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Posted: 2/2/2010 5:24:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2010 5:34:11 AM EDT by grimhollow]
I used this thread as a guide to attaching a sling to my AK pistol. I put the loop around the pistol grip retaining screw for a little bit more support, but I think the way dfwgun shows in his thread would work just fine also. I'm using a Magpul MS2 sling right now, and it works very well in single point and two point mode. I added another small loop of paracord on the front sling mount also, to accommodate the clamp on the MS2 sling which was just a tad bit too big for the factory sling mount.



Feel free to post your ideas, and pictures of how you attached your sling!
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 10:24:19 AM EDT
I saw where someone used nylon strapping, like from a sling which had a quick release buckle right behind the grip. Only got a quick look, but looks like he did something similar to the para-cord thing you did. I hope he sees this and posts his pics. Don't have one, yet, but working on it.
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 11:44:56 AM EDT
Anyone source a folding loop to mount at the side rear of the receiver? I'll try to find a pic as I know its a factory part on some AkK variants.
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 1:14:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2010 1:27:48 PM EDT by MrMONEYman]
Originally Posted By bikeman543:
I saw where someone used nylon strapping, like from a sling which had a quick release buckle right behind the grip. Only got a quick look, but looks like he did something similar to the para-cord thing you did. I hope he sees this and posts his pics. Don't have one, yet, but working on it.


That'll be me.....








I basically did the same thing as the OP. I took a 1" nylon strap, melted a hole the same diameter as the pistol grip screw. I then took off the grip and used the pistol grip bolt/screw as an anchor point for my sling strap. One thing I like about using this strap method is that I don't have to cut (notch) out the pistol grip. Just tighten the grip down and the finish product will be flush w/ the bottom of the receiver.

At the end of the strap I put on a plastic buckle. Attached to the buckle I made a simple sling loop. Works surprisingly well too.

The cost of materials was approx. $5. Nothing too fancy bout it. Let me know if you guys want more details.

Link Posted: 2/2/2010 8:04:26 PM EDT
Drilling and Tapping for a sling loop stud on the rear of the receiver is a good idea. The picture below is a stud attached to the side/rear of an AMD-65

Link Posted: 2/3/2010 9:54:59 PM EDT
What I really would like to do is weld a Yugo rear sling loop to either the end plate or in the place it would be on a Yugo. But I know less than nothing about welding. Any info?
Link Posted: 2/4/2010 12:33:03 PM EDT
I drilled a hole in the back plate and put a single point sling in it. Works great and can be quickly attatched/removed. The cost was $7 for the mount and $4 for the leather Hungarian sling.
Link Posted: 2/4/2010 6:14:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/4/2010 6:14:52 PM EDT by oliverb]
There's the Tapco "Single Point Sling Nut" for $6.99 with your own bolt:

http://tapco.links.channelintelligence.com/pages/prices.asp?sSKU=STK6601&nRGID=2414

and the eyehole "Clip Sling Mount" for $12:

http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=104&products_id=336&osCsid=3500be9a41b008fdb954d767fd14e39

Other suggestions in previous posts also good options. Haven't yet decided on which I will use on my 1st Draco which I ordered a few days ago.
Link Posted: 2/4/2010 6:19:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By uscombatdiver:
I drilled a hole in the back plate and put a single point sling in it. Works great and can be quickly attatched/removed. The cost was $7 for the mount and $4 for the leather Hungarian sling.

This is what I'm going to do eventually, but with a 2 point sling.

Link Posted: 2/4/2010 9:58:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By uscombatdiver:
I drilled a hole in the back plate and put a single point sling in it. Works great and can be quickly attatched/removed. The cost was $7 for the mount and $4 for the leather Hungarian sling.


Pictures???
Link Posted: 2/5/2010 6:32:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/5/2010 6:32:28 AM EDT by uscombatdiver]
I'm a dumb nut, I have been on this site for 3 years and this whole time thought I could not post pictures. Here is a picture (also in the picture forum) of it until I can get home and take better ones to show you what it has.



The scope was just something for fun and a joke on our local build group website, while it did have an AK side mount here it currently does not (since I rebuilt it on a NDS receiver since this picture). I'm thinking of a top rail if anything.
Link Posted: 2/6/2010 3:46:28 PM EDT
Today I picked up raw material at Bass Pro Shops for the sling setup. along with the normal 1" sling hardware it included a machine threaded stud with a nut. There are plenty of wood based sling studs, but I needed a machined screw type. I drilled the rear of the Draco with a very small bit to determine the depth. I came to the determination the machine threaded stud was not long enough to use the nut. I figured out which drill and tap to use - and it worked out perfect. In fact, after tightening, the bottom of the machined screw comes flush with the inside of the Draco. I used a bit of Blue Loctite, and Viola! - a nice factory looking sling attachment point.

