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Posted: 12/30/2019 2:47:35 AM EDT
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As far as the G40, I don't see why this wouldn't work for it? Same factory MOS cut, is it not? The 10mm GLOCK's have the same width slide at the .45acp models. |
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Posted: 12/30/2019 11:19:20 PM EDT
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After reading through all of this I will wait to see what happens with the new plate from FCD in stead of the getting the trijicon kit for the mos plate. Hopefully by spring it will be available.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:18:26 AM EDT
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Picked up one of the WAR mounts for the Glock. Came with a small dent in the side of the RMR plate which didn't seem to interfere with function so mounted and went to the range. Had to adjust RMR from previous dial in on MOS plates which is to be expected. Will continue to use, but seems decent so far, do like that one handed clearance will occur a little further from the glass.
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Posted: 1/2/2020 9:22:54 AM EDT
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I've had my Gen5 G19 MOS & RMR for 13 months & a little over 4000 rounds. I used the stock plate and Trijicon kit/screws, torqued to proper specs and blue loctite and haven't had an issue. However I also haven't changed the battery yet either...its still going strong after 13 months and I've never once shut it off! At this point I'm going to see how long it will go.
I'm happy with this setup and will be buying another this spring. That said, I saw @duffy posts that Forward Controls is in the process of making a plate. I love everything they make and would definitely buy and install one. ETA: It should be noted that I constantly use the RMR to cycle the slide too. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:05:33 AM EDT
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I've had my Gen5 G19 MOS & RMR for 13 months & a little over 4000 rounds. I used the stock plate and Trijicon kit/screws, torqued to proper specs and blue loctite and haven't had an issue. However I also haven't changed the battery yet either...its still going strong after 13 months and I've never once shut it off! At this point I'm going to see how long it will go. I'm happy with this setup and will be buying another this spring. That said, I saw @duffy posts that Forward Controls is in the process of making a plate. I love everything they make and would definitely buy and install one. Two main differences. I take my RMR off after every weekly range session, because I give the 19 a quick wipe down and put it in the ultrasonic, wipe it off, swab the firing pin channel with an alcohol swab and reinstall the RMR. I haven't put blue loctite on my screws, because they are removed and reinstalled weekly. When reinstalled they are lined back up with the witness marks I have on the sight, which were originally torqued to ( I believe 11 in/lb?...Whatever the instructions said) They haven't loosened up on me yet. During last weeks range session, my battery from last January died, as I change all optic batteries on New Years Day. I'm guessing I've had my sight exposed to more light than usual or I just had a bum battery? So far it's been a good set up for me! My only complaint is the finish sure doesn't hold up like previous generation Glocks.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:12:42 AM EDT
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Interesting. I have a pretty similar experience. I got my 19.5 MOS last February. It's my EDC gun and I have closer to 8k through it. Give or take a few hundred. I haven't been keeping track. I just know I shoot around 200 rounds a week through it. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Two main differences. I take my RMR off after every weekly range session, because I give the 19 a quick wipe down and put it in the ultrasonic, wipe it off, swab the firing pin channel with an alcohol swab and reinstall the RMR. I haven't put blue loctite on my screws, because they are removed and reinstalled weekly. When reinstalled they are lined back up with the witness marks I have on the sight, which were originally torqued to ( I believe 11 in/lb?...Whatever the instructions said) They haven't loosened up on me yet. During last weeks range session, my battery from last January died, as I change all optic batteries on New Years Day. I'm guessing I've had my sight exposed to more light than usual or I just had a bum battery? So far it's been a good set up for me! My only complaint is the finish sure doesn't hold up like previous generation Glocks. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/10846/FDE0BA8B-F0A5-4E74-9EF0-E817CFFD174E_jpeg-1217510.JPG It's good to hear yours has been removed/reinstalled a lot. I'm guessing your not a gorilla with the wrench 
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:30:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good data point on the battery. I took a class on Saturday and I asked the instructor if he wanted me to shut my RMR off. We got to chatting and I told him it has been on since Black Friday of November of 2018. It is either in my dresser, range bag or on my hip so it only sees day light when shooting. I do try to keep the brightness turned down but like I said I use the RMR to cycles the slide and that means the brightness does actually get turned up often. It's good to hear yours has been removed/reinstalled a lot. I'm guessing your not a gorilla with the wrench 
Two or three weeks ago I actually got my in/lb driver out to see if the screws threading was worn and changed the torque from my original witness marks from the original installation. It was still right on. I should note, that I hate hex screws. The first thing I did was order these from McMaster Carr and cut them to the proper length. https://www.mcmaster.com/94414a146 https://www.mcmaster.com/94414a148 |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good data point on the battery. I took a class on Saturday and I asked the instructor if he wanted me to shut my RMR off. We got to chatting and I told him it has been on since Black Friday of November of 2018. It is either in my dresser, range bag or on my hip so it only sees day light when shooting. I do try to keep the brightness turned down but like I said I use the RMR to cycles the slide and that means the brightness does actually get turned up often. It's good to hear yours has been removed/reinstalled a lot. I'm guessing your not a gorilla with the wrench I've been using RMRs since 2013. This is the first time I had a battery that didn't last a year. Then again, this year I spent several weeks down in the Keys visiting my son ( he's stationed there). One thing I'll say about the Keys, the sun sure is bright!  Maybe that made a difference? Maybe it was the battery? Who knows?All this RMR talk....I think it's time to go out and put a few down range! |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 1:28:12 PM EDT
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How many in/lbs are you putting on the plate and rmr screws?
