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Posted: 2/19/2006 6:55:47 PM EDT
I've heard people say they have taken deer with this round nut what about elk? Good enough...what about other game like TX wild pigs?
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:01:55 PM EDT
I wouldn't use it on anything larger than Whitetail Deer. It would be great for wild pigs.

For Elk, I wouldn't use anything smaller than .30-06 and would actually prefer .300 WIN Mag. Elk are just too big & tough for 7.62x39, which has less power than the .30-30 round.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:15:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtstinger:
I wouldn't use it on anything larger than Whitetail Deer. It would be great for wild pigs.

For Elk, I wouldn't use anything smaller than .30-06 and would actually prefer .300 WIN Mag. Elk are just too big & tough for 7.62x39, which has less power than the .30-30 round.


I'm not expert, but I think you'd be out of your mind to use something like 7.62x39 on anything larger than deer (and at most deer-ranges, I wouldn't even want to use it for deer). I just don't think it's fast enough with enough penetration.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:21:38 PM EDT
I have used it on pig, I would use it on deer, but that is about as big as I would go with it...
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:20:46 PM EDT
yea......just bump your drum into him
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 9:32:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 4:16:36 AM EDT
Now I certainly don't recommend it, but I sold a guy an SKS several years ago and he killed a 900 pound moose with it, shot placement, no lie.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:59:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 11:39:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
54r



Along those lines I was thinking more like 7.5x55mm, but I could try my MN's too.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 12:59:09 PM EDT
Shot placement without a doubt is key. I personally know people that have poached ELK with a .22 and one shot (and a flashlight ). BUT, that being said................nothing less than a .308 or .30-06 would be my choice (from experience).

They are BIG animals.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 1:31:02 PM EDT
7.62X54r

For sure ! I just bought my first Mosin Nagant rifle this week, what a round ! fire and recoil man.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 1:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 1:36:42 PM EDT by Rodent]
Jesus Christ and General Jackson, it is emphatically not an elk round.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 1:48:39 PM EDT
I can't believe you are even considering that round for Elk!

How would you like to die? Quick or slow? If you like slow than you better plan on hiking for a long, long time. I hope the Elk kicks your ass quite frankly......what a dufous. You shouldn't be able to own a gun in my opinion.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 1:55:19 PM EDT
Unless you can hit a bullseye at 200 yards with it while being shot at i'd say that shooting an Elk *or moose for that matter* with a 7.62x39 is suicide.. you will manage to piss off a beast that will gladly put you into orbit with a few more big holes in your body....

hell if you want to take down an elk with a commie block rifle go grab a mosen..
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 2:02:06 PM EDT
458 Win Mag. Knock the Elk's dick into the dirt.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 2:14:21 PM EDT
Mosin Nagant 91/30 with Privi Partisan 180gr. SP...

Plenty of power to get the Elk, and if he charges you then you have that huge ass bayo to fight him off with!
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 2:29:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NRA2:
I can't believe you are even considering that round for Elk!

How would you like to die? Quick or slow? If you like slow than you better plan on hiking for a long, long time. I hope the Elk kicks your ass quite frankly......what a dufous. You shouldn't be able to own a gun in my opinion.



sorry. that's funny.....
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 4:51:11 PM EDT
shot placement

shot placement

shot placement

and being a ex track star wouln't hurt eather
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:15:57 PM EDT
not to endorse the idea but IIRC a large portion of elphants poached in africa are done with the AK47. Multiple rounds (of course) of FMJ most doubtly done on full auto at close ranges but I think if you needed to eat and had the AK and an ELK was close you could be eating instead of starving. I prefer my 300 RUM but if it was starve or try I would at least try as a last resort.
My .02 worth
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 5:19:32 PM EDT
I would only use 30-06 on whitetail. Something bigger on Elk.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 6:59:34 PM EDT
A guy used a 30-06 and went through one elk and also killed the second.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:04:09 PM EDT
I have killed the ass off dear with 7.62x39,but i wouldnt use it on an elk.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:04:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomovich:
Shot placement without a doubt is key. I personally know people that have poached ELK with a .22 and one shot (and a flashlight ). BUT, that being said................nothing less than a .308 or .30-06 would be my choice (from experience).

They are BIG animals.



Someone should shoot each of those assholes....

Fucking Poachers
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:22:20 PM EDT
Good for deer and pigs, but NOT an elk round, at all. Sure you could kill it (hell you could kill it with a .22 technically) but it is not a good idea. .30-06, .300 WIN MAG, .308, etc. are good elk rounds.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:42:01 PM EDT
Don't let all these misinformed assholes discourage you; 154gr sp 7.62X39 would be an excellent choice.

