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Posted: 1/25/2006 4:52:59 PM EDT
They run about $120 and are typically in almost-new condition.

I took mine out last Sunday and just for the heck of it I shot it at our 12" gongs at 100 yards and I missed it once out of about 24 rounds. I was amazed...I can't hit the gongs we have at 25 yards with that much reliability....I love that hot little 7.62x25!

It seems the sights were actually zeroed at 100m because I didn't do any holdover to hit at 100 yards.

The muzzle blast is a very satisfying boom with more bass sound that makes the gun sound especially powerful.

The machining is well done and the parts fit together beautifully.

I really wish someone would make a modern 7.62x25 pistol.

I've even read of some people reloading the cases with saboted 55gr. .223 projectiles. Interesting.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:55:14 PM EDT
I wish I never would have sold mine
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:57:17 PM EDT
Its on my,ever growing,list!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:59:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 5:00:42 PM EDT by TheRedHorseman]
mine's a ton of fun but I cant seem to get that great of accuracy out of it, the barrel isnt in the greatest condition but it could also be the polish surplus I've been shooting it with. maybe I just need to try some commercial or start rolling my own

edit: the best part of that pistol is at indoor ranges where I can throw a softball sized fireball and make a bigger bang than the guys with .357 snubbie revolvers
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:00:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:00:29 PM EDT
its on my list, maybe at the end of the year. i need to apply for a pistol permit first, which is why i haven't gotten one yet. its not much work, but i'm busy/easily distracted.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:40:00 PM EDT
Just a tip,

If you guys buy one, it is a great idea to order an extra firing pin. Springfield sporters had them last time I checked. Some one told me that would be a good idea, I didnt believe them, sure enough I broke mine, ended up making one from drill rod, same for my brother in laws 52. Not worth the work buying an extra is prudent.

Excellent piece for historical reference, especially if you relish the HK/MG42 style lock up. the 52 uses rollers to accomplish lock up.

Well worth the money at that price.

Excells at shoothing the hot sub gun ammo in 7.62 x 25.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:55:32 PM EDT
Why do people have to write threads like this...now I want one.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:06:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MEDIC-0372:
Why do people have to write threads like this...now I want one.

I know,...........thats how I ended up buying a Makarov last weekend......................and I want another one this weekend!
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:11:31 PM EDT
I like mine
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:25:15 PM EDT
i have three, with plans to get one of the hard-chromed ones from classic arms.


god this 03FFL was a bad idea.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 8:53:39 PM EDT
I dont know why i never picked one up, There so cheap why not right. I did buy the rifle years ago and a helment for some reason i guess i'll buy the pistol now. McM
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:04:46 PM EDT
I have two of them. I would reccomend getting the aftermarket firing pin from makarov.com. It reduces the trigger pull and won't break like the OEM firing pins. The OEM firing pins only break if you dry fire it. Also the Hogue slip on grips make a huge difference. I wouldn't reccomend a CZ-52 without one.

I haven't shot mine too much. I have pitted bores and mine still shoot accurately. Even at 200 yards I have been suprised with very little bullet drop. I did test for penetration one time. I got 5 out of 5 shots on a 1x4 piece of wood at 75 yards. This was with the FNM HPs and the group was about 4-5" at the most.

Here's some of my CZ-52 gun porn with Brownell's Gun Kote...

www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=120521

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:21:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/25/2006 9:21:30 PM EDT by cnatra]
I've been meaning to snag one, too many other projects

so many guns so little ........
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:53:38 PM EDT
you need to find a tokarev pistol. much better than the cz
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:31:16 AM EDT
If you want one grab em quick.

6 months ago they were everywhere and $99 - I bought 2.

Recently they are selling out, Classic Arms doesnt have any. They are also going for $120 to $130 when you do find them. Im betting in about 6 more months they will dry up entirely.

Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:14:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By occaar:
you need to find a tokarev pistol. much better than the cz



The CZ-52 has an original safety that works, a stronger chamber that can handle hot loads, and is more accurate than the Tokarev. It's also 1/3 of the price. The CZ-52 also has aftermarket parts, match grade barrel's and conversion barrels to atleast two other calibers (9x19 and .22 RE). A CZ-52 is also more likely to double in value within the next two years.