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Posted: 1/2/2020 2:54:27 PM EDT
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How many in/lbs are you putting on the plate and rmr screws? |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 3:20:24 PM EDT
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11 in/lb. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 4:56:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, is that for both the factory adapter plate and the rmr itself? I guess take that for what it's worth.
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Posted: 1/2/2020 5:24:34 PM EDT
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You actually made me dig out my Glock manual! For attaching the plate to the slide it relates "hand tighten only". I guess take that for what it's worth. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 9:54:27 PM EDT
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I will update with an ETA as soon as the production ready prototype is finished and tested. We could go to production with what we have now, but rushing to market has never been an option, thus is not our purpose.
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:37:25 PM EDT
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I will update with an ETA as soon as the production ready prototype is finished and tested. We could go to production with what we have now, but rushing to market has never been an option, thus is not our purpose. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 10:52:01 PM EDT
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I will update with an ETA as soon as the production ready prototype is finished and tested. We could go to production with what we have now, but rushing to market has never been an option, thus is not our purpose. |
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Posted: 1/2/2020 11:11:13 PM EDT
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I will update with an ETA as soon as the production ready prototype is finished and tested. We could go to production with what we have now, but rushing to market has never been an option, thus is not our purpose. |
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Posted: 1/3/2020 7:43:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the update. Can't wait to get one. |
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Posted: 1/3/2020 7:05:53 PM EDT
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After reading through all of this I will wait to see what happens with the new plate from FCD in stead of the getting the trijicon kit for the mos plate. Hopefully by spring it will be available. Duffy....boink had to slap myself in the forehead.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 12:35:17 PM EDT
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We'll be completing the revised prototype next week. We'll test the new prototype as well. We're confident it'll be the production candidate. This is our first foray into something that's not AR related, not that we'd ever fudge anything anyway, folks have high expectations for it and we don't think we can sell products because they carry our name, the FCD MOS plate will take as long as it needs to meet and exceed what's expected of us. Our name is a responsibility, not a selling tool.
In the grand scheme of things, the MOS plate is a side project, our v3 bolt catches, ambidextrous safeties and charging handles are far more difficult to dial in, but these are coming in the spring too 
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Posted: 1/5/2020 1:37:34 PM EDT
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I’m ready for you to take my money.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 3:05:43 PM EDT
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Count me in as excited to buy one of your plates too.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 5:14:27 PM EDT
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Well, that a wrap - 3500 rounds fired with the FCD V1 prototype. Finished with Federal 124gr.+P, and 147gr. HST. Both did well, apparently the Gen 5s really like the 147s. I've seen what I need to see, sent this RMR off for servicing, and anxiously await the V2. Will pop some black rear/fiber front irons on and do final eval in conjunction with the plate and optic.