I thought about doing pics, but I was working alone and frankly it isn't that exciting. I barely had enough hands as it was.

Other than Tap and drill bit selection, the important part is to block the Action from any metal shavings from the drilling and tapping. As normal, use plenty of oil on the tap and remove it often after cutting just a few threads. Don't force the cutting of threads in one operation because it's not going to happen, you'll end up snapping the tap off or ending up with messed up weak threads.

The hardware cost about $15, and was made by Uncle Mikes - part #1231-2. I only used a couple of the parts, but it was the only package I saw there that had a stud with threaded machine screw/nut in addition to the typical wood type stud.

Here the after pic.

Link Posted: 2/8/2010 12:44:47 PM EDT
I drilled and tapped the center back of my Yugo pistol for a Yankee Hill 360 degree swivel base that has the uncle mikes TYPE post in the center except it swivels 360 and made an 1.25 nylon adjustable sling for it so it hangs very nicely under my right shoulder and comes up so very fast. I got pics but don't know how to post. If anybody interested e-mail me at discodogmeat@comcast.net and I'll send you one...........
Link Posted: 2/8/2010 5:06:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/26/2010 8:53:01 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 2/26/2010 9:59:30 AM EDT
Any good loop that a MS2 hook will fit through?
Link Posted: 2/26/2010 2:29:57 PM EDT
I'm thinking about picking this up and doing the drilling & tapping:
http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=308
I like the idea that it'll quick-release and swivel.
Anyone use this set-up or something like it?
I have a tap wrench and #21 bit/10-32 tap combo waiting to be put to use but I'd like to know what the general opinion on that swivel is before I order.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 2/26/2010 4:23:58 PM EDT
I dont know how some of yall did this, my rear trunion was too hard for a carbine bit. ........ideas?

I am thinking of making a small metal plate with a loop on it and tac welding it to the rear and repainting it.
Link Posted: 2/26/2010 4:28:44 PM EDT
Also, this rivet pattern looks like you have an underfolder trunion........note the layout on the other pics compared to this

Link Posted: 2/26/2010 5:24:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2010 5:26:26 PM EDT by grimhollow]
Originally Posted By scout308:
Also, this rivet pattern looks like you have an underfolder trunion........note the layout on the other pics compared to this

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4325275888_8a1aab6a28_b.jpg


I think it's an AMD65 side folding trunnion.... here's what it looks like inside...

The rivets toward the front of the gun are not attached to anything, they are just there I'm guessing to fill some holes that might have been in the receiver.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 8:28:15 AM EDT
heres my method used a ar15 butt sling mount i had laying around. mounted it fixed with the sling mount hanging over to the left of the gun
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 11:29:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By stuch77:
heres my method used a ar15 butt sling mount i had laying around. mounted it fixed with the sling mount hanging over to the left of the gunhttp://i48.tinypic.com/v32lh2.jpg


That's a pretty good idea, looks good! Your Draco has got to be in the top 3 best looking AK pistols I've seen yet.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 12:13:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By grimhollow:
Originally Posted By stuch77:
heres my method used a ar15 butt sling mount i had laying around. mounted it fixed with the sling mount hanging over to the left of the gunhttp://i48.tinypic.com/v32lh2.jpg


That's a pretty good idea, looks good! Your Draco has got to be in the top 3 best looking AK pistols I've seen yet.


thankx. got it fri of last week work on it on and off over this weekend. i'd said a total of 8 hrs spent to make it look the way it does.
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 1:20:24 PM EDT
ok here i go. this is one of those stupid ? but i gotta ask. i bought a sling for my draco all fine and dandy. my ? is how would i use it to better my shooting experence.
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 1:49:54 PM EDT
use reverse sling pressure to steady the weapon wile fireing. increases accuracy of fast follow up shots in the adsence of a stock
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 1:52:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2010 1:52:51 PM EDT by bikeman543]
Reverse Sling Pressure. Push the pistol out away from your body, tight, against the sling. Never a stupid question.
Link Posted: 3/3/2010 2:30:10 PM EDT
what is reverse sling pressure what does it look like?
Link Posted: 3/4/2010 4:33:15 PM EDT
Did you see my post at the bottom of page 1?
Link Posted: 3/17/2010 6:23:53 PM EDT
I use this, it is called a VM1

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/eastbaysti/Draco/akplatevm1.jpg
Easy to install and requires no cutting or any hard work. Just remove PG slide in between PG and receiver and re-attach :D

-GioM
Link Posted: 3/17/2010 11:18:08 PM EDT
Ummm, hey Gio............. WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE??????
Link Posted: 3/18/2010 12:10:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BigTony:
Ummm, hey Gio............. WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE??????