Half the ammo out there the TT-33 isn't strong enought to shoot. It can't handle some of the hotter surplus ammo out there and it can't handle alot of the self defense 7.62x25 ammo that Reed's puts out. The TT-33 does have a better finish but I find it hard to say it's a better gun.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 2:58:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By occaar:
you need to find a tokarev pistol. much better than the cz



I agree, But they are completley different animals. I think I paid 89 with a holster and 2 mags for my cz in 2004. Tok's aren't exactly cheap.
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 3:55:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Xenogy:

Originally Posted By occaar:
you need to find a tokarev pistol. much better than the cz



The CZ-52 has an original safety that works, a stronger chamber that can handle hot loads, and is more accurate than the Tokarev. It's also 1/3 of the price. The CZ-52 also has aftermarket parts, match grade barrel's and conversion barrels to atleast two other calibers (9x19 and .22 RE). A CZ-52 is also more likely to double in value within the next two years.

Half the ammo out there the TT-33 isn't strong enought to shoot. It can't handle some of the hotter surplus ammo out there and it can't handle alot of the self defense 7.62x25 ammo that Reed's puts out. The TT-33 does have a better finish but I find it hard to say it's a better gun.



I totally agree. The vz52 was solely developed to shoot the hotter Czech 7.62x25 ammo. This ammo was originally developed for the Czech sub-guns, vz24 and vz26, which were also adopted in 1952. The original "bxn" ammo was made for the fore mentioned sub-gun is almost 15% hotter then the original Tokarev ammo.

If the Czech ammo was shot regularly through a standard TT30 or TT33, you will most likely harm the gun. The damage that may occur could be a stretched locking link, fatigued action spring, locking lug damage, excessive wear and mushrooming on metal surfaces.

BTW, I love my Vzor52 pistol. In fact, I bought mine 20 years ago, before they were even imported. Back then the bargain price for a 52 was $600! I paid a $700. Ouch....

wp
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:44:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 4:49:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 5:01:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 8:03:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By occaar:
you need to find a tokarev pistol. much better than the cz



Heres mine, both are Russian WW2 dated ones an import and the other is a bring back w/ papers.

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:25:51 AM EDT
It's on my list and I just bought a small supply of ammo for it because it's cheap at sportsmansguide.

Link Posted: 1/27/2006 6:46:34 AM EDT
I had one. It wasn't as accurate as my USP, ammo was more expensive than 9mm, mag changes were slow, and it's too big for what it does.

The only reason I would have kept it is to run those saboted 40gr .223 bullets out of it, but that would imply CC, which the size of the gun prohibits. So I sold it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:21:17 AM EDT
I have one of the rearsenaled blued ones ( I believe that the originals are parked) .

It looks like new, but the slide stop pin keeps walking out. It is really annoying...
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 9:42:42 AM EDT
You can't beat the price for these things.Lots of bang for your buck.

They dont have the most comfortable grip but for $89 who cares.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:36:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 10:39:46 AM EDT by Pave]
www.floridaammotraders.com/accessories.html#PIN52



US Made STAINLESS STEEL CZ52
Many CZ-52 pistols frequently break their firing pins. Replacing surplus firing pins is expensive at roughly $15-$20 apiece, when they are available. This is a ridiculous expense for a $200 pistol. Firing pins on a pistol should not break. Firing pins break on the CZ-52 as the nose work hardens with repeated dry-firing, leading to tip breakage. The original firing pins are made of a particularly brittle steel which is the root of the problem.
Our NEW pins are finely machined from pre-hardened number 416 stainless steel which has a rockwell hardness of rc29. They are designed to be TOUGH and DURABLE. Not too hard to be brittle and not too soft to be easily bent. These pins are a direct replacement of the original and do not require any modification to the pistol.

$20.00 each
Call or E-mail for Wholesale prices
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:08:11 AM EDT
I never cared for the grip angle of the CZ52. Shot one almost 10 years ago and have yet felt the need to buy one.

