92D, and opened it up and installed a "FS" parts like a sear and hammer, thus making it DA/SA, but without the safety / decocker. Anyone who has a D model, what is in there where the sear goes on a FS model? Is there a sear, just a different one, is there a hole, some sort of a spacer? If not, are there holes in the frame where a sear pin can and sear can be installed? Basically, is this possible... to take a slick-side D model and make it act like a DA/SA without a decocker. It would be no more dangerous to carry than any other DA auto. Obviously, thumbing the hammer down on a live round after having been in a life threatening situation and having to use your gun would be less than ideal. I just want to know if it is possible. |
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All of you Beretta guys help me out... Years ago, I heard about a friend of a friend that took a 92D, and opened it up and installed a "FS" parts like a sear and hammer, thus making it DA/SA, but without the safety / decocker. Anyone who has a D model, what is in there where the sear goes on a FS model? Is there a sear, just a different one, is there a hole, some sort of a spacer? If not, are there holes in the frame where a sear pin can and sear can be installed? Basically, is this possible... to take a slick-side D model and make it act like a DA/SA without a decocker. It would be no more dangerous to carry than any other DA auto. Obviously, thumbing the hammer down on a live round after having been in a life threatening situation and having to use your gun would be less than ideal. I just want to know if it is possible. View Quote |
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Never liked that pistol... they just didn't have the durability of some others. We had a rental program at my range, and we split barrels, cracked locking blocks and slides. Of course, ours were all blued. Don't know about the stainless ones. View Quote The Beretta 92 is no different then any other gun if you do not maintain it, it will eventually fail. A probperly maintained Beretta is a fine combat pistol. Extremely reliable, very durable and accurate. The durability can be further improved by a few aftermarket parts. Wilson Combat offers a fluted guide rod with a flat wire recoil spring and shock buff. Using all three parts of this system should virtually eliminate the need to replace the recoil spring and experience cracked locking blocks. The trigger spring durrablity has also been addressed with the Wolff trigger conversion unit. This redesigned spring eliminates broken trigger springs. |
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Your experience runs counter to that at Battlefield Vegas. His Berettas get worked hard and yet they seem to hold up just fine. Maybe it has something to do with them actually maintaining their pistols. The locking blocks were redesigned in the early 2000s to increase durrablity, with regular recoil spring changes the Beretta 92 should be just as reliable as any other gun on the market. The fact that you had cracked slides tells me you guys never bothered to change recoil springs or maintain your pistols. While cracked locking blocks can happen a cracked slide only happens when the recoil spring is worn out and the slide is getting battered by the locking block. The split barrels are a new one for me. While the locking blocks catch so much flack for cracking the real weak point in the design is the trigger spring IMO. I have seen those break in as few as 500rnds. You saying the Beretta 92 isn't as durable as others when you didn't bother to maintain it is like never changing the oil in your vehicle and then complaining your brand of vehicle isn't reliable. The Beretta 92 is no different then any other gun if you do not maintain it, it will eventually fail. A probperly maintained Beretta is a fine combat pistol. Extremely reliable, very durable and accurate. The durability can be further improved by a few aftermarket parts. Wilson Combat offers a fluted guide rod with a flat wire recoil spring and shock buff. Using all three parts of this system should virtually eliminate the need to replace the recoil spring and experience cracked locking blocks. The trigger spring durrablity has also been addressed with the Wolff trigger conversion unit. This redesigned spring eliminates broken trigger springs. View Quote We also broke a few Sigs. The Glocks were the only guns that held up to the abusive conditions and kept on shooting. |
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That's good to know. This was back in the 1990's, and you're correct; they were very seldom cleaned. I'm glad to know they updated them. We also broke a few Sigs. The Glocks were the only guns that held up to the abusive conditions and kept on shooting. View Quote |
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Never liked that pistol... they just didn't have the durability of some others. We had a rental program at my range, and we split barrels, cracked locking blocks and slides. Of course, ours were all blued. Don't know about the stainless ones. View Quote Sure, locking blocks break after 15-20k RDS if you don't replace the recoil spring ever 5k I've broken a locking block once, but I've broken alot more M16/AR bolts |
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Your experience runs counter to that at Battlefield Vegas. His Berettas get worked hard and yet they seem to hold up just fine. Maybe it has something to do with them actually maintaining their pistols. The locking blocks were redesigned in the early 2000s to increase durrablity, with regular recoil spring changes the Beretta 92 should be just as reliable as any other gun on the market. The fact that you had cracked slides tells me you guys never bothered to change recoil springs or maintain your pistols. While cracked locking blocks can happen a cracked slide only happens when the recoil spring is worn out and the slide is getting battered by the locking block. The split barrels are a new one for me. While the locking blocks catch so much flack for cracking the real weak point in the design is the trigger spring IMO. I have seen those break in as few as 500rnds. You saying the Beretta 92 isn't as durable as others when you didn't bother to maintain it is like never changing the oil in your vehicle and then complaining your brand of vehicle isn't reliable. The Beretta 92 is no different then any other gun if you do not maintain it, it will eventually fail. A probperly maintained Beretta is a fine combat pistol. Extremely reliable, very durable and accurate. The durability can be further improved by a few aftermarket parts. Wilson Combat offers a fluted guide rod with a flat wire recoil spring and shock buff. Using all three parts of this system should virtually eliminate the need to replace the recoil spring and experience cracked locking blocks. The trigger spring durrablity has also been addressed with the Wolff trigger conversion unit. This redesigned spring eliminates broken trigger springs. View Quote You combine the new locking block with proper spring changes and a Wolf trigger spring, a D Spring hammer spring and the design remains competitive. It's still a DA/SA design which the pretty clear trend is away from, but it's one of the best of it's kind...... So much better than the Third Generation Smiths etc...it's not even funny. At reasonable used prices of $350 or so, it's a good choice. |
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Back on the AIM Surplus topic, snagged me one of the Inox 92's, now to wait for it to show up. I really hope it has the stainless controls.
