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Posted: 9/17/2017 1:32:26 AM EDT
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I doubt they'll produce them in other calibers. The 3 pin system came about because .40 was cracking locking blocks on the 2 pin guns. Other models I have no idea, but I'd love to see a gen5 19/17/34 MOS be released. Also I'd buy a G43 MOS if that came out.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:50:12 AM EDT
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I doubt they'll produce them in other calibers. The 3 pin system came about because .40 was cracking locking blocks on the 2 pin guns. Other models I have no idea, but I'd love to see a gen5 19/17/34 MOS be released. Also I'd buy a G43 MOS if that came out. Only time will tell, but I find it asinine to think that Glock would release a whole generation in one single chambering, since that would leave them out of many large LEO contracts for .40 caliber guns. I could see them doing away with .357 SIG and .45 GAP, but not .40 
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Posted: 9/17/2017 4:20:17 AM EDT
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Gen 5 G19 MOS would be intriguing...
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Posted: 9/17/2017 5:15:04 AM EDT
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Hopefully 10mm because calibers other than 9 and 10mm are a waste of time.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 6:32:47 AM EDT
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Gen 5 G19 MOS would be intriguing... |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 8:22:41 AM EDT
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Everyone keeps saying this but fail to realize that the locking block was redesigned with the Gen5, and the MHS submission in .40 S&W was a 2-pin design just like the Gen5. It is likely that the redesign negated the need for the 3rd pin in .40 Only time will tell, but I find it asinine to think that Glock would release a whole generation in one single chambering, since that would leave them out of many large LEO contracts for .40 caliber guns. I could see them doing away with .357 SIG and .45 GAP, but not .40 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Glock-MHS-23-Pistol-40-SW-TFB-1-copy.jpg |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 3:35:17 PM EDT
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I'd like a Glock MHS with a 5" barrel, slim slide like the 41, available in 45ACP and 10mm.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:49:37 PM EDT
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I'd like a Glock MHS with a 5" barrel, slim slide like the 41, available in 45ACP and 10mm. That woud rock. The civilian MHS release likely will not include the manual safety. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 12:32:11 AM EDT
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I'd buy an MHS if it doesn't have a safety and a Gen5 26 for sure.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 7:05:18 AM EDT
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So you want a 40 / 41... The civilian MHS release likely will not include the manual safety. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 7:42:57 AM EDT
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Maybe a 41 on a frame similar to the one pictured above. Don't care about the safety. I get what you are saying, but it what you desire was to come to fruition it would be in the form of a Gen5 model 40/41 rather than a MHS variant. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 7:51:46 AM EDT
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I get what you are saying, but it what you desire was to come to fruition it would be in the form of a Gen5 model 40/41 rather than a MHS variant.  That sure would make for a nice hunting companion.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 8:03:04 AM EDT
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Right, thats what I would like. And I hope it wouldn't be too much to ask for a MOS version right out of the gate? That sure would make for a nice hunting companion.I won't be purchasing any Gen5 guns until MOS variants are available. I really wish that MOS had been standard on the Gen5 but that's just my humble opinion. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:08:45 AM EDT
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I'm with you... I won't be purchasing any Gen5 guns until MOS variants are available. I really wish that MOS had been standard on the Gen5 but that's just my humble opinion. I'm I'm stuck in limbo trying to figure out wether I want a Gen4 MOS 19 or 34, get a Gen 5 17-19 and get it milled, or wait until the Gen5 MOS's come out. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:20:45 AM EDT
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I'm with you... I won't be purchasing any Gen5 guns until MOS variants are available. I really wish that MOS had been standard on the Gen5 but that's just my humble opinion. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 10:08:29 AM EDT
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 10:17:22 AM EDT
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I like the option but am glad it's not standard and don't have to pay for it. I still prefer irons on defense guns.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 10:55:31 AM EDT
