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Posted: 2/18/2006 7:05:20 PM EDT
I just bought a Mosin Nagant and I am wondering if any current production guns or old militay surplus are in the 7.62 by 54R caliber? SOG had some of this for a belt fed.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:11:54 PM EDT
PKM for belt fed.

SVT 38 and 40 are semi-autos
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:36:44 PM EDT
The Mosin Nagants are by far the most popular. You've got the M44, M38, and M91/30 which are the most popular of the bunch. But there's also M59s but they're not too common. Then you have the Finnish M39 which most say is the best and one of the most accurate rifles you can buy.

Stove pipe hit the SVT-38 and SVT-40 Tokarevs. They are WWII era semi-autos, but they're very rare and very expensive. The work like an SKS and have a detachable 10-round magazine. They look really cool, their lines look too modern for their timeframe and they have a menacing look to them.

The Romanian PSL is a AK-based rifle designed to do the job of the Dragunov. They have a similar appearance and are very accurate also.

Then of course there's the legendary SVD Dragunov, but unless you don't have anything better to do with several thousand dollars, you can't touch them. Man I wish I could afford one!

You could get a semi-auto PKM like stove pipe said. Very expensive. For the money I'd rather have an SVD.

Can't think of anything else....but there's bound to be a few more.


Link Posted: 2/18/2006 7:59:54 PM EDT
I have two M-38s, a M-91/30, M-44, Romanian PSL, and a Soviet SVT-40. All of them original, all numbers match.

The PSL is an overgrown AK. Get one originally made in Romania and you can't go wrong.

The SVT-40 is amazing. The blueing is more durable than anything else on the market- that gun will not rust no matter what you do to it. I find that it uses the crappy MN stripper clips well, the ones that suck when you try them in the MN. The SVT-40 is light, accurate, with low recoil and excellent looks. Heat is not something known to this gun, its design allows for extremely rapid cooling. However, PLEASE use non corrosive in your SVT. The SVT system is fairly simple to someone who knows what they are doing, but it can be difficult to some and if it is to you then keep to NC. Olympic NC can get as low as $4 per 20.

There are also DP-28 kits in the US, 99% are Polish, the DP-28 is the cool LMG used by Russia that had the top-mounted 47 (or 49, and in the tanker models 60) round drums. It went out of service in the early 50s.

Then the PK and PKMs already mentioned.

Then the Dragunov, the Soviet military sniper rifle which is like a hybrid between the AK and SKS.

Then the NDM-86, the Chinese Dragunov copy that came in 7.62x54R and .308,

Then the Tigr, the Soviet commercial Dragunov that had a shorter barrel.

Then the AVT, the automatic version of the SVT. To my knowledge, none are in the US.

Then the AVS-36, semi-auto, basically a really early SKS that took 7.62x54r.



And of course there are many oddball variants of the Mosin Nagant... the M-91/38, the M-1907, the M-27, the M-28, the M-91, the M-39, the Type 53 (Chinese variant of the M-44)... and the list goes on.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 6:16:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 7:01:44 AM EDT
7.62x54R...



Spooky
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 8:05:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RS39:
And the Maxim gun

also see 7.62x54r.net




This will be very helpfull. Thanks guys. I bought two 880 round cases from SG for $75 each case before I even had a rifle.
I figure that without the ammunition the rifle is worthless. I want to get the cheap version of the Dragunov when I can afford it.
Link Posted: 2/19/2006 9:56:04 AM EDT

There are also DP-28 kits in the US, 99% are Polish, the DP-28 is the cool LMG used by Russia that had the top-mounted 47 (or 49, and in the tanker models 60) round drums. It went out of service in the early 50s.


Any info on where these kits may be? And Recievers? Sounds like a cool project build.
Link Posted: 2/20/2006 10:19:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 2:14:10 PM EDT
Any word on legal Semi Receivers?
Link Posted: 2/28/2006 3:17:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/28/2006 3:19:20 PM EDT by RiffRandall]

Originally Posted By RS39:
And the Maxim gun

also see 7.62x54r.net




plus...
Soviet
RP46 (belt fed mod to the DPM/DP28 "record player" mg)
SG43 & SGM heavy mg
they also had some Colt-Browning "potato digger" M1895 mg
Winchester M1895 lever action muskets (bayonet mount, stripper clip guide) IIRC something like 1/2 to 3/4 of all M1895 Winchesters ever made were in 7.62x54R for Imperial Russia during WWI.

ChiCom Type 67 belt fed mg

Czech M59 belt fed mg

Finnish M26 Lahti mag fed lmg
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 2:28:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 3:25:24 PM EDT
The improved PKM, the Pecheneg!
SV-98 bolt action sniper.
I have seen a Yugo M76 in .308 and 54r
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 7:37:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By booger-hooker:
I don't know about semi receivers but Military Gun Supply will be coming out with a semi DP-28 rifle.



I saw that on their web site. I am going to call them and ask about availability and price. What I really want is a receiver and Semi-only parts so I can build my own. Should be interesting as the origional is an open bolt FA.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:29:46 PM EDT
2595.00 plus shipping April or may delivery if you get signed up now.

DP 28 and others hopefully
Link Posted: 3/6/2006 7:17:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By einheit13:
2595.00 plus shipping April or may delivery if you get signed up now.

DP 28 and others hopefully



That's way too much when they are selling kits for 3-400. I just want the receiver and semi parts, looks like I will have to scrap that idea.
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