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Posted: 11/11/2016 12:45:35 AM EDT
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I went with the 800 lumen HL. I made the right choice.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 11:57:38 AM EDT
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I have the TLR-1 HL on my nightime gun.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 12:31:22 PM EDT
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HL if you have a yard of any sort. It's not too bright inside either.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 1:07:19 PM EDT
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Which do you want shinning back in your eyes when you come up on target and they happen to be in front of a reflective backdrop?
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Posted: 11/11/2016 2:27:07 PM EDT
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Which do you want shinning back in your eyes when you come up on target and they happen to be in front of a reflective backdrop? Neither. But the HL is more well rounded. |
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Posted: 11/11/2016 5:00:53 PM EDT
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Which do you want shinning back in your eyes when you come up on target and they happen to be in front of a reflective backdrop? If you know how to properly use a weapon light that is not a concern. When you are clearing your house you do not want to point your weapon at everything you see. Consider this if you hear a bump in the night first thing you do is grab your firearm (rifle, pistol, or shotgun whatever you squeeze is). If you are clearing your house you are not going to be walking around with your pistol in the ready to pop first thing you see mode. Why you might ask? 1. What if the bump is your daughter sneaking back into the house after being out late with her bf, your son getting a late night snack, or your wife taking a late night dump (you do not want to Oscar Pistorius her). 2. You do not want to walk through an area with blind corners with your firearm fully extended you are asking to get it a struggle over your firearm. Proper way to clear is illuminate using the momentary with the light aimed at the floor out of your direct line of vision (if you light up in pitch blackness with the hot spot in your direct vision all you will see is a nice purple spot). The light will still fully illuminate everything you need to see and it prevents you from accidentally muzzle sweeping a loved one. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 2:00:23 AM EDT
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I've had an HL before..I'll say when coming out of a dead sleep that 800 is brutal on tired eyes.
I'll be going with the standard version next time. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 7:26:57 PM EDT
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I have a couple of the original TLR-1's, 275 lumen? They work fine for me. Purchasing a new TLR-1 I'd go with the 300 lumen for a handgun and 800 for a rifle. My .02.
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Posted: 11/13/2016 3:47:17 PM EDT
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I have both. I choose which one goes depending on how much run time ill need.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 2:51:07 PM EDT
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Roll with the HL and you wont be sorry. I run those at 3:00 on several of my patrol rifles and they are extremely high intensity which is what you want.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 3:49:55 PM EDT
[#11]
I get that the HL might be the best, but is the regular TLR-1 plenty good enough? Thanks
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Posted: 11/14/2016 6:20:28 PM EDT
[#12]
HL for sure. You don't need to blind yourself.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 6:25:06 PM EDT
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Love my HL
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Posted: 11/14/2016 11:20:32 PM EDT
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I just replaced my TLR1s with the HL. It's worth the extra dollars. You need all of the lumins. It's impressive.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 11:25:21 PM EDT
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If you know how to properly use a weapon light that is not a concern. When you are clearing your house you do not want to point your weapon at everything you see. Consider this if you hear a bump in the night first thing you do is grab your firearm (rifle, pistol, or shotgun whatever you squeeze is). If you are clearing your house you are not going to be walking around with your pistol in the ready to pop first thing you see mode. Why you might ask? 1. What if the bump is your daughter sneaking back into the house after being out late with her bf, your son getting a late night snack, or your wife taking a late night dump (you do not want to Oscar Pistorius her). 2. You do not want to walk through an area with blind corners with your firearm fully extended you are asking to get it a struggle over your firearm. Proper way to clear is illuminate using the momentary with the light aimed at the floor out of your direct line of vision (if you light up in pitch blackness with the hot spot in your direct vision all you will see is a nice purple spot). The light will still fully illuminate everything you need to see and it prevents you from accidentally muzzle sweeping a loved one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which do you want shinning back in your eyes when you come up on target and they happen to be in front of a reflective backdrop? If you know how to properly use a weapon light that is not a concern. When you are clearing your house you do not want to point your weapon at everything you see. Consider this if you hear a bump in the night first thing you do is grab your firearm (rifle, pistol, or shotgun whatever you squeeze is). If you are clearing your house you are not going to be walking around with your pistol in the ready to pop first thing you see mode. Why you might ask? 1. What if the bump is your daughter sneaking back into the house after being out late with her bf, your son getting a late night snack, or your wife taking a late night dump (you do not want to Oscar Pistorius her). 2. You do not want to walk through an area with blind corners with your firearm fully extended you are asking to get it a struggle over your firearm. Proper way to clear is illuminate using the momentary with the light aimed at the floor out of your direct line of vision (if you light up in pitch blackness with the hot spot in your direct vision all you will see is a nice purple spot). The light will still fully illuminate everything you need to see and it prevents you from accidentally muzzle sweeping a loved one. Agreed. I took a low light/ no light class a year ago....i was amazed at how intricate light is and can be used. Super cool stuff. |
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Posted: 11/14/2016 11:34:43 PM EDT
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I've had an HL before..I'll say when coming out of a dead sleep that 800 is brutal on tired eyes. I'll be going with the standard version next time. Imagine the eyes of the fucker you shine those 800 lumens into... 