As long as you hit the elk in the brain.

Link Posted: 2/20/2006 7:52:39 PM EDT
Friends of a friend emphatically used .223 on Elk with suprisingly good results.

That said, I certainly wouldn't consider the 7.62X39 (or the .223 for that matter) an adequate Elk round.

For pigs? Have at it!
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:06:06 PM EDT
Shot placement. Remember the scene in BHD where the CAG guys took cape buffalo with 5.56 from M733's (Colt Commandos IRL, yes I know most of them were actually M4's in the movie) ? That part actually did happen. Maybe not exactly the way it's portrayed in the movie, but nonetheless, it did happen. However, there are far better choices for elk. Personally, I'd want at least a heavy load in .30-'06 or .308, I'd prefer 7mm Rem Mag. It's doable, but not sure about the legality and there are better choices. If you had a rifle laying around in good shape that fires 8mm Mauser (such as one of the never used or lightly used Yugo M48A's, you could use a heavy 8mm load to do the job. The problem is, most 8mm in the US is downloaded for surplus rifles. Europeans have hotter 8mm loads which are capable of taking virtually all big game on the planet easily aside from elephants and cape buffalo (and even then, it's a possibility). If you could get ammo like that in the US that hasn't been downloaded, you would have a cartridge ballistically similar to .30-'06, but throwing a bigger, heavier bullet,which will give a penetration advantage. I wouldn't recommend 7.62x54R because it can be hard to find decent hunting loads in that caliber and there's plenty of other available calibers that are much more powerful. 7.62x54R is in the same league as .303 British, 7.7mm Japanese, 7.5mm Swiss Service, etc in that they're all roughly .30 caliber cartridges (most in that list are actually .311) but all are rather underpowered compared to rounds of similar size in similar calibers.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:08:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 8:11:11 PM EDT by THellURider]
You've got to be shitting me. We need more hunters on this site, serious hunters.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:23:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 8:24:27 PM EDT by Taipan]
Hey all smart asses and elitists, I posted the question for a reason. I don't know the answer. I'm not a hunter and wouldn't know the answer. Dont get your panties all in a bunch...what are discussion forums for if we can't ask a freak'n question. Dickheads...


Sorry this post isn't for the poeple who legitmately responded.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:28:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 8:30:31 PM EDT by Lando12]

Originally Posted By Taipan:
Hey all smart asses and elitists, I posted the question for a reason. I don't know the answer. I'm not a hunter and wouldn't know the answer. Dont get your panties all in a bunch...what are discussion forums for if we can't ask a freak'n question. Dickheads...


Sorry this post isn't for the poeple who legitmately responded.



calm down get that sand out of your gina... I ment it when I said bump an ak drum into him
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:30:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 8:35:57 PM EDT by THellURider]
Look everyone who doesn't know better always argues, "Shot Placement". You could realistically kill a Elk with a .177 air rifle. But the thing here is you want to be A) humane and B) have a caliber of handling any of the situations that mnay arise because 99.9999% of the time you won't get that ideal shot.

I wouldn't go after Elk with anything less than .300 Win Mag. Elk get incredible dumps of adrenalin so if your bullet, and placement isn't right they can run forever.

ETA: Where are you in Colorado?

ETA: You need a bullet with penetration. I reccomend Barnes X.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:30:49 PM EDT
lol, I think we need the Pit to be reopened right quick As I said before, a lot of things can kill a given animal, but that doesn't necessarily mean they should be used for that when better options are available.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 8:32:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lando12:

Originally Posted By Taipan:
Hey all smart asses and elitists, I posted the question for a reason. I don't know the answer. I'm not a hunter and wouldn't know the answer. Dont get your panties all in a bunch...what are discussion forums for if we can't ask a freak'n question. Dickheads...


Sorry this post isn't for the poeple who legitmately responded.



hey, I ment it when I said bump an ak drum into him




LOL Your post is an exception to my short rant. At least it was actually funny.
I just get tired of some of the attitude around here sometimes. The dark side of ARF used to be a lot more fun.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 9:59:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/20/2006 9:59:54 PM EDT by JAR420]
Cut the guy some slack...he's asking because he does not know. Would you rather he go out and try it, or ask here first?
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:33:26 PM EDT
I usually hunt elk w/ a bow, but a 7.62x54 would work (I just bought a second Mosin Nagant rifle)
or better yet for a inexpensive surplus rifle would be a Mauser 8mm
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