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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:55:58 PM EDT
What is the difference between SAM 7 carbine and SAM 7 classic? The obvious difference is the price, the classic is almost double the price. Any input is welcomed.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 3:12:51 PM EDT
The carbine has a 90 degree gas block while the classic has a 45 degree gas block. Obviously the classic has the blonde wood furniture.

Those are the obvious differences. The reason for the price difference they only made a few hundred classics, and Arsenal of Bulgaria no long makes the parts for the classic, so there won't be any more of them.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 3:30:24 PM EDT
In addition to what dskeet said the differences between the two include.

Front sight base:
Carbine: Smaller AKM style
Classic: Larger AK47 style that accepts Type I "pigsticker" bayonet

Barrel:
Carbine: Thinner AKM style
Classic: Thicker AK47 style

Upper gas tube:
Carbine: Un-vented AKM style
Classic: Vented AK47 style

The sling attaches to the buttstock of the SA M7 carbine and to the lower handgaurd retainer. On the Classic it attaches to the side of the reciever and to gas block.

The SA M7 Carbine is really a Frankenstein AK as it has features found on the AK47(milled reciever), the AKM(all kinds of stuff) and the AK74(90 degree gas block).

The SA M7 Classic is a copy of the Type III AK47.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:27:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 7:03:16 PM EDT by BillC]
They made ban Classics and a few no ban classics. I love mine. Look around on EE or Gunbroker , gunsamerica sometimes they can be found
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 5:36:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cleis102:
In addition to what dskeet said the differences between the two include.

Front sight base:
Carbine: Smaller AKM style
Classic: Larger AK47 style that accepts Type I "pigsticker" bayonet

Barrel:
Carbine: Thinner AKM style
Classic: Thicker AK47 style

Upper gas tube:
Carbine: Un-vented AKM style
Classic: Vented AK47 style

The sling attaches to the buttstock of the SA M7 carbine and to the lower handgaurd retainer. On the Classic it attaches to the side of the reciever and to gas block.

The SA M7 Carbine is really a Frankenstein AK as it has features found on the AK47(milled reciever), the AKM(all kinds of stuff) and the AK74(90 degree gas block).

The SA M7 Classic is a copy of the Type III AK47.



So the Carbine is an AKM with a milled receiver? .....If there is such a thing?
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:47:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 1:25:30 AM EDT by Instante]
I am buying a classic on EE right now. AND my wife said that I can order another ak as a late x-mas present. I was thinking about getting the carbine to shoot and keep the classic unfired.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 5:47:35 AM EDT
Could your wife talk to mine?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:04:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 7:04:40 PM EDT by Instante]
Selectfire, send pics... interested in a trade?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:08:41 PM EDT
Is the stock the same?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 9:53:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 4:16:25 AM EDT
where or how does a guy get wood like this?.........



sweet!
Link Posted: 1/15/2006 8:55:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By redfisher:
where or how does a guy get wood like this?.........

img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/redfisher19/sam6.jpg

sweet!



If you ever find out...give me a shout, will you?

Bud
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 9:47:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/17/2006 9:50:09 PM EDT by Bachelor_of_Science]

Originally Posted By Cleis102:
In addition to what dskeet said the differences between the two include.

Front sight base:
Carbine: Smaller AKM style
Classic: Larger AK47 style that accepts Type I "pigsticker" bayonet

Barrel:
Carbine: Thinner AKM style
Classic: Thicker AK47 style

Upper gas tube:
Carbine: Un-vented AKM style
Classic: Vented AK47 style

The sling attaches to the buttstock of the SA M7 carbine and to the lower handgaurd retainer. On the Classic it attaches to the side of the reciever and to gas block.

The SA M7 Carbine is really a Frankenstein AK as it has features found on the AK47(milled reciever), the AKM(all kinds of stuff) and the AK74(90 degree gas block).

The SA M7 Classic is a copy of the Type III AK47.



The sight base on my SA M-7 Carbine is the same size as an AK-47. It's definitely not as small as the AKM variants.

Biggest difference? The Price.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 6:29:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bachelor_of_Science:
The sight base on my SA M-7 Carbine is the same size as an AK-47. It's definitely not as small as the AKM variants.

Biggest difference? The Price.



He's got it. I also had trouble getting any bayonet but the AK-74 style to fit the Carbine.

The front sight base has a "rounded" opening at the front where the cleaning rod head goes.

I tried fitting an East German AKM bayonet to the rifle, but it has a square fitting that butts up against this rounded opening for the cleaning rod and wouldn't lock in place.

For the money, I prefer the Carbine. It's a good basic milled AK that won't break the bank.

Link Posted: 1/21/2006 9:11:19 PM EDT
Well, I originally posted this because I was thinking of getting one or the other.........I just did it arf.com style and got both!

(pictured with a new vector too.)


Link Posted: 1/21/2006 10:46:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:17:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:18:53 PM EDT by Bachelor_of_Science]
I said it once and I'll say it again, I really hate that man!



Congratulations, Instante!

Bud

ETA: Is that another Vector underfolder? Or is that the one pictured with your Vector Classic and Polytech? Where'd you get your Arsenal "Classic?"
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 10:50:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bachelor_of_Science:

Is that another Vector underfolder? Or is that the one pictured with your Vector Classic and Polytech? Where'd you get your Arsenal "Classic?"



Hi Bud,

This is new Vector Underfolder, I jumped on it because it came with the ultimak system and it has MILLED struts! (all for $525.00)

Arsenal Classic and came from afr.com member "pieceofstink" off EE.
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