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Posted: 3/22/2017 2:37:47 PM EDT
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I started my serious study of the handgun with a 1911. For many years I shot primarily Les Baer, Wilson and various custom 1911's. Being a serious gun geek though I had bought my first Glock in 1988. As the magazine ban went away and ammo technology evolved, it made more sense to me to carry a gun with more bullets. So, about 10 years ago or so I started carrying more 9's- Glocks, Xd's, Smith M&P's, Hi Powers and CZ's.
These days I rarely shoot my .45's even though, for the most part, I shoot the 1911's better than anything else. |
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Posted: 3/22/2017 5:06:09 PM EDT
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For those that stopped carrying full-size 45 1911s, why did you switch to polymer guns instead of a lightweight commander 1911 in 9mm? The DW Guardian weighs the same as a P320C or PX4 storm compact.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 8:55:55 PM EDT
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I have a MK-III BHP on my right hip, Colt LWT Commander in horizontal Shoulder holster, A G43 AIWB, and My BUG is a G26 with +2 pinky extender on my Left ankle. I have a Dangerous job.
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Posted: 3/22/2017 9:36:02 PM EDT
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For those that stopped carrying full-size 45 1911s, why did you switch to polymer guns instead of a lightweight commander 1911 in 9mm? The DW Guardian weighs the same as a P320C or PX4 storm compact. The 1911 is a two bad guy gun in a three bad guy world. Back when people mostly worried about a mugger, typical street crime bullshit etc.....a 1911, hell a wheelgun was fine. Now we have assholes with Ak's, suicide vests, body armor and a really fucking bad attitude and high dedication to a death cult called Islam to contend with.....Give me more BB's please! |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 6:08:13 PM EDT
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I have a MK-III BHP on my right hip, Colt LWT Commander in horizontal Shoulder holster, A G43 AIWB, and My BUG is a G26 with +2 pinky extender on my Left ankle. I have a Dangerous job. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 7:20:49 PM EDT
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I carried my 1911 today. Nothing changed. I don't operate, I never felt outgunned at any moment. In fact, I had the same level of confidence.
If other people want to be paranoid and force a fear mongering narrative while being prepared for their own paranoia, whatever floats their boat. But their absolutes are not universal or something to be considered because let's face it; we do not operate and the whole purpose is to carry for self defense. We don't go looking for fights and the average gunfight is 3-5 rounds. Those are real stats and not the forced narrative. Whichever it is you carry well and shoot the best whether it is metal, polymer, single or double stack, the most important part is get some training and maintain that edge. Forget the paranoid that preach the operator forced narrative life. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 9:01:26 PM EDT
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I carried my 1911 today. Nothing changed. I don't operate, I never felt outgunned at any moment. In fact, I had the same level of confidence. If other people want to be paranoid and force a fear mongering narrative while being prepared for their own paranoia, whatever floats their boat. But their absolutes are not universal or something to be considered because let's face it; we do not operate and the whole purpose is to carry for self defense. We don't go looking for fights and the average gunfight is 3-5 rounds. Those are real stats and not the forced narrative. Whichever it is you carry well and shoot the best whether it is metal, polymer, single or double stack, the most important part is get some training and maintain that edge. Forget the paranoid that preach the operator forced narrative life. See how that works? Nobody is pushing paranoia, merely a higher level of preparedness which is consistent with modern reality...... |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 10:31:43 PM EDT
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I carried my 1911 today. Nothing changed. I don't operate, I never felt outgunned at any moment. In fact, I had the same level of confidence. If other people want to be paranoid and force a fear mongering narrative while being prepared for their own paranoia, whatever floats their boat. But their absolutes are not universal or something to be considered because let's face it; we do not operate and the whole purpose is to carry for self defense. We don't go looking for fights and the average gunfight is 3-5 rounds. Those are real stats and not the forced narrative. Whichever it is you carry well and shoot the best whether it is metal, polymer, single or double stack, the most important part is get some training and maintain that edge. Forget the paranoid that preach the operator forced narrative life. |
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Posted: 3/24/2017 10:40:40 AM EDT
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Sort of. I found a good deal on a used mtac, and carried a 1911 after carrying a full size M&P or a CZ P07 all the time.