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Darn! I misses the sale on the stainless ones... Always have wanted an Inox. Don't have the cash to blow on one now anyway.
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Mine shipped today. God willing and the creek don't rise, I might have them by Saturday for the posting of pictures and impressions here.
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Hoping these will start appearing on the usual resellers websites soon. View Quote I wouldn't be surprised if it's next year before they arrive and make it out to the network. |
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The new twins came in today... Left side: Discoloration on one of the decockers, grips have that "thrown down the driveway" character, lots of dirt in nooks and crannies http://i.imgur.com/2VIisUL.jpg?2 Right side: Very little frame wear, a little bit on the trigger bar http://i.imgur.com/ZzXeZAB.jpg?1 Closeup of the dirt: http://i.imgur.com/WOKQtvL.jpg?1 Most of the wear in on the butt and front of the grip. Also, very dirty. I've been meaning to get an ultrasonic cleaner, so this might provide the impetus: http://i.imgur.com/uN59Nkf.jpg?1 Overall I'm pleased with these. I was really disappointed when the INOX went over to black controls/accents, so this is exactly what I wanted. http://i.imgur.com/eYdvqu7.jpg?1 View Quote |
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Somewhat unrelated but I picked up a Indiana State Police 92FS G for $321 this week. All metal. No plastic.
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Somewhat unrelated but I picked up a Indiana State Police 92FS G for $321 this week. All metal. No plastic. View Quote |
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I'm glad your happy with them but after seeing those I am glad I passed. I find it curious that you have all stainless controls with the exception of the trigger bar. That should be stainless as well. View Quote I play poker with a wholesaler from SW Ohio (not AIM actually,) and HE said it was a killer deal, and he's a person who literally flies around the world bidding on this stuff. |
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Not trying to hi jack but is this a deal...?
Beretta 92fs American at my local dealer. Old customer brought it in. Bought new during the Clinton ban years. Unusual. Blue gun with stainless barrel and controls. Box just says two tone? Rare? Worth 475? It is like new in the box. Thanks |
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Not trying to hi jack but is this a deal...? Beretta 92fs American at my local dealer. Old customer brought it in. Bought new during the Clinton ban years. Unusual. Blue gun with stainless barrel and controls. Box just says two tone? Rare? Worth 475? It is like new in the box. Thanks View Quote |
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Texas is odd. When I moved back a couple years ago I noticed that, for guns, everything was about $100 more than I was used to paying in Arizona.
Here's a quick search for the state. $525 - $575 seems to be the going rate for vanilla Berettas with one magazine. Pawn shops are equally retarded. |
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Texas is odd. When I moved back a couple years ago I noticed that, for guns, everything was about $100 more than I was used to paying in Arizona. Here's a quick search for the state. $525 - $575 seems to be the going rate for vanilla Berettas with one magazine. Pawn shops are equally retarded. View Quote ETA, some pawn shops I visit have prices that are and they won't budge. I just make a mental note of the place and won't return. However sometimes I find a place that will wheel and deal especially if I am spending cash. So I make sure to keep plenty of cash on hand for those places. |
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I have seen two tone guns. Sometimes it is people swapping parts from an Inox to a blued 92. Either way $475 for a like new 92 with the box is a good deal. I would probably pull the trigger on something like that. View Quote |
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FYI.... while we are talking deals and price. Here in Indiana I listed my afore mentioned beat up 92g for $450 and sold same day.