The last range was cold, and couldn't really feel my fingers much. Didn't help that this Gen 5's trigger just took a crap and is all kinds of gritty with hitches now. Probably would have shot a 25 bull/SF/Freestyle score of 100-8 or 9X if it was smoother. Well done, @Duffy This thing is going to be a winner.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 10:25:44 PM EDT
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Second (most likely final) prototypes are heading yours
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Posted: 1/11/2020 10:59:51 AM EDT
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/...Gen 5's trigger just took a crap and is all kinds of gritty with hitches now.../ S/F |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 4:32:01 PM EDT
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Well, that a wrap - 3500 rounds fired with the FCD V1 prototype. Finished with Federal 124gr.+P, and 147gr. HST. Both did well, apparently the Gen 5s really like the 147s. I've seen what I need to see, sent this RMR off for servicing, and anxiously await the V2. Will pop some black rear/fiber front irons on and do final eval in conjunction with the plate and optic. The last range was cold, and couldn't really feel my fingers much. Didn't help that this Gen 5's trigger just took a crap and is all kinds of gritty with hitches now. Probably would have shot a 25 bull/SF/Freestyle score of 100-8 or 9X if it was smoother. Well done, @Duffy This thing is going to be a winner.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/317179/IMG_7752_jpg-1228896.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/317179/IMG_7754_jpg-1228898.JPG S/F |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 5:12:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a photo of the the plate without the rmr mounted? |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 5:52:11 PM EDT
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Look back a few pages. it looks great.
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Posted: 1/13/2020 12:11:07 PM EDT
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More pics to follow pending conclusion of v2 prototype testing.
Among other things, we fixed the aesthetics, always the last thing for us to work on. The front and back corners are now conforming to those on the RMR. This isn't a functional issue, but a matter of attention to detail. The previously exposed corners don't affect function in any way, there was no reason to leave them exposed, so now they're not.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2020 2:40:56 PM EDT
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More pics to follow pending conclusion of v2 prototype testing. Among other things, we fixed the aesthetics, always the last thing for us to work on. The front and back corners are now conforming to those on the RMR. This isn't a functional issue, but a matter of attention to detail. The previously exposed corners don't affect function in any way, there was no reason to leave them exposed, so now they're not. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/781/Screen_Shot_2020-01-13_at_8_09_15_AM_jpg-1232612.JPG Looks good! So, it looks like we will not need a sealer plate. Am I correct?
Plan on doing anything with the cutout below the serial number? On both sides? Thanks! Can't wait. 
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Posted: 1/13/2020 6:56:04 PM EDT
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No sealer plate is required
The lines on the side won't be conforming to the cutout, as doing so has no benefits we can think of. Also, as it's compatible with the SRO which doesn't have these cutouts.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2020 7:32:44 PM EDT
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No sealer plate is required
The lines on the side won't be conforming to the cutout, as doing so has no benefits we can think of. Also, as it's compatible with the SRO which doesn't have these cutouts.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/781/IMG_4981_jpeg-1233116.JPG Thanks for the info. I hadn't paid much attention to the SRO, since it was not duty rated and did not know it was lacking the cutouts. Not a deal breaker.
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Posted: 1/13/2020 11:22:33 PM EDT
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More pics to follow pending conclusion of v2 prototype testing. Among other things, we fixed the aesthetics, always the last thing for us to work on. The front and back corners are now conforming to those on the RMR. This isn't a functional issue, but a matter of attention to detail. The previously exposed corners don't affect function in any way, there was no reason to leave them exposed, so now they're not. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/781/Screen_Shot_2020-01-13_at_8_09_15_AM_jpg-1232612.JPG |
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Posted: 1/17/2020 2:28:30 PM EDT
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V2 prototype testing will begin. It is likely we'll start production very soon, still don't have a name for it
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Posted: 1/17/2020 4:44:41 PM EDT
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V2 prototype testing will begin. It is likely we'll start production very soon, still don't have a name for it
Now it's perfected plate. |
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Posted: 1/17/2020 8:24:58 PM EDT
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V2 prototype testing will begin. It is likely we'll start production very soon, still don't have a name for it Perfected or Precision Optics Plate. Or... M-O-P machined optics plate They sound good when you pronounce them as letters.... Or the HUD plate (hard use duty plate) |
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Posted: 1/17/2020 8:31:12 PM EDT
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Anchor plate
Shear plate Impulse plate Recoil plate ... go for the feels! |
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Posted: 1/17/2020 9:08:49 PM EDT
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FC enhanced optic plate
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Posted: 1/17/2020 10:26:24 PM EDT
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The v2 prototype fit is so snug, I have to work at it to detach it from the SRO. The SRO to plate mounting screws are not installed in this pic.