Couldn't believe how a heavier gun carried better just because it was more slim. Went to poly 9mm single stacks after that, but still carry the 1911 occasionally. |
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Posted: 3/27/2017 7:06:28 AM EDT
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Every day switch from a 45 xds to 1911 lwt commander when I get off work. A small butted pistol is just too easy to conceal effectively behind the hip, and passing the reach to lower/upper shelf test easily. Am not the imaginative type that believes no one is looking at the print from trying to conceal under a t-shirt, especially when working with bunch of tree hugging libbys, and getting into and out of desk chair most days.
Less concerned outside of work, where a commander conceals pretty good with FBI tilt at 3 oclock. While others may certainly do as they please, am not imagining effective concealment of full size pistol under a t-shirt. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 9:34:39 AM EDT
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I generally carry a Glock 27. It is small, light weight and I shoot it well. I carried a G19 on active duty and practiced with it quite a bit. I liked the 27 because it was familiar. I also carry a 1911 officer model. It is a little thinner and with the right holster I can wear it in jeans and a t-shirt. Nothing wrong with either gun. As long as you train with them and do not become complacent. As far as ammo capacity, I always carry an extra mag or 2 just in case of a malfunction. Sometimes I think people tend to overthink there ccw choices. All you need is something reliable that shoots well and works for you.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:10:55 AM EDT
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I generally carry a Glock 27. It is small, light weight and I shoot it well. I carried a G19 on active duty and practiced with it quite a bit. I liked the 27 because it was familiar. I also carry a 1911 officer model. It is a little thinner and with the right holster I can wear it in jeans and a t-shirt. Nothing wrong with either gun. As long as you train with them and do not become complacent. As far as ammo capacity, I always carry an extra mag or 2 just in case of a malfunction. Sometimes I think people tend to overthink there ccw choices. All you need is something reliable that shoots well and works for you. Sometimes they even go above and overthink what they think everyone else should be carrying as well. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:33:16 AM EDT
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I have numerous 1911s, an MP9, & a P238. I prefer carrying a CCO or LWOM 1911 in a Milt Sparks VM2. The M&P with a light is definitely the nightstand gun though.
I know there is no "my gunfight" but I do see the two scenarios as completely different. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:37:58 AM EDT
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When my full size 1911 would sag on my belt (Wilderness 5 stitch) with quality leather holster unless I cranked that motherfucker so high and tight I could not stand it anymore.
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:38:55 AM EDT
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99.9% of shooters can't shoot 6 inches at 25 yards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And yet it is still here 100+ years after it was introduced... How many are carrying P08 Lugers, P38's, Mauser C96, et al? It is still here because it WORKS yet other WWI vintage pistols have all but gone away, even the Browning Hi Power. But it is not for everyone but it cannot be dismissed 
Most ranges rent them, try it a couple of times and see what you think. If you can't shoot it at 25 yards and hold 6", it isn't the pistol. 99.9% of shooters can't shoot 6 inches at 25 yards. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 11:58:20 AM EDT
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Bullshit. I mean I get your point but 99%? It ain't THAT hard man. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 12:16:47 PM EDT
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No, it's not. He must be part of that percentage that cannot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit. I mean I get your point but 99%? It ain't THAT hard man. I work PT at a range and 90% of the shooters can't even hit the target at 25 yards. I stand there and watch it all the time. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 1:24:43 PM EDT
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Correct. I posted my 8" group on page 1(infact I already said I couldn't shoot a 6" group but I know how much you love to be edgy and not read). Let's see your 30rd group at 25 yards that's 6". I work PT at a range and 90% of the shooters can't even hit the target at 25 yards. I stand there and watch it all the time. |
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Posted: 5/14/2017 3:13:43 PM EDT
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My dad's compact colt shoots minute of barn. He carries a karh 9mm now, at least when he carries.
I had a ss 5 shot, heavy and hardly ever carried. Then I picked up a g27 and started carrying regularly. It was lighter and I have a better holster for it. Now I just picked up a 9mm shield with a iwb holster and it carries even better. If it does that conceal and carry well then you won't carry it is my experience. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 1:19:46 PM EDT
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Correct. I posted my 8" group on page 1(infact I already said I couldn't shoot a 6" group but I know how much you love to be edgy and not read). Let's see your 30rd group at 25 yards that's 6". I work PT at a range and 90% of the shooters can't even hit the target at 25 yards. I stand there and watch it all the time. I watched a guy empty what appeared to be a glock 17 at another guy he was arguing with at a gas station. They were less than 5 foot from each other screaming cursing match. He tried to shoot the guy in the face with the first shot. When he brought the pistol up it was 3~ foot from the guys head he missed. Dude turned and ran instantly in a straight line Shooter emptied the gun at him runner never appeared to be hit. |
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Posted: 5/28/2017 1:52:28 PM EDT
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Hmmm. EAA now makes a plastic-frame 1911.