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Hopefully 10mm because calibers other than 9 and 10mm are a waste of time. The only reason I'd give .40 any standing is that at least in the past......when 9mm was nowhere to be found, .40 was still available in many cases. Since the .40 guns fit the same holsters/mag pouches as the 9mm, .40 can potentially provide access to ammo if you can't feed your 9mm guns due to a run on ammo. But other than that, if we are talking purely by usefulness of each caliber in comparison to other common pistol calibers....I agree 100% (for semi-autos). I'd expect Glock to come up with a gen5 .40 for police contracts though. It's a fading caliber, for sure......even if it's demise is slower than 45gap or 357sig.....9mm is still growing in popularity while everything else (besides 10mm due to it's recent resurgence due to usefulness for outdoors/hunting) is either stagnant or fading. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 11:29:26 AM EDT
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on. But they need to be machines in by someone who knows what he's doing to be secure. And if they can move around they will break more. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 12:32:23 PM EDT
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 1:55:20 PM EDT
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I think a 26.5 would be cool and a 34.5.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 4:54:39 PM EDT
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Serious question: who gives a shit? Do you really hold your finger up in the air when buying a gun and base the decision on whether or not it's 'popular'? Morons on the vast majority...do what the minority does and you're almost always doing the smart thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on. As to those pointing out that these guns are two-pin, the locking block in my Gen 5 19 has the slot for the third pin in the top. There is nothing preventing converting the gun to a 3-pin type. Just like the later Gen 2 and early Gen 3 9mm Glocks that had the mold points for the third holes. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 4:55:30 PM EDT
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I think a 26.5 would be cool and a 34.5. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 5:26:30 PM EDT
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I think you misunderstood his point. He is saying that because the market is still so small, it is not yet worth it to Glock to make MOS standard from a cost benefit analysis. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 5:46:08 PM EDT
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How long will it take for glock to produce other models and calibers in the gen 5? I personally would love to see a 20SF in gen 5. I don't think you will ever see any "SF" specific model pistols, it doesn't make sense for Glock to do that anymore. The Gen.4, and now Gen.5 pistols without any of the optional back straps installed is actually an "FS" sized grip. Every Gen.4/5 pistol is actually an "SF", just don't install a back strap. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:32:21 PM EDT
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Doesn't it seem likely that glock already ran that analysis before they released the gen 4 MOS? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think you misunderstood his point. He is saying that because the market is still so small, it is not yet worth it to Glock to make MOS standard from a cost benefit analysis. |
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:54:49 PM EDT
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I want to get in the RDS on a pistol for carry just cannot honestly decide which to go with. I am honestly waiting for competition to keep heating up and the makers to get more consistent and better. I think they are close I am leaning toward the new RMR just waiting for more people to review. I stopped being first adopted after getting burned. Waited a bit on the Gen4 Glock, waiting on the new iPhone to upgrade, and I will keep following this as I get burned less.
Really liking the new RMRs. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 1:00:07 AM EDT
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I want to get in the RDS on a pistol for carry just cannot honestly decide which to go with. I am honestly waiting for competition to keep heating up and the makers to get more consistent and better. I think they are close I am leaning toward the new RMR just waiting for more people to review. I stopped being first adopted after getting burned. Waited a bit on the Gen4 Glock, waiting on the new iPhone to upgrade, and I will keep following this as I get burned less. Really liking the new RMRs. If I were buying now I would be leaning towards the Shield RMS with the propriety MOS plate. If you have not seen it look it up on YouTube. It solves all the inherent problems of the MOS system and co-witnesses with standard height sights. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:24:21 PM EDT
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on. |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 12:30:07 PM EDT
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I am only speculating but I believe glock is currently producing other models of the gen 5. I tried to order a gen 4 20SF and all the wholesale distributors are currently out.
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Posted: 10/21/2017 1:15:35 PM EDT
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I emailed glock to ask if they where going to release Gen 5 mos and they said no. I also asked if there would be a gen 5 G26 and they also said no. They responded with just a “no sir” on both questions. I was like ugh ok.