HL is the way to go. |
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Posted: 11/14/2016 11:52:45 PM EDT
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I get that the HL might be the best, but is the regular TLR-1 plenty good enough? Thanks It's plenty fine. Anyone who thinks the standard TLR-1 is dim might want to switch out their batteries ;) yes the HL is brighter but the TLR-1 gets the job done and you can routinely find them for 100 dollars or less. Granted the HL is only about 20 dollars more but you do get decreased battery life (not a huge deal in a weapon light though). The TLR-1 is a good light and wont' leave you wanting IMO. The HL is pretty kick ass too and you can't go wrong with either one. If you need the 20 dollars for something else the TLR-1 will get the job done. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 6:25:20 AM EDT
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Imagine the eyes of the fucker you shine those 800 lumens into...
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I've had an HL before..I'll say when coming out of a dead sleep that 800 is brutal on tired eyes. I'll be going with the standard version next time. Imagine the eyes of the fucker you shine those 800 lumens into...
HL is the way to go. True but a home intruder likely won't be coming out of a dead sleep when he sees the light. I think the HL is good for CCW or a duty light. The regular TLR1 is fine for HD IMO. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 6:47:54 AM EDT
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I go with regular on handguns, HL on long guns.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 9:03:44 AM EDT
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No such thing as too bright.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 12:33:20 PM EDT
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No such thing as too bright. Until you're in a hallway with tile floors and gloss painted walls and pictures with glass fronts in a blackout entry. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 1:47:04 PM EDT
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Until you're in a hallway with tile floors and gloss painted walls and pictures with glass fronts in a blackout entry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as too bright. Until you're in a hallway with tile floors and gloss painted walls and pictures with glass fronts in a blackout entry. Too bright isn't the issue there...it's poor home décor at that point.... |
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Posted: 11/17/2016 5:41:09 AM EDT
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Too bright isn't the issue there...it's poor home décor at that point.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as too bright. Until you're in a hallway with tile floors and gloss painted walls and pictures with glass fronts in a blackout entry. Too bright isn't the issue there...it's poor home décor at that point.... lol. As to the OP, if you don't think you need 800 lumens the TLR1 will do you just fine. I run a 500 lumen SF light and even blipping momentary at the baseboards will light up the room. At that point you can move up into someone's face if you need to take their vision away, or just cuss at your kid for being stupid and waking you up. |
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Posted: 11/17/2016 11:04:16 PM EDT
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For CCW on a G19, 300 lumens or 800 lumens? (run time is 2.5 vs 1.75 hrs, cost is $20 more for the HL, bfd) 300 is pretty bright, but if you are bouncing light off the ground 800 seems better. OTOH, blinding the person so he doesn't know he is about to get shot is a disadvantage as well. TLR-1 or TLR-1 HL Well, the HL got here. It is quite bright. It might wind up on a rifle. I am signed up for a class on Sunday and hopefully my holster will get here and we will do some practice in the dark. If it is too bright, I might wind up with the Surefire XC1. I don't like how the light extends past the muzzle on the G19. I suppose a G34 would fix that as well. 