Funny you should ask ;) YGPM

-GioM
Link Posted: 3/18/2010 12:42:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BigTony:
Ummm, hey Gio............. WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE??????


I would like one too
Link Posted: 3/19/2010 10:56:51 AM EDT
I want one too! I sent a PM but I figured if I just blurted that out here I'd be safe covering my bases.
Link Posted: 3/19/2010 6:08:01 PM EDT
PM sent to those that requested one or sent me a PM already

-Gio
Link Posted: 3/20/2010 8:54:03 PM EDT
Got bored tonight.... I was going to do the 550 cord idea, but could only find my OD green and not my black cord. GioM inspired me to try something different
I took some of my flat bar left over from the "poor man's bending jig" and Dremeled until I got this. I also heat treated the sling attachment end.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010120.jpg

Here it is attached to the rifle... I mean pistol. I was surprised to find that there was no play, it fits pretty tight. Tomorrow I will sand blast and paint.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010117.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010118.jpg
Link Posted: 3/21/2010 3:07:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Defender92:
Got bored tonight.... I was going to do the 550 cord idea, but could only find my OD green and not my black cord. GioM inspired me to try something different
I took some of my flat bar left over from the "poor man's bending jig" and Dremeled until I got this. I also heat treated the sling attachment end.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010120.jpg

Here it is attached to the rifle... I mean pistol. I was surprised to find that there was no play, it fits pretty tight. Tomorrow I will sand blast and paint.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010117.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/defender92/S3010118.jpg


That's pretty cool, looks good!
Link Posted: 3/21/2010 1:35:23 PM EDT
The VM1 Sling Mount is available over here, you can also contact me at my primary e-mail gio.nsd@gmail.com

Thanks,

-GIoM
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 6:38:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 8:02:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
1" Stainless Steel DEE and Gun-Kote

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/PowerRanger40/IMAG0009-1.jpg


where did you get that?
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 8:07:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tony44:
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
1" Stainless Steel DEE and Gun-Kote

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a476/PowerRanger40/IMAG0009-1.jpg


where did you get that?


Yes, we must know where you got this item.
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 8:34:57 AM EDT
5ea 1" Clip and Dee Stainless Steel 1954SS

ebay
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 9:12:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
5ea 1" Clip and Dee Stainless Steel 1954SS

ebay


Cool, thanks!
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 11:01:09 AM EDT
How did you attach it? It doesn't look like either of those holes would reach the pistol grip bolt.
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 10:16:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
5ea 1" Clip and Dee Stainless Steel 1954SS

ebay


Thank you for the link. 5 for $7 + $2.40 for shipping. Anybody wants to splite these?

Link Posted: 3/27/2010 10:32:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RED-X:
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
5ea 1" Clip and Dee Stainless Steel 1954SS

ebay


Thank you for the link. 5 for $7 + $2.40 for shipping. Anybody wants to splite these?



I'll take one. Let me know what I owe you.

Thanks, Tony
Link Posted: 3/28/2010 2:35:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RED-X:
Originally Posted By PowerRAnger40:
5ea 1" Clip and Dee Stainless Steel 1954SS

ebay


Thank you for the link. 5 for $7 + $2.40 for shipping. Anybody wants to splite these?



Same here! IM inbound.
Link Posted: 3/28/2010 3:04:52 PM EDT
So, did I miss the thread or reply that says how it is attached? Do the holes line up with the pistol grip bolt or do you have to drill another one? What's up with it?
Link Posted: 3/28/2010 5:08:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bikeman543:
How did you attach it? It doesn't look like either of those holes would reach the pistol grip bolt.


I just squeezed it between the grip and the receiver. I did notch it a bit for the grip bolt. The 2 layers of metal are pretty solid.
Link Posted: 3/28/2010 8:56:04 PM EDT
so you're saying it is just basically wedged between the grip and receiver? Just the pressure is holding it in there?
Link Posted: 3/28/2010 9:10:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/29/2010 8:16:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bikeman543:
so you're saying it is just basically wedged between the grip and receiver? Just the pressure is holding it in there?

Correct
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