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Posted: 10/24/2003 2:04:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2003 2:05:48 PM EDT by krinkfreak]
Looks like the members are saying "piss off" we want our products from KVAR.....

www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=1738473fe50a0b253d60fb7b37c18b31&threadid=143282
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:26:31 PM EDT
Damn, I wish I could still post there. I'm sure I would be banned again with my first post.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:37:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:48:59 PM EDT
Krink,
If you're ever in AZ stop by, my wife makes yummy corned beef cooked in Guinness.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:55:34 PM EDT
too funny, and I find it strange that I sit here compelled to buy something from KVAR for some reason
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 2:55:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 3:23:14 PM EDT
Ken,

You never cease to amaze me with your photoshop talent! Kick Ass !!!!!

Innocent_Bystander,

ya gotta gimme some of that corned beef!!!! Looks Good!! My hat is off to the chef!!!

KF
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 3:26:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 3:32:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:20:16 PM EDT
LOL. Sounds good to me. potatos, cabbage and corned beef and cheese.

It's almost in the same class as soul food.
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 6:28:21 PM EDT
Gee, I just boght $300 worth of waffle mags from K-var. I wish that I would have known what evil and terrible people they were before yesterday. I wonder if I can get my money back, so I can go to joekeen and pay over 30% more for the same damn product.hacko.gif
Link Posted: 10/24/2003 10:41:59 PM EDT
Originally posted by REDSTAR
We aren't about telling people who or who they can buy from we just dont see a need to advertise their specials. especially when the special is a direct result of one of our sponsors receivng a big shipment of mags the other day. Where are all the people who spent $15 last week with Kvar? I bet you all feel happy. Or you guys who are buying them cheaper today- you can thank joe ken for that. His loss is your gain. That $1.50 you are saving per mag is coming out of his pocket. Well thats just business so it's OK. I'd say this great savings everyone is getting due to something joe ken has done should be enough to forgive him for past disgressions. Were it not for him you'd still be seeing those mags at $15 or more.


Gee, I don't boycott Sear's when they get a big shipment of Goodyear tires in and have a sale, because I bought them at NTB 2 weeks ago for $20 more a tire.

What a bunch of whinny fags. They didn't pay us to advertise, so no mention of them here, but any other supplier is OK, as long as it doesn't offend any paying advertiser.
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 5:30:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 9:34:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 4:44:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2003 4:45:21 PM EDT by AWStokes]
As you can see my swartz is bigger than yours....



"now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb"



Link Posted: 10/25/2003 10:23:55 PM EDT
I gotta go sign up over there. Where else can I become a genuine fake SEAL!! I no longer have to live in shame that I was only in the Army Signal Corp!! Plus I can tell all of the kidies over there about all of the thousand meter shots I made with my battlefield pick up Krink, while I was doing "wet work". I figure that anybody who is stupid enough to intentionally read that board would not have the brains to realize I was completely full of shit. Besides all I have to do is stick up for a couple of lousy vendors who can't produce a product nearly as fast as they produce credit card transactions, and the staff will back up all of my BS made up war stories, and probably even claim to have witnessed many of my imaginary exploits!

I have an even better idea, I will go into business. I will buy up all of the USA brand crapazines I can find for less than 10 bucks, pay to be a sponsor over there sell the crappy mags I bought claiming they are rare Colt "Patriotic" military issue only mags for twenty bucks each, then when I run out, just keep taking orders and paying my sponsorship fees! I could make a fortune, then if anybody ever tries to make me produce a product I can get the dot nutz staff to pretend to be lawyers and send out nasty emails with worse diction and grammer than I use myself!!

Or maybe better yet, I will pretend to be a Fake SEAL, who has stareted a business, become a sponsor, sell a bunch of crap that I don't have, and charge people a bunch of money for work I can't do, then when everybody comes looking for thier stuff, I can claim that there gear was needed by the Government to fight in Iraq, as long as BoyCunt is getting paid he will probably make up excuses for me, plus I will have the advantage of being being able to get top dollar for my nonexistant gear, because as long as I am paid up it would be unpatriotic and liberal to buy from anybody else, just to save ten or fifteen bucks per mag!
Link Posted: 10/25/2003 10:46:24 PM EDT
Funny, i remember a few years ago when the only people that even HAD bulgie waffle mags was K-VAR and a few others with just a couple laying around. They were 10.99 then and i bought a ton of them. Its funny how that site complains about companies pricing based on supply and demand while at the same time kissing Tapco's ass when they are selling $90 fal kits for $200.
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 2:11:19 AM EDT
(Best Rodney King voice) (ahem, cough) "Why caaaant we all jest getz along?"
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 4:34:57 AM EDT
I am a refugee from what you call the other board. I had to leave. It has gotten to a point where Fred is correct they really are a bunch of Fools. K-Var has been very, very good to me in the past. Great products, and fast shipments, more than I can say for Joeking. I am done with those Fools on the other board!
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 5:03:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 5:04:42 AM EDT
Red_Faction,

Congratulations on seeing the light, and welcome to the board.

What was your nick at the other board?

KF
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 5:21:50 AM EDT
Lets just say I was one of their oldest members. In time you will recognize me.
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 5:22:08 AM EDT
RF,

Welcome to the real AK Board.
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 5:32:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 6:44:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2003 6:56:23 PM EDT by Va_Dinger]
Funny how he recommends JoeKen! I remember the days on gunsnet when he was regarded about equal to Satan. At least once a week their was a new post about this Hesse receivers blowing up and his refusal to warranty them. Plus all the posts about his horrible costumer service. Then BOOM! He becomes a sponsor and all is forgiven. My god, now they are even recommending him and deleting complaints about him. What a joke! I've bought from Kvar several times with absolutely zero problems.
Link Posted: 10/26/2003 8:10:52 PM EDT
if they recommend a sponsor, or a comapny advertises with them......that is the one to stay far away from. if they bash a company, that is the one that is trustworth and honest.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 11:29:57 PM EDT

I love how he claims that doing business with KVAR takes a $1.50 per mag out of Joekens pocket!

Gee, if we buy enough from KVAR, Joeken will go under!

The only possibly explanation I can see for this is that Joeken really did import the massive number of mags they claim (Which I'm beginning to doubt, as its been a year of changing stories from them) and KVAR bought a bunch of them at the wholesale prices Joeken was offering... and then turned around and sold them cheap.

Which means, the "dirty dealing" KVAR did was to cut its margins.... but Joeken consented to sell KVAR the inventory-- if this is what happened-- and so Joeken was making a profit at that rate--- which means the $1.50 we're "stealing" from joeken is unnecessary profit-- eg, tehy were marking them up %100 or so!

A lot of supply has been imported and it drove down prices... big deal-- both companies are making money.

Oh, and Ilove how any positive mention of kvar is considered "advertising" from them on ak-47.net.... of course, all these people speaking positively of KVAR must be KVAR employees!

Even me, the guy who has only done business with them once, when I bought AK mags (for an AK I don't own!) at $15 a pop!

Oh, yeah, I'm such a shill... by their logic, KVAR ripped me off to the tune of $6 a mag! And yet, I'm a KVAR shill!

Fact of the matter is, I was happy to pay $15 a mag for them, I figure that was a decent deal, and I'd be happy to pay $9 a mag for them (though I haven't done so), as thats an even better deal.

IF Joeken sold mags to kvar wholesale, then they made money on the deal and they got no room to bitch.

What did they think KVAR was going to do-- just sit on them and keep them off the market?

AK-47.nets management is just flat out dishonest.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:09:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2003 1:48:44 PM EDT by sfcret]

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

The only possibly explanation I can see for this is that Joeken really did import the massive number of mags they claim (Which I'm beginning to doubt, as its been a year of changing stories from them) and KVAR bought a bunch of them at the wholesale prices Joeken was offering... and then turned around and sold them cheap.




I really doubt that JOKING imports anything, or even maintains a inventory.....I got a feeling they're just a couple of guys in some run down trailer, that charge CC, and then look for the magazines to buy, or orders the stuff from other vendors. if they where a legit business like k-var they would ship fast as they would have the inventory already.

I got a feeling one day, customers aren't even going to get anything from them, as it now takes them months to ship.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:21:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DonGalt:

I love how he claims that doing business with KVAR takes a $1.50 per mag out of Joekens pocket!

Gee, if we buy enough from KVAR, Joeken will go under!

The only possibly explanation I can see for this is that Joeken really did import the massive number of mags they claim (Which I'm beginning to doubt, as its been a year of changing stories from them) and KVAR bought a bunch of them at the wholesale prices Joeken was offering... and then turned around and sold them cheap.

Which means, the "dirty dealing" KVAR did was to cut its margins.... but Joeken consented to sell KVAR the inventory-- if this is what happened-- and so Joeken was making a profit at that rate--- which means the $1.50 we're "stealing" from joeken is unnecessary profit-- eg, tehy were marking them up %100 or so!

A lot of supply has been imported and it drove down prices... big deal-- both companies are making money.

Oh, and Ilove how any positive mention of kvar is considered "advertising" from them on ak-47.net.... of course, all these people speaking positively of KVAR must be KVAR employees!

Even me, the guy who has only done business with them once, when I bought AK mags (for an AK I don't own!) at $15 a pop!

Oh, yeah, I'm such a shill... by their logic, KVAR ripped me off to the tune of $6 a mag! And yet, I'm a KVAR shill!

Fact of the matter is, I was happy to pay $15 a mag for them, I figure that was a decent deal, and I'd be happy to pay $9 a mag for them (though I haven't done so), as thats an even better deal.

IF Joeken sold mags to kvar wholesale, then they made money on the deal and they got no room to bitch.

What did they think KVAR was going to do-- just sit on them and keep them off the market?

AK-47.nets management is just flat out dishonest.




It's worth a shot .
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:42:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sfcret:
...as it now takes them months to ship.


I ordered waffles from joeken b4 the kavar sale and got them approx 6 days later.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:11:33 PM EDT
I waited 6 weeks for JoeKen to produce waffle mags and got nothing, so I cancelled my order. There were some guys at .nutz who had placed orders with JoeKen for waffle mags in January.

JoeKen is a big ponzi scheme. They have no operating capitol so they use their customer's money. When they have enough orders (capitol) then they place an order with their supplier.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 11:28:52 PM EDT

I really don't think Joeken is a ponzi scheme... but they are not in good company with dotnutz. The problem is, its difficult to tell whether Joeken put dotnutz up to attacking anyone who mentions kvar or boycunts inherent insecurity and paranoia caused it.

Either way, Joeken gets painted with that bit of unprofessionalism.

I think they are a couple honest guys who have trouble meeting their commitments sometimes... probably half the time due to disorganization and the other half of the time due to things outside their control (like import problems). Hell, if they'd just said nothing until they got the mags imported, their rep would be mutch better.
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