Interesting... 
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Posted: 6/2/2017 2:18:50 PM EDT
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There's no either/or.
These are the pistols I carry most.  20160105_132527 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
 20160428_134241 by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
As far as shooting I can do nearly as well with these little guys...  20160428_135104_Richtone(HDR) by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
My typical performance with full sized guns these days at 25 yards is 2-3." With the snubs I can do 4-5" depending on LaserGrip or no. Once upon a time I could have holes touching with my full size revos, but I was shooting a lot more then. |
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Posted: 6/3/2017 6:39:00 PM EDT
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When my full size 1911 would sag on my belt (Wilderness 5 stitch) with quality leather holster unless I cranked that motherfucker so high and tight I could not stand it anymore. I carried a 5" steel 45 in a VMII on a 1 3/4" Wilderness CSM belt with carpenters suspenders and it was still a PITA on a long day. Went to a Glock and never looked back. I AIWB a G43 and a reload now. |
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Posted: 6/8/2017 12:55:18 PM EDT
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Edit: I have apparently already replied to this thread once
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Posted: 6/14/2017 1:37:42 PM EDT
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I like all handguns, especially nice 1911's. But for daily carry I use my Glock. Large frame steel handguns just weigh too much.
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Posted: 6/14/2017 1:47:22 PM EDT
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I like all handguns, especially nice 1911's. But for daily carry I use my Glock. Large frame steel handguns just weigh too much. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:33:47 PM EDT
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I look at it this way. I want the cheapest reliable handgun I can get for EDC because at best it just gets carried a lot and at worst it ends up sitting in an evidence locker and maybe even destroyed. Do I want my $3000 P7M13 or a nice Wilson 1911 (of which you'd usually only have one of) to end up with a case number dremeled on the slide or would you rather a cheap $500 Glock get that treatment.
For the record I carry a M&P Full Size 9mm and a 9mm shield and I'd hate to see either of those guns get the "treatment" but its the cheapest best gun for me. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 9:43:07 PM EDT
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I look at it this way. I want the cheapest reliable handgun I can get for EDC because at best it just gets carried a lot and at worst it ends up sitting in an evidence locker and maybe even destroyed. Do I want my $3000 P7M13 or a nice Wilson 1911 (of which you'd usually only have one of) to end up with a case number dremeled on the slide or would you rather a cheap $500 Glock get that treatment. For the record I carry a M&P Full Size 9mm and a 9mm shield and I'd hate to see either of those guns get the "treatment" but its the cheapest best gun for me. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:13:27 PM EDT
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Aaaaaaaand I'm back to carrying 1911s  
This one is a steel frame 70 series. I am going to test drive an alloy frame just because. 
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:47:01 PM EDT
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Hardly. And I'm a fan of the gun. |
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Posted: 6/19/2017 9:39:28 AM EDT
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Carried this Colt M1911 (s/n dated to 1916) in Iraq in 08' Let me know how Glock does after 100 yrs.
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Posted: 6/19/2017 4:25:51 PM EDT
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Carried this Colt M1911 (s/n dated to 1916) in Iraq in 08' Let me know how Glock does after 100 yrs. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P5210025_rz.JPG CD |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 9:55:10 AM EDT
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I carried a Kimber Compact CDP for 15 years. I wanted a full size 9mm for home defense and plinking that could handle lots of rounds. I settled on a CZ SP-01 Tactical and fell in love. The CGW ultralit kit helped.
I wanted to keep the same controls betwwen the SP-01 and my EDC pistol, so I sold the Kimber to fund a RAMI BD in 9mm. It conceals and weighs similarly to the Compact CDP, but I now carry 21 rounds of 9mm vs 15 in 45 ACP. Plus, I find myself practicing a lot more. I am glad I made the switch. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 11:27:38 AM EDT
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Owned and carried both. I never really had a moment where I felt outgunned with a .45 1911, nor that the 9mm from a Glock 19 was inadequate. About the most conflict that I had was whether I carry my 17 with TLR1s, or my Kimber Custom II with a .38 snubnose as backup in my jacket pocket while going out to pick up pizza at 2345.
I ended up carrying the Glock and the .38
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