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Posted: 10/10/2003 6:04:42 AM EDT

I saw a show on discovery it showed a guy from some tribe in aferica cleaning his ak for a war with another tribe with tree leafs an animal fat for grease holly s#$% it worked i need one. what is the best one to get for home defense and what country any info would help i have built meny home defense toys. and should learn fast so not to be to much of a bug thanks

Posted: 10/10/2003 6:32:35 AM EDT

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Welcome to the Dark Side!There are many good AKs on the market these days,depending on how much you want to spend.For the money,it's hard to beat the Romanian SAR1.Some SAR1's are shipped with a canted front sight base and or a canted gas block,try to hand pick one if you can.If you do end up with a canted AK,it can be fixed.Ammo and mags are readily avaliable and Russian Optics are Great.Good luck,check out the forums.There is alot of good helpful info in the sub catagories [Romanian,Chineese,Egyptian...]

Posted: 10/10/2003 6:58:55 AM EDT

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I'd shop around first before picking up an inexpensive SAR1. You will notice the difference right away between a SAR and a decent AK. Im not saying that the SAR is bad but you can buy a better AK for a little more cash and you will be happy. :)

As far a cleaning and oiling an AK with animal fat....yuck!!! No wonder there are so many flies, you need insect repelent for your AK too!

Posted: 10/10/2003 7:09:23 AM EDT

[#3]

You can spend $600 on a prettier and smoother AK but it will not shoot much better than a $300 SAR which you can always sell for little loss if you upgrade later. SAR QC gets better every year, make sure the side rail sight mount is very close to parallel to the bore as well.
Just pick a caliber.

Posted: 10/10/2003 7:10:14 AM EDT

[#4]

After oiling with Animal fat,you can just imagine the retched smell after going through a couple mags!

Posted: 10/10/2003 7:35:55 AM EDT

[#5]

THE SKY IS FALLING!

Seriously, I will say it AGAIN. SARs are now going to have crappy Dragunov style stocks. If you do not have one, GET AN SAR-1 AND SAR-2 NOW!

Posted: 10/10/2003 7:53:04 AM EDT

[#6]

I would guess,now that they are leaving the drag stocks that there are no US parts.Can anyone confirm this?

Posted: 10/10/2003 11:12:13 AM EDT

[#7]

Century is also starting to ship their CETMEs with cut and recrowned muzzles instead of their brakes. I suspect a strong concern about future BATF interpretation is at play more than minor cost variances in configuration parts.

Posted: 10/10/2003 12:03:09 PM EDT

[#8]

After oiling with Animal fat,you can just imagine the retched smell after going through a couple mags!

Oh, I dont know, it might smell like a batch of McDonalds french fries!

Posted: 10/10/2003 12:52:00 PM EDT

[#9]

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Century is also starting to ship their CETMEs with cut and recrowned muzzles instead of their brakes. I suspect a strong concern about future BATF interpretation is at play more than minor cost variances in configuration parts.

No I bet they got tired of major whole salers sending loads of inventory back because the pins from the muzzle brakes were protruding into the barrel. So now they reworked them and are calling them new.

I almost bought a Cetme till I noticed that little problem I described above. Bought a Sar1 instead. Couldn't be more happy! Have added all sorts of fun stuff to it.

Posted: 10/10/2003 3:29:00 PM EDT

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i would get an sar-1 from aim surplus, its 309 dollars + 10 dollars for hand select. i think this would be a good starter ak.

Posted: 10/10/2003 3:30:15 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
THE SKY IS FALLING!

Seriously, I will say it AGAIN. SARs are now going to have crappy Dragunov style stocks. If you do not have one, GET AN SAR-1 AND SAR-2 NOW!

i agree with you aimless, it does indeed seem to be falling.

Posted: 10/10/2003 3:45:59 PM EDT

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Quoted:
You can spend $600 on a prettier and smoother AK but it will not shoot much better than a $300 SAR which you can always sell for little loss if you upgrade later. SAR QC gets better every year, make sure the side rail sight mount is very close to parallel to the bore as well.
Just pick a caliber.

Sight mount? Is that what that thing is? I had been thinking about starting a thread on that. Is there a website/pics somewhere of what sights attach to it and how?

Posted: 10/10/2003 5:28:18 PM EDT

[#13]

Spend some time here and learn all you can about the different weapons while keeping your eyes open to god deals.

Quoted:
I'd shop around first...

My advice too.

I picked up a nice Hungarian SA 85M at the last big Portland show for $410, came with four 30 round mags.

Best regards, T

Posted: 10/11/2003 6:37:59 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Quoted:
You can spend $600 on a prettier and smoother AK but it will not shoot much better than a $300 SAR which you can always sell for little loss if you upgrade later. SAR QC gets better every year, make sure the side rail sight mount is very close to parallel to the bore as well.
Just pick a caliber.

Sight mount? Is that what that thing is? I had been thinking about starting a thread on that. Is there a website/pics somewhere of what sights attach to it and how?

www.freedomoptics.com/Comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp Slide the brackets over, throw the clamp lever.

Posted: 10/11/2003 6:52:31 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Century is also starting to ship their CETMEs with cut and recrowned muzzles instead of their brakes. I suspect a strong concern about future BATF interpretation is at play more than minor cost variances in configuration parts.

They got in trouble because the brakes they had were 22mm and thus a grenade launcher as defined by the 94 awb.

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