So I will be basically $321 into my 2 tone. For me ..... this has always been part of the fun. |
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Yep, no deals like that here in Iowa. $400 for a 92 and $450 for am inox is great around here.
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Yep, no deals like that here in Iowa. $400 for a 92 and $450 for am inox is great around here. View Quote As for my 92FS Inox it has some dings here and there, but overall in good condition. A lot of wear on the backstrap of the grip, reading around I hear you can re-anodize the frame. Or should I just get the frame cerakoted the same color as the original anodizing? We got a guy around here that does good work for reasonable prices. |
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Picked up some of the mags from this Beretta dump from AIM that just happen to work in the 92S I purchased last month.
Never understood the allure of the 92 before, but now that I own one I find it to be an excellent pistol. |
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Picked up some of the mags from this Beretta dump from AIM that just happen to work in the 92S I purchased last month. Never understood the allure of the 92 before, but now that I own one I find it to be an excellent pistol. View Quote |
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I'm in the western half of the State and there sure as shit isn't anything like these deals around here either. Sometimes you can find stuff in Omaha, but then you have to transfer and ship to Iowa. As for my 92FS Inox it has some dings here and there, but overall in good condition. A lot of wear on the backstrap of the grip, reading around I hear you can re-anodize the frame. Or should I just get the frame cerakoted the same color as the original anodizing? We got a guy around here that does good work for reasonable prices. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I'm in the western half of the State and there sure as shit isn't anything like these deals around here either. Sometimes you can find stuff in Omaha, but then you have to transfer and ship to Iowa. As for my 92FS Inox it has some dings here and there, but overall in good condition. A lot of wear on the backstrap of the grip, reading around I hear you can re-anodize the frame. Or should I just get the frame cerakoted the same color as the original anodizing? We got a guy around here that does good work for reasonable prices. Then, the "I can get a new XYZ for $ABC all day everyday," rapidly becomes "You have to dedicated giant swathes of your life to living inside gun stores and maybe one day you will get 50 dollars off what some other guy paid." Speak of the devil, below. Quoted:
I have a good job, I don't need to buy worn out guns to flip. Quoted:I shop around a lot. I'm about to head out now and cruise some gun stores and pawn shops. |
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I work with a lot of Officers who used to work for St. Louis City. Those guns are junk apparently. From what I've been told about them, I would stay away. But that's just what I would do, be a man and make your own decisions.
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The internet is full of people telling you all the great deals they know about, but VERY light on the revealing of said sources Then, the "I can get a new XYZ for $ABC all day everyday," rapidly becomes "You have to dedicated giant swathes of your life to living inside gun stores and maybe one day you will get 50 dollars off what some other guy paid." Speak of the devil, below. I'm glad you have a great job! I love the implication that I'm poor. Pretty clever! It's odd though, where as your job is so great, I definitely value you time more than you do. I guess I don't see that 50 dollars as too big of a deal to waste my time with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The internet is full of people telling you all the great deals they know about, but VERY light on the revealing of said sources Then, the "I can get a new XYZ for $ABC all day everyday," rapidly becomes "You have to dedicated giant swathes of your life to living inside gun stores and maybe one day you will get 50 dollars off what some other guy paid." Speak of the devil, below. I'm glad you have a great job! I love the implication that I'm poor. Pretty clever! It's odd though, where as your job is so great, I definitely value you time more than you do. I guess I don't see that 50 dollars as too big of a deal to waste my time with. Quoted:
It's good anywhere. Don't buy into the BS. |
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I work with a lot of Officers who used to work for St. Louis City. Those guns are junk apparently. From what I've been told about them, I would stay away. But that's just what I would do, be a man and make your own decisions. View Quote I would also take what those other officers said with a grain of salt. They were carrying Beretta 92's in a time when most officers around the country were carrying some sort of plastic wonder pistol with a rail, higher capacity and provisions for better sights. I have a good friend that is a deputy at a county here that carries the Sig P229 on duty. If you asked him the P229s they have are junk and he can't wait to get something newer/better. He wants them to move to the Glock 21/41. His P229 is far from junk and is completely serviceable. His comments to me sound like that whole the grass is always greener sort of thing. That is my take away when I hear stuff like that anyways. |
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Boys... You're both pretty. lol
I personally like the hunt. If I am looking for something specific, then I find best deal I can on the net and buy it. When I find a deal at a shop... it is just because I lucked into it. Two totally different ideas. Might shop all year at LGS to find a nice and cheap Inox. Or pick up one of these for 250 cheaper than new....? It's 6 to 5 and pick em. |
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