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Posted: 1/17/2020 10:32:00 PM EDT
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Maybe I missed it, but have you tried any Holosun 507 optics on the plate? Same footprint as an RMR - just want to make sure it fits before I grab one when they come out. I am pretty stoked.
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Posted: 1/17/2020 10:39:54 PM EDT
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It's milled precisely for the RMR, and works perfectly on the SRO as well, I can't verify if it works on Holosun, we will find out. If it weren't for the front and rear recoil lugs/fences, I'd be confident in saying it will, but the curvature of the front recoil lug/fence makes me hesitate.
I will confirm. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 1:29:58 PM EDT
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Nice! definitely ordering one as soon as they are available!
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Posted: 1/18/2020 5:34:13 PM EDT
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It's milled precisely for the RMR, and works perfectly on the SRO as well, I can't verify if it works on Holosun, we will find out. If it weren't for the front and rear recoil lugs/fences, I'd be confident in saying it will, but the curvature of the front recoil lug/fence makes me hesitate. I will confirm. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 7:42:56 PM EDT
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Holosun sight will not work on ours without modification to the plate. The front recoil lug/fence is precision machined and mated for the RMR and SRO, Holosun's front's r value is different and doesn't conform to the current plate's curvature.
It's not difficult to make a slight change to make it fit, not sure if we have time or the desire to do it, as we're moving on to M17 plate already. Our plate has been tested with RM01, RM06 and RM05, all are tight. We hold tighter tolerances than Trijicon does the RMR, but we have to accommodate their tolerances. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:07:19 PM EDT
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Holosun sight will not work on ours without modification to the plate. The front recoil lug/fence is precision machined and mated for the RMR and SRO, Holosun's front is flat and doesn't conform to the curvature. It's not difficult to make a slight change to make it fit, not sure if we have time or the desire to do it, as we're moving on to M17 plate already. Our plate has been tested with RM01, RM06 and RM05, all are tight. We hold tighter tolerances than Trijicon does the RMR, but we have to accommodate their tolerances. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:10:40 PM EDT
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Holosun sight will not work on ours without modification to the plate. The front recoil lug/fence is precision machined and mated for the RMR and SRO, Holosun's front is flat and doesn't conform to the curvature. It's not difficult to make a slight change to make it fit, not sure if we have time or the desire to do it, as we're moving on to M17 plate already. Our plate has been tested with RM01, RM06 and RM05, all are tight. We hold tighter tolerances than Trijicon does the RMR, but we have to accommodate their tolerances. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:18:52 PM EDT
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Holosun sight will not work on ours without modification to the plate. The front recoil lug/fence is precision machined and mated for the RMR and SRO, Holosun's front is flat and doesn't conform to the curvature. It's not difficult to make a slight change to make it fit, not sure if we have time or the desire to do it, as we're moving on to M17 plate already. Our plate has been tested with RM01, RM06 and RM05, all are tight. We hold tighter tolerances than Trijicon does the RMR, but we have to accommodate their tolerances.
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:19:02 PM EDT
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It's occurred to me. It's not hard to make our RMR plate fit, so we'll look into it. It's most likely just a matter of making a less curved front recoil lug/fence. Bang, Holosun plate
It's a result of the very precise fit we have on our RMR plate, I didn't expect, and honestly, didn't care about any other optics, we were focused solely on the RMR and SRO. With what we know now, we'll most likely make a version for Holosun as well. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:47:18 PM EDT
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It's occurred to me. It's not hard to make our RMR plate fit, so we'll look into it. It's most likely just a matter of making a less curved front recoil lug/fence. Bang, Holosun plate
It's a result of the very precise fit we have on our RMR plate, I didn't expect, and honestly, didn't care about any other optics, we were focused solely on the RMR and SRO. With what we know now, we'll most likely make a version for Holosun as well. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:53:26 PM EDT
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It's occurred to me. It's not hard to make our RMR plate fit, so we'll look into it. It's most likely just a matter of making a less curved front recoil lug/fence. Bang, Holosun plate
It's a result of the very precise fit we have on our RMR plate, I didn't expect, and honestly, didn't care about any other optics, we were focused solely on the RMR and SRO. With what we know now, we'll most likely make a version for Holosun as well. |
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