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Posted: 10/21/2017 1:43:54 PM EDT
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I emailed glock to ask if they where going to release Gen 5 mos and they said no. I also asked if there would be a gen 5 G26 and they also said no. They responded with just a “no sir” on both questions. I was like ugh ok. |
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Posted: 10/21/2017 2:43:58 PM EDT
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I'm holding out for this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gen 5 G19 MOS would be intriguing... |
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Posted: 10/21/2017 4:57:26 PM EDT
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I emailed glock to ask if they where going to release Gen 5 mos and they said no. I also asked if there would be a gen 5 G26 and they also said no. They responded with just a “no sir” on both questions. I was like ugh ok. Give them time, I doubt they will release any additional Gen 5 versions anytime soon, at least until the new wears off. |
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Posted: 10/21/2017 8:12:18 PM EDT
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I’d like a Glock 26 Gen5.
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Posted: 10/21/2017 10:35:57 PM EDT
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Serious question: who gives a shit? Do you really hold your finger up in the air when buying a gun and base the decision on whether or not it's 'popular'? Morons on the vast majority...do what the minority does and you're almost always doing the smart thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wouldn't buy an MOS either. Optics on a handgun is still a very small market and the durability/reliability of the RMR is still not good enough to bet your life on. If RDS equipped handguns were so popular that all Glock made were MOS Gen5s, I wouldn't be owning three Gen5 19s. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 12:09:52 PM EDT
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No. I don't care what's popular, but I don't want a goofy red dot on my carry pistol and don't want the retarded MOS plate shitting up my slide. If RDS equipped handguns were so popular that all Glock made were MOS Gen5s, I wouldn't be owning three Gen5 19s. 
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Posted: 10/22/2017 12:21:51 PM EDT
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"Shitting up my slide?" Do you have a single example of the MOS system causing a failure of some kind or do you just think it doesn't look 'purdy'? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. I don't care what's popular, but I don't want a goofy red dot on my carry pistol and don't want the retarded MOS plate shitting up my slide. If RDS equipped handguns were so popular that all Glock made were MOS Gen5s, I wouldn't be owning three Gen5 19s. It would be nice to have the option, but I for one won't do it with the dovetail being moved further rear. If you absolutely WILL run a red dot, not so much an issue. If you're of the mindset that it should become the "standard", well, no. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 1:13:53 PM EDT
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"Shitting up my slide?" Do you have a single example of the MOS system causing a failure of some kind or do you just think it doesn't look 'purdy'? A properly machined installation is the only thing I would consider for an RMR. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 1:40:41 PM EDT
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I won't buy one because it interferes with rear sights that I typically like to use. It would be nice to have the option, but I for one won't do it with the dovetail being moved further rear. If you absolutely WILL run a red dot, not so much an issue. If you're of the mindset that it should become the "standard", well, no. |
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Posted: 10/22/2017 3:38:15 PM EDT
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How far back does it move the rear sight? I wasn't aware there was much difference. Does it interfere with certain kinds of aftermarket sights or does it just relocate the rear sight? 
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Posted: 10/22/2017 10:33:22 PM EDT
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I think supressor sights are a good addition to an MOS but after getting used to it I shoot my 19 much better with the red dot than I did without it.
No issues with carry, I don't see any flicker or have any issues with durability. In a situation if the dot failed, it's either close enough for point shooting or the suppressor sights are there. Dots are a natural evolution and while I own guns that will never have a dot I think they are a huge advantage. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 4:48:52 AM EDT
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I can see how that would be annoying, but it's safe to say that if block went to an "all mos" product line, the aftermarket would quickly adapt and make every sight you ever wanted in a compatible form factor.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:01:22 AM EDT
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It wasn't long ago people were saying the same thing about battle rifles.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 6:16:55 PM EDT
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Everyone keeps saying this but fail to realize that the locking block was redesigned with the Gen5, and the MHS submission in .40 S&W was a 2-pin design just like the Gen5. It is likely that the redesign negated the need for the 3rd pin in .40 Only time will tell, but I find it asinine to think that Glock would release a whole generation in one single chambering, since that would leave them out of many large LEO contracts for .40 caliber guns. I could see them doing away with .357 SIG and .45 GAP, but not .40 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Glock-MHS-23-Pistol-40-SW-TFB-1-copy.jpg |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 8:48:07 PM EDT
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It wasn't long ago people were saying the same thing about battle rifles. The ONLY reason I carry a handgun is for concealed carry and training for that role. I don't want an optic, don't want the spare parts either. |
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