Got a nice little tokarev though.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 2:06:50 PM EDT
I've wanted a CZ-52 for years and now that I'm 21 when they're in stock, I have no money. When I have money, they're out of stock. Hopefully, I can still find one this summer after I get some cash saved up. Need to find an FFL at home though; the only one within a reasonable driving distance retired last year. Guess I could contact someone at the gunshow and have them hold one for me until the next month when I have the cash for it.

The only CZ-52 I've seen was an arsenal refinished (which just doesn't look as cool as the parkerized originals) at the same gunshow I got my AK. It didn't have a price tag, the vendor didn't remember what he wanted for it and couldn't be bothered to just name a price. Also wasn't interested in taking it out of the case to let me examine it and kept hassling passersby to buy his recoil springs for 1911 pistols. Fine, screw you.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 10:56:06 PM EDT
i wonder when aimis going to get some in?or heck anybody get any in soon...........
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:02:14 PM EDT
Somebody tell me more about the 9mm conversion.

Does it use the same mags?

How reliable is it?

Can the barrel be threaded for a can?

The only reason I would ever buy a CZ52 is to use as a 9mm suppressor host. I have no particular interest in the "history" of it or in adding 7.62x25 to my caliber selection.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:12:32 PM EDT
Regarding the Cz52 + TT33. I was under the impression that the TT33 was made for a lighter load of the 7.62x25 while the Cz52 was built to handle the high-velocity load that the PPSH was built for.
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 11:51:12 PM EDT
i love my CZ-52,...and my Russian PM,...both pistols are a must have for AK lovers,..its like peanut butter & jelly,..they just go together

heres my goodies:

Link Posted: 3/21/2006 12:40:47 AM EDT
My 52' was the first pistol I ever owned. Arsenal refinished in 74'. Great little shooter. I've had the problem with the slide stop pin working it's way out after a mag or two. I take it out back at night and fire into the side of an old shed we don't use. Awesome fire breather.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:30:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/21/2006 9:39:01 AM EDT by Xenogy]

Originally Posted By STG77:
Somebody tell me more about the 9mm conversion.

Does it use the same mags?

How reliable is it?

Can the barrel be threaded for a can?

The only reason I would ever buy a CZ52 is to use as a 9mm suppressor host. I have no particular interest in the "history" of it or in adding 7.62x25 to my caliber selection.




Thats interesting. The only reason I ever bought a CZ-52 was for the 7.62x25 that it shoots.

I think Federal stopped making the barrels. They were offering them in 7.62x25, 9mm, and 9mm Largo. I know they atleast still offer the 7.62x25 barrels.

Reeds ammo offers the .22 saboted barrels but they cost a bit more than I'm willing to pay, and the ammo is expensive. At this point you would be better off with an FN five seven.

When makarov.com was selling them, they offered threaded and non threaded. I'm not sure about the magazine compatability for 9mm. I never really looked into it. Although I have used 9mm snap caps in my CZ-52 and they seem to feed from the 7.62x25 mags just fine. I just stick to my CZ-75 for 9mm shooting.





Link Posted: 3/21/2006 9:36:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheDarkBleeding:
My 52' was the first pistol I ever owned. Arsenal refinished in 74'. Great little shooter. I've had the problem with the slide stop pin working it's way out after a mag or two. I take it out back at night and fire into the side of an old shed we don't use. Awesome fire breather.



Take the pin out, rough it up with a little sandpaper on the surfaces. Degrease the pin and the hole that it goes into. Apply red threadlock and insert pin. WECSOG way of doing it unless you have a pin staking tool. I also had one of my CZ-52s with the slide stop pin baking out. I threadlocked it and haven't had any problems since.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 2:48:35 PM EDT
I have a CZ52 sitting at my transfer dealer's shop waiting for me to get back to the land of the big PXI bought one as a Christmas present for a friend of mine a couple years ago and he says it is a little tack driver.
Link Posted: 3/21/2006 2:59:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hank69:
I have a CZ52 sitting at my transfer dealer's shop waiting for me to get back to the land of the big PX
I bought one as a Christmas present for a friend of mine a couple years ago and he says it is a little tack driver.



yeah when i was over i had about 8 firearms sitting at a gun shop in houston awaiting my return,...the guy was glad i made it home ok,...if only to get that safe back.

if you get a chance send me a Iraqi flag with the fuzzy crap around it,...i only have the little cheap ass one
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