Yeah, right. The 50 rd Joeking mags are a $50.00 mag made from gluing two mags together. Not my idea of a deal. And if you ever think of ordering anything from Joeken don't ever plan on getiing it. Once again their 30 rd Bulgarian mags have mysteriously been delayed in shipment even though they supposedly got into the U.S. on 08-18-2003 and they still haven't received them? It doesn't take two months to ship a truck load of mags from New York to Winslow, Arizona. I can drive it in 3 days. I have heard of very few people receiving anything that they have ordered from those clowns. On the .net site they edit any complaints about these idiots and they have all these "workers" posting crap about it's there new website ordering system, or the item will ship out tomorrow or "oops we sent it to the wrong address"..This Joeker has more excuses than GG I think....Hmmm..GG disappeared off the end of the earth shortly after Joeken showed up..I wonder if he packed up the homestead and moved West to Winslow, AZ from Harveyville, KS.