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AOANCullen Joined Mar 2014 Posts 127 EE 100% (12) IA, USA	Posted: 4/7/2015 4:56:16 AM EDT Anyone here use non detergent oil for lubricating their aks? thinking of switching to 30W non detergent motor oil, wanting to know if anyone already uses something similar to this

seej333 Joined Feb 2013 Posts 495 EE 100% (11) WA, USA	Posted: 4/7/2015 9:57:17 AM EDT [#1] I dont myself, a friend of mine only uses motor oil on his rifles. He has for years with good results. Im not sure what weight/viscosity.

KILLERB6 Many talk of war; few buckle armor. Joined Jan 2002 Posts 21083 EE 100% (6) AFG	Posted: 4/7/2015 10:44:00 AM EDT [#2] A lot of people use motor oil since it is inexpensive and it works well enough in the boundary layer category but performs poorly in the other desirable areas such as resistance to corrosion and oxidation and it contains toxic substances. ATF (not that ATF, Automatic Transmission Fluid) is actually better than motor oil but toxic as well.
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Dragynn the gray rider Joined Jan 2012 Posts 6482 EE 100% (91) TX, USA	Posted: 4/7/2015 3:20:31 PM EDT [#3] Quote History Originally Posted By KILLERB6: ATF (not that ATF, Automatic Transmission Fluid) is actually better than motor oil but toxic as well. View Quote +100, FAR better than motor oil, this is what I use on all my rifles.
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Pumpkinheaver Joined Jan 2008 Posts 6419 EE 0% (0) MO, USA	Posted: 7/4/2015 6:02:54 PM EDT [#4] I use synthetic 20W-50 on all of my guns. Works great.

fr3d Joined May 2007 Posts 1470 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 7/4/2015 10:27:09 PM EDT [#5] A bunch of the AKs I confiscated in Iraq smelled of used motor oil (and body odor).

Colt653 Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Joined Feb 2001 Posts 12321 EE 100% (23) USA	Posted: 7/5/2015 12:34:17 PM EDT [Last Edit: Colt653] [#6] I've been using MOBIL 1 5w30 synthetic for about 15 years It works better than CLP and is cheaper I shoot a lot, and it seemed like a waste of money buying the big bottles of CLP....even at wholesale/dealer prices .
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Cuca Joined Jun 2014 Posts 79 EE 0% (0) NC, USA	Posted: 7/5/2015 5:55:32 PM EDT [#7] For those of you using ATF, are you using 100% AFT or mixing with something else? If I recall ATF has an unpleasant smell.

CajunCanuck Joined Jan 2014 Posts 11 EE 100% (1) LA, USA	Posted: 7/7/2015 5:10:54 PM EDT [#8] Another vote for Mobil 1 5W30.....for all my lubing needs.....never a problem, and cleans up easy....

Gunowner99 Member Joined Jan 2014 Posts 1016 EE 100% (1) PA, USA	Posted: 7/8/2015 6:15:57 PM EDT [#9] Yup, that works and so does some wheel bearing grease.

Pumpkinheaver Joined Jan 2008 Posts 6537 EE 0% (0) MO, USA	Posted: 7/19/2015 1:22:06 AM EDT [#10] I use grease in summer and Motor oil in winter on my AKs.

TJRoush Psalm 91 Joined Nov 2008 Posts 2699 EE 100% (49) OH, USA	Posted: 7/29/2015 11:11:04 PM EDT [#11] Quote History Originally Posted By Pumpkinheaver: I use grease in summer and Motor oil in winter on my AKs. View Quote Yup...over 40deg its grease...oil below that.

mojo7 Member Joined Feb 2003 Posts 1242 EE 100% (99) USA	Posted: 2/4/2016 9:06:08 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By Derek45: I've been using MOBIL 1 5w30 synthetic for about 15 years It works better than CLP and is cheaper I shoot a lot, and it seemed like a waste of money buying the big bottles of CLP....even at wholesale/dealer prices . View Quote Good advice. Learned something new today.
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freg Joined Dec 2012 Posts 8 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 3/13/2016 7:54:34 PM EDT [#13] Quote History Originally Posted By CajunCanuck: Another vote for Mobil 1 5W30.....for all my lubing needs.....never a problem, and cleans up easy.... View Quote same here, except straight 30 works like a champ

wormraper Joined May 2017 Posts 216 EE 100% (15) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/28/2017 10:00:16 PM EDT [#14] I don't know if the AK is any different than any other rifle, but I've been using Mobil 1 or Royal Purple fully synth 5w30 motor oil on ALL my guns for like 2 + decades. Works like a charm

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AtotheR Joined Mar 2015 Posts 325 EE 100% (7) MO, USA	Posted: 12/17/2017 12:41:17 AM EDT [#16] My Romanian Guard kits were loaded with grease when I first got them. PITA to clean off but they really dont need that much cleaning with regular use.

blackghost Joined Apr 2003 Posts 2400 EE 100% (75) NY, USA	Posted: 1/31/2018 12:27:00 AM EDT [#17] High temp grease in my gun cleaning kit for when I strip and clean. My SHTF kit has a little squeeze bottle of motor oil in it that I can squirt into the action to douche out grit and debris in a pinch, plus it's a good lube anyway.

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Posted: 3/19/2018 1:09:18 AM EDT

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I've used motor oil before but I dislike that after starting to use LUCAS white lithium grease from home depot. I've started to use it on everything. AR barrel nuts for antiseize and populating AK barrels. Just a light coating on the wear points of the bcg and cycle the action to get everything greased evenly before shooting.

1 tube of white lithium will last you years.

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Posted: 7/23/2019 8:58:10 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By TJRoush:
Yup...over 40deg its grease...oil below that.

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Originally Posted By Pumpkinheaver:
I use grease in summer and Motor oil in winter on my AKs.

Yup...over 40deg its grease...oil below that.

Ived used grease in 5 degrees F with no issues

America-first Tired of all the bullshit Joined Oct 2005 Posts 96494 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 11/10/2019 7:21:26 PM EDT [#20] TW25B grease on my AKs.
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mo_mauser Joined Aug 2012 Posts 1014 EE 100% (27) GA, USA	Posted: 2/9/2020 1:37:03 PM EDT [#21] Wheel bearing grease user here. I have used white lithium grease in a pinch without issue.

rgrprib Casual Hero / Tennessee Squire Joined Oct 2002 Posts 2514 EE 100% (14) MN, USA	Posted: 2/9/2020 1:41:17 PM EDT [#22] I too use Mobile 1
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mr_h Member Joined Dec 2001 Posts 12168 EE 100% (495) AZ, USA	Posted: 7/13/2021 6:23:37 PM EDT [#23] i've always used grease on my AK's but since i got tired of cleaning that crap out with the suppressor use, i'm gonna try mobil1. i use it on my AR's with great success and its easy to clean.

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Posted: 7/13/2021 6:37:31 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By TJRoush:

Yup...over 40deg its grease...oil below that.

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Originally Posted By Pumpkinheaver:
I use grease in summer and Motor oil in winter on my AKs.

Yup...over 40deg its grease...oil below that.

Why not use a grease with an appropriate temperature range? I've used grease to -18F.

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Posted: 10/8/2021 11:11:37 PM EDT

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I dont have an AK at the moment( But hopefully will fix that soon), but I use a combo of MOBIL 1 5w30 synthetic mixed with just enough ATF mixed in to make it red. When i need to use grease, i use some Lucas Red and tacky. Tube cost less then $5 and will last the guns i have most of my life. So for about $20, i have enough lube for all my guns for life no matter the situation.

Did i mention i am a cheap bastard?