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Posted: 11/18/2016 2:53:30 PM EDT
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Well, the HL got here. It is quite bright. It might wind up on a rifle. I am signed up for a class on Sunday and hopefully my holster will get here and we will do some practice in the dark. If it is too bright, I might wind up with the Surefire XC1. I don't like how the light extends past the muzzle on the G19. I suppose a G34 would fix that as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For CCW on a G19, 300 lumens or 800 lumens? (run time is 2.5 vs 1.75 hrs, cost is $20 more for the HL, bfd) 300 is pretty bright, but if you are bouncing light off the ground 800 seems better. OTOH, blinding the person so he doesn't know he is about to get shot is a disadvantage as well. TLR-1 or TLR-1 HL Well, the HL got here. It is quite bright. It might wind up on a rifle. I am signed up for a class on Sunday and hopefully my holster will get here and we will do some practice in the dark. If it is too bright, I might wind up with the Surefire XC1. I don't like how the light extends past the muzzle on the G19. I suppose a G34 would fix that as well. For carry I really like my XC1. |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 1:55:02 AM EDT
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For carry I really like my XC1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For CCW on a G19, 300 lumens or 800 lumens? (run time is 2.5 vs 1.75 hrs, cost is $20 more for the HL, bfd) 300 is pretty bright, but if you are bouncing light off the ground 800 seems better. OTOH, blinding the person so he doesn't know he is about to get shot is a disadvantage as well. TLR-1 or TLR-1 HL Well, the HL got here. It is quite bright. It might wind up on a rifle. I am signed up for a class on Sunday and hopefully my holster will get here and we will do some practice in the dark. If it is too bright, I might wind up with the Surefire XC1. I don't like how the light extends past the muzzle on the G19. I suppose a G34 would fix that as well. For carry I really like my XC1. Someone in another thread was having issues with their XC1. I can still put the 'HL on an AR and I am only out a holster. ($53) http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_13/171776_IWB_Carry.html&page=1 |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 12:14:47 PM EDT
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I have a TLR-1 HL on my shotgun and for my handgun I use a TLR-1s.
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Posted: 11/26/2016 3:52:54 AM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun.
For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 8:06:59 PM EDT
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hl
no reason to get less lumens |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 3:45:13 AM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 Ahhhh purple spots ..... all I see is purple spots everywhere I think I am hallucinating. Clearing is never fun especially when all you are seeing is purple spots. |
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Posted: 11/27/2016 4:48:15 AM EDT
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hl no reason to get less lumens Blindness and run time? I feel the regular tlr-1 is perfect. (Tlr-1 owner/armchair commando) |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 5:25:32 AM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 I can agree with the above. The 600 lumen streamlight I have mounted on my rifle is very harsh indoors, especially in very near dark areas where your eyes are already adjusted to the darkness. |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 10:53:39 AM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 If it's too bright for duty use when wide awake and alert wouldn't it be way too much coming out of a dead sleep? |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 11:12:00 AM EDT
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If it's too bright for duty use when wide awake and alert wouldn't it be way too much coming out of a dead sleep? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 If it's too bright for duty use when wide awake and alert wouldn't it be way too much coming out of a dead sleep? My house has dark hardwood throughout, so bouncing light off the floor negates most of the problem. Additionally I know my homes layout, so I barely have to use the light anyway. If not for these facts, then the answer would be yes. |
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Posted: 11/30/2016 5:32:47 PM EDT
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HL if you have a yard of any sort. It's not too bright inside either. Agreed. Its only bright when clearing small bathrooms looking behind shower curtains 
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Posted: 11/30/2016 6:06:25 PM EDT
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HL. I have yet to encounter "too much light" on a battery operated device.
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Posted: 11/30/2016 6:22:22 PM EDT
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Ahhhh purple spots ..... all I see is purple spots everywhere I think I am hallucinating. Clearing is never fun especially when all you are seeing is purple spots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 Ahhhh purple spots ..... all I see is purple spots everywhere I think I am hallucinating. Clearing is never fun especially when all you are seeing is purple spots. I'm not a cop. If the light is on indoors it's to find the switch or I've found the bad guy and it's being used on him. I'm not tactical enough to go room to room the hard way. I'll use the switches just inside each room's door. |
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Posted: 12/16/2016 9:01:19 PM EDT
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Had 'em both, stuck with HL. MUCH Brighter!
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Posted: 12/17/2016 9:37:47 PM EDT
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I'm not a cop. If the light is on indoors it's to find the switch or I've found the bad guy and it's being used on him. I'm not tactical enough to go room to room the hard way. I'll use the switches just inside each room's door. Me neither but years back I cleared some buildings and it is not fun wondering if this is the door I am going to open where someone is going to be behind that will shoot back or if I am going to pop the wrong person because the object in their hand happened to look like a weapon in the split second I light them up. I think I will stick to being a couch commando and hope I do not have to never do anymore clearing. I do still practice, took a low/no light course, go to the range at dusk, and practice moving in the house with the lights off. One thing I have done in my house is put LED lights in the outlets scattered all over the house mostly to keep me from busting a toe or knee walking around at night. |
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Posted: 1/2/2017 5:10:58 PM EDT
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I've had an HL before..I'll say when coming out of a dead sleep that 800 is brutal on tired eyes. I'll be going with the standard version next time. This is exactly my experience. I have 2 HL models and the standard 300lm model. I woke up in the middle of the night to a loud crash and the sound of shattered glass. Even with splashing the light and using its spill, HOLY HELL. I use the 300lm model for HD. The HL models are great for someone with a large yard or enormous open areas inside their home. My home being all tile with light colored walls certainly didnt help either. |
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Posted: 1/12/2017 10:57:46 PM EDT
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Too bright isn't the issue there...it's poor home décor at that point.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No such thing as too bright. Until you're in a hallway with tile floors and gloss painted walls and pictures with glass fronts in a blackout entry. Too bright isn't the issue there...it's poor home décor at that point.... As an interior architect by profession, the poor home decor comment made me laugh a little and is truth. Sounds like you need to invest in some flat sheen paint for those walls. 
As to which version of the TLR you should get...I have the HL and I personally don't have any issues with its brightness. Like others have said, it can be a little bright in complete darkness when you hit the switch the first time, but if you are aiming at the floor and not staring directly at that spot, it becomes more ambient and won't bother your eyes. It also depends on the distance between you and the surface the light hits...if it's a wall thats 20 ft down a hall it won't seem as bright as a wall that is 4 ft away...we can all sit here and give scenarios of when it will and won't be too bright, but its all relevant to each situation. I say all that to say again that I went with the HL after having the same debate with myself about which model to get and I don't regret my choice. I would rather have more light than I need than be in a situation where it's not enough. |
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Posted: 1/13/2017 7:12:36 AM EDT
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I went with a HL. |
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Posted: 1/15/2017 8:11:15 AM EDT
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I have both and I prefer the regular. The HL can be blinding inside the house at night.
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Posted: 2/2/2017 6:12:44 PM EDT
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I have not had a chance to try the HL model, but i do have a TLR-1s and its great for inside the home. Using this to tag this thread for future reference.
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Posted: 2/3/2017 4:55:47 PM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 |
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Posted: 3/14/2017 9:28:48 AM EDT
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Since the sun isn't available, I choose the HL. Proper technique gentlemen.
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Posted: 3/15/2017 10:09:10 AM EDT
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Anyone who says there is no such thing as too much light has never tried clearing a building using proper technique (illuminate, move, repeat). I have had a TLR-1s on my duty pistol for the past 3 years, and recently bought a X-300U to "upgrade". The first night I cleared a building with it (church with white walls) my night vision was obliterated and I was seeing spots. I put the TLR back on my duty weapon and the X-300 now lives on my nightstand gun. For the record I have spent 90% of my law enforcement career on night shift, and have cleared a LOT of buildings. Just my $.02 I've never thought to myself "that light is too bright" when clearing a building with either the X300U(500 lumens) or the Inforce WMLx(800 lumens) on the rifle. |
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Posted: 3/17/2017 6:05:03 PM EDT
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Just put a TLR-1HL on my Glock 17. I'm glad I went with it.
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Posted: 3/21/2017 12:51:44 PM EDT
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I've never thought to myself "that light is too bright" when clearing a building with either the X300U(500 lumens) or the Inforce WMLx(800 lumens) on the rifle. Technique